Diet Coke Versus Regular Coke (Coca Cola)

[Jonn]

Don't care much for coke zero or diet coke ill stick with Pepsi max,sweetners and all

I am precisely the same.

 

[Jonn]

I am and proud of it ha ha

You are:

Spoiler

 

[Judge]

For years I was an absolute snob about favoring Coke. But now I'll enjoy either Coke or Pepsi without a thought, other than I choose in general to avoid all sodas.

Trying to become much more observant over potentially addictive foods and drinks.

 

[Jonn]

Trying to become much more observant over potentially addictive foods and drinks.

I am struggling badly with addiction of unhealthy food and drink, at moment, but I am working on it.

 

[vergil96]

Foods produced specifically for the Vegan fashion cost a fortune

They do and are they really worth the price or is it just a question of high demand and low supply? The price is often sky high and the ingredients aren't good other than being animal product free.

 

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They do and are they really worth the price or is it just a question of high demand and low supply?

It's simply basic economics, a product is only worth what people are willing to pay for it. I struggle to understand how some companies manage to stay in business but fools and their money are soon parted.

If you read the nutritional information on the packaging you'll see that as far as remaining healthy is concerned trying to be vegan is a very expensive lifestyle and many have to use protein and other supplements to replace what's missing in their lives.

A lot of the marketing is a farce too, a lot of companies simply lie about what's in their products and what benefits their products supposedly offer.

Food and drink reviews, taste tests, buying guides and advice | CHOICE

 

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Fashion is another huge influence on the foods we eat too, and food producers greatly influence and even create these fashions in order to create demand for their own products. A good example of this at the moment is Wagyu beef. It's worth a fortune and the thought of eating it makes me feel ill. It's the way I was brought up, I love a good steak but it's the meat part I like, eating that much fat is just self inflicted heart disease. Even on a nice grass fed steak I never eat the fat.

That's a sort of cultural perception in Australia and it's reflected in a lot of our foods. Americans notice the difference in our bacon straight away when they come here. Our bacon is cut differently, more meat and less fat. Personally what I always buy is what we call Short Cut Bacon where I'm only getting the meaty big muscle of the bacon and the narrower fatty end has been cut off.

 

[vergil96]

A lot of the marketing is a farce too, a lot of companies simply lie about what's in their products and what benefits their products supposedly offer.

Do you think there are animal ingredients in vegan products after all?

For sure vegan diet isn't about health, but animal rights. A supermarket vegan burger isn't any healthier than a supermarket meat burger. They're both junk food and the vegan one has a lot of saturated fats too. And lots of poor quality oil.

many have to use protein and other supplements to replace what's missing in their lives.

Definitely protein, iron, calcium and vitamin B supplements.

They do and are they really worth the price or is it just a question of high demand and low supply? The price is often sky high and the ingredients aren't good other than being animal product free.

I thought legumes are cheap compared to meat, it turns out a burger made of a large can of lentils is more expensive than made of meat even though the ingredients are cheaper. I remember from chilhood that lentil filling in dumplings was a cheaper and more available alternative to meat. There were beans too. The available meat can be bad quality, but legumes are kind of always there and always palatable. My grandma uses legumes when cooking for practical reasons like that. Anyway, 20+ years back small town perspective... I like legumes, lentil filling and so on, I include them in my diet, but they used to be "the cheaper and more available" thing. So I'm puzzled by the prices.

 

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Do you think there are animal ingredients in vegan products after all?

In a lot of them, yes, absolutely. The link I included above is to Choice Magazine, an Aussie institution that carries out all sorts of tests on all these products and tells the truth about them, Choice has been doing this for around 50 years now and a lot of their findings are then followed up on by the Australian Commerce and Consumer Commission.

They pull companies up all the time for false advertising and it's products claiming to be vegan that mostly top the list.

 

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I thought legumes are cheap compared to meat, it turns out a burger made of a large can of lentils is more expensive than made of meat even though the ingredients are cheaper. I remember from chilhood that lentil filling in dumplings was a cheaper and more available alternative to meat. There were beans too. The available meat can be bad quality, but legumes are kind of always there and always palatable. My grandma uses legumes when cooking for practical reasons like that. Anyway, 20+ years back small town perspective... I like legumes, lentil filling and so on, I include them in my diet, but they used to be "the cheaper and more available" thing. So I'm puzzled by the prices.

This is true in my world too, and a lot of it has to do with international trade. When I was a kid we used to eat a lot of lamb. Back then Australia was the world's largest producer of wool and a byproduct of that was cheap meat. In the 90s Australian Lamb became popular in other countries, sales took off and it's a massive export market these days. When this happened the price of lamb went up, and up, and up some more. Lamb has been priced out of my budget since around the year 2000, it's not that I can't afford it, it's that I refuse to pay it. The amount of times I've eaten lamb in the last 20 years can be counted on one hand.

I'm not paying $35/kilo for poor man's food, especially when I can get nice grass fed rump for $20/kilo.

 

[vergil96]

Legumes are still quite cheap, they just suddlenly become a couple of times more expensive once they are packaged as a vegan buger. Home made it would still be cheap. 500g of dry lentils costs $1. And comparable quality beef burgers (from a supermarket) cost half the price of a vegan burger or even less.

 

[vergil96]

A good example of this at the moment is Wagyu beef. It's worth a fortune and the thought of eating it makes me feel ill. It's the way I was brought up, I love a good steak but it's the meat part I like, eating that much fat is just self inflicted heart disease. Even on a nice grass fed steak I never eat the fat.

Wagyu beef seems like something for connaiseurs. I have eaten beef with high murmuring once or twice, although not as exclusive as Wagyu, and I didn't like it, it seems for connaiseurs, like clams and edible snails and frogs. No doubt they're difficult to prepare, difficult to obtain and some people enjoy eating them. But not my cup of tea.

I struggle to understand how some companies manage to stay in business but fools and their money are soon parted.

Fashion and marketing

 

[Outsider]

There are sugar free soft drinks also, which are not sugary, but which are artificially sweetened.

It is true, but they are not always in my city's stores (I live in New York City). When I have an opportunity I buy Canada Dry, it doesn't contain sugar or sweeteners.