Day of rest exceptions in Judaism

[Rachie]

This will be short. I was wondering in the Bible the Old Testatment/Torah we are commanded to rest on the day of rest. Christians still go by that law in the large. However, I am tending to thinking in Judaism they may have some exceptions to this rule. For me for example I am diagnosed with anorexia and sometimes have fell into situation where I have needed to buy some grocies on the day of rest. I have quite a number of health issues. I also have an allergy to dust mites, bug bugss and need to shake my bed everyday. Now in the time of the Bible these allergy didn't exist and many more conditions so I am thinking Jewish law have captured this and made some exceptions.

This could help this issue for Christians.

 

[Rachie]

I have discussed this with my rector at church.

They said that in Christanity Jesus was about healing and miracles. Today our expectation should be that anything that helps us to heal is ok to do on the day of rest for conditions that did not exist when the Bible was written.

So for me to obtain food where I need to, yes.
A person suffers from depression and finds gardening helpful, so yes as well.
Your in a crisis mentally and need time out for therapy for autism, yes as well.

It would be interesting to find out if modern Judaism has captured these exceptions.

 

[Rachie]

Thank you for posting Yeshuasdaughter that was very interesting and I learnt a lot.

Today going to church I dropped a rubbish bag in a commual pathway and it was too much to my eye to leave it like that. I did my preparation for cleaning yesterday and so a lot of the cleaning stuff was highly used. I couldn't leave it like that for everyone else. I thought just to leave it for everyone is not showing things in the best light. It wasn't my housework but it seemed like an emergency unplanned one as well.

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[Kevin L.]

As a Jew and an RN, it is permissible to make exceptions for Jewish law if health and safety are issues.

Garbage can be a health hazard. Also, pork heart valves can be used to repair a defect in someone's heart. It isn't considered a violation of the Sabbath to call an ambulance if someone is having chest pain.

Judaism is a religion for the living, and my personal take on this subject is that God won't hold a grudge against someone for doing the right thing, as we should assume that God is reasonable.

If God is unreasonable, then we're all screwed anyway and all of the religious belief in the world doesn't make a difference.

There is a difference between sincere religious practice and an obsessive fear of God's wrath for being less than perfect.

Sincere religious belief should not be a side-effect of obsessive compulsive disorder and/or toxic perfectionism.

 

[Rachie]

As a Jew and an RN, it is permissible to make exceptions for Jewish law if health and safety are issues.

Garbage can be a health hazard. Also, pork heart valves can be used to repair a defect in someone's heart. It isn't considered a violation of the Sabbath to call an ambulance if someone is having chest pain.

Judaism is a religion for the living, and my personal take on this subject is that God won't hold a grudge against someone for doing the right thing, as we should assume that God is reasonable.

If God is unreasonable, then we're all screwed anyway and all of the religious belief in the world doesn't make a difference.

There is a difference between sincere religious practice and an obsessive fear of God's wrath for being less than perfect.

Sincere religious belief should not be a side-effect of obsessive compulsive disorder and/or toxic perfectionism.

This reply is perfection again to me so thank you for posting. There are Christians today who are still holding onto everything and have no idea and the health and safety update. I have even been in a mess about it recently and didn't to. I was wondering though what is the actual law book name the rule came from like Bible Genesis Chapter verse. Or if you know the book or journal/source that is fine to.

I was coming up with this thinking that me using shops was encouraging to not rest or attend church and I had no judgement for them. After talking to me dad today having taken in already about the health aspect expanded further and realised that some people have to work on the Sabbath and to feed their family or just them and if they didn't lose the job and health would deline in many potential ways. Afer thinking that I will never have thought again about encouraging another one whoever they are. Too much pain.

 

[Rachie]

5 minutes away from me on foot is a synagogue. I have called them today to speak to a Rabbi. It has beem a close knit community for such a long time. I have had Jewish lecturers in the past. Went to a small college turned university. Had learned people with modern day views. Was taught for some modules by emient Dr Melissa Raphael who gave so me so much grace and had hope they all did and from Christians to Hindu's Theodre Raphael to Nigel Scotland good time pity couldnt stay more with travel to and fro from family home. Then health challenges soon after stopped. Lets not go there.

I feel Melissa may have worked her way out around being a woman who is Jewish descendancy had interesting views.

They toss books out like cannons all of them.

Anyway I think may go like this I get the source and if its private or good idea from Rabbi and if not be shared on internet I will do not so.

I trusted the source straight away but if someone else asks me then I can tell it is in Rabbinic journals the Talmud something to point to to show the changes.

 

[Kevin L.]

If you have anorexia, that is a medical issue, and not a spiritual problem to be resolved by religion.

Every illness has a spiritual dimension to it, but this doesn' mean that we use exorcism to treat schizophrenia.

If you are anorexic, see a physician and seek care while you receive spiritual care from the rabbi.

Anorexia has a complicated etiology that requires a lot of nonjudgmental care (by clinicians who really understand the disease), medications, and--perhaps--distancing yourself from your family (depending upon the findings of your caregivers), as my experience has told me that family dynamics about control, fear, judgment, emotional abuse, and so forth play into anorexia.

Anorexia is the deadliest psychological illness, so please get help.

 

[Rachie]

Thank you very much for your post Kevin L it was helpful.

 

[Rachie]

I wanted to speak to the Rabbi to find the source for the modern Jewish law. It is not a pastoral nature I am a Christian and have help from my rector at church.

So I would wrap this up quite obvious found in law. To be concluded tomrorrow by me.
sticth this up good about Judiac law.
This here enough references to food safety and rest modern day laws.
can just use the find.
https://shulchanaruchharav.com/halacha/chapter-1-the-obligation-to-guard-ones-health-and-physical-safety/

Also then references to
Poskim are Jewish legal scholars who apply halakha, or Jewish law, to cases where previous authorities are unclear. The word "poskim" is the plural of the word "posek".

What do poskim do?

Determine how to apply halakha to cases where there is no clear precedent
Provide guidance on how to make halachic decisions
Explain how Torah principles apply to everyday life
What is halakha?
The Jewish religious laws that come from the written and Oral Torah

Often translated as "Jewish law", but it can also mean "the way to behave" or "the way of walking"

If my back was ok would stich it up today.

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[Rachie]

This has cleared me up and swept up any cobwebs.
No scripture will be given by me given. I have just got of the phone and freshly in mind as we speaking me to Rabbi 6 today my answers was. We didn't have much time.

It came down to it which is it from we agreed. Health and Safety from the Rabbi. There are exceptions it is needs to be.

Judiasm 10 Commandments it is based rules. Then also a different sources none taking away from anothers but there is Rabbinic journals that formed and also the Talmud and no scriptures is given. That is our answer is life at risk and safety on the Sabbath you may indeed do what you to save your life in Judaism.

The spirit of the law

Now Christanity I love. I sense some people are not aware of any exceptions to the Commandment of rest.

The internet takes my time sometimes and sometimes you wish you never started something.

We exchanged emails.
Peace