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Do people know that you are on the spectrum?

Do people know that you are on the spectrum?

  • Yes -- I have told people

    Votes: 13 38.2%
  • It depends on the people

    Votes: 20 58.8%
  • No -- Never will

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • Total voters
    34
Mentioned it to someone and their reply was: "Oh, sure the meds will fix it"

That's appalling. :eek:

And also really ill-informed. The general public still needs a lot of educating around things like neurodiversity, mental/emotional health, LGBTIQ+ etc.

Some are more educable than others. And the ones that shout the loudest generally know the least (see also Dunning-Kruger Effect).

As I get older, things go back further in the rear-vision mirror and a bigger picture may start to strike me. One of those resulting thoughts was how much people who are different are often deeply hurt, by stupid shallow things uninformed people say, typically without having given it much thought. And that's because of the shame and the emotional baggage many of us carried especially when young, and may still carry. And also because we tend to overestimate the people who are saying this kind of shiitake to us, especially when we're young.

But those people are just - you know, so much smaller than your reaction to them, if that makes any sense. And I mean this as a perspective exercise, not to demonise or other the ignorant. And then you realise that it's a bit like running away from a midge, in a way.


One close friend knows. Told no-one else. No-one at my place of work, not even family. People's view in general, specially here, are that you could just get medication. Autism is mostly perceived as only the persons with Down, here.
And then there is also, shame and that one needs to open up to someone first..

Yeah, isn't it funny: The "defect" is actually in the general thinking, not in an Aspie who is cast incorrectly as defective. Typical projection psychology, when you think about it.

Here's something funny to cheer people up, if anyone could use it.

Socrates through Time
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from the wonderful existentialcomics.com/
 
All my family / Reel friends and people around (incl new ones) me knows all my diagnosis and have all accepted them all and me as i am.
 
I've gone through a few different attitudes about telling people since I was diagnosed 4 years ago.

At first, I considered it a stigma. I told a few people who were close to me - my wife and a few close friends.

Then I worried about what would happen if my bosses found out. I had a sleepless night worrying that they would consider me damaged and fire me (spoiler: they didn't. I was just spiraling in my head). So, rather than worry about that every night, I "ripped the band-aid off" and told my bosses the next day.

I didn't want any of my coworkers knowing, because I still considered it a stigma. I didn't want people looking at me funny, and I don't want to be stereotyped.

Now, I think I've accepted and internalized it as just one of my traits out of many. I tell people that I work closely with at church or work, because I think it may help with communications. (E.g., I tell people that I probably won't get any subtle hints and that direct communication is best).

I do try to *not* tell people just to tell them. That is, I try to make sure there's a practical purpose behind telling people, so that I'm not just trying to "make it about me." I kind of look forward to the time when everyone knows, so I don't have to think about it.
 
Yes but i didn't have to tell them. A lot more people know about your condition than you think do.
 
The main problem is as some have already noted, people do not know what it is you are telling them, as autism is so poorly understood, arguably even for those who have it, we often may struggle to explain it or how it shows itself.

So, no, I don't usually mention it, though I did try to allude to high autistic traits or Aspergers and some level of dyspraxia affecting me, when I had to be in hospital recently, partly I was afraid I may fall off the operating table or something, so clumsy... but as usual, I was mainly not understood at all, probably assumptions made. They told me a person who helps with Learning disabilities would visit me on the ward :eek:. But no one did. My partner said they will bring you wax crayons and a colouring book. But they didn't...
 
As i just recently (last year ) startet to accept and research my autism, i also just recently told some of my friends. One didnt belive me at first, the second one didnt know what autism was and the third just didnt respond. Most of the people i have a lot of contact wiht already know, because my mom has said it to them.
 
I have told friends and family and I have told a few trusted coworkers over the years. It’s not something I share lightly though.
 
Everyone around me knows. I'm pretty, um, blatant about it.
My family is highly religious and firmly believes that I am possessed. No joke. They believe this.
My boss and coworkers are very accepting and weren't surprised in the least. A few actually said, yeah, we figured that.
I'm not good at masking, I can't. so I figure I may as well go with it.
 
Just jumping in to say, if they believe you are possessed they probably also believe the Earth is only a few thousand years old and LGBTIQ are lifestyle choices. And that when we have trashed this planet we will get a new one/their kind will float off to heaven while everyone else will have pitchforks stuck into them etc etc.

That kind of thing has incensed me most of my life but I am currently starting to entertain the idea that you may as well be mad at children for believing in the tooth fairy.
 
Just jumping in to say, if they believe you are possessed they probably also believe the Earth is only a few thousand years old and LGBTIQ are lifestyle choices. And that when we have trashed this planet we will get a new one/their kind will float off to heaven while everyone else will have pitchforks stuck into them etc etc.

That kind of thing has incensed me most of my life but I am currently starting to entertain the idea that you may as well be mad at children for believing in the tooth fairy.

They're not claiming that their attraction to the same sex is a choice. They're talking about the decision to act on those impulses. It's a choice to live a life in which you date, have sex, etc. You can choose to do none of that.
 
They're not claiming that their attraction to the same sex is a choice. They're talking about the decision to act on those impulses. It's a choice to live a life in which you date, have sex, etc. You can choose to do none of that.

Yes, I know that. And I think that's utterly repulsive, and damaging, to tell people just because they aren't heterosexual/heteronormative, they shouldn't do the same thing that heterosexual/heteronormative people do under the same circumstances. It's discrimination, and it's abusive to tell people these things, and to say things like, "Sex isn't OK if you aren't heteronormative, you must abstain" and to paint it as immoral etc, just because you think that yourself, or your group thinks that, and you can't let other people be themselves when they're not the same as you (or some arbitrary "standard").

In enlightened countries the legislation is being put in to protect people with such differences from people and institutions who like to tell other people how they should live. Australia voted for marriage equality half a decade ago, finally.

You wouldn't believe how many podcasts I've listened to with LGBTIQ people from fundamentalist religious backgrounds telling their stories, and their unnecessarily complicated and painful journeys to coming out. And some who were convinced that they could be "healed" from their sexual orientation, and actually got married to an opposite-sex partner, and then after a while they realise they still are who they are and now it's unnecessarily causing pain for their partner as well.

Instead of listening to the dogmas of organised religions, I suggest people actually listen to people and their own stories - including people who are different from us, and understand what they are talking about, instead of thinking that we know what's best for someone else.
 
It’s not something I share lightly though.

Yes, this is something that I have learnt.

kind will float off to heaven while everyone else will have pitchforks stuck into them etc etc.
I think we’re better off not going with people like that. Heaven sounds like hell.
You should see the mountain trolls and water spirits we have here. They make you forget all about the tooth fairies. ;)

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This is how you travel around, mountain climbing on the back of a mountain troll.
 
Very good, @Forest Cat! :)

What I'm particularly interested in is the lovely Hardanger Fiddles, you lucky people!

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...now returning everyone to the main programme. ;)

That is Norways national instrument. And it is also known as "the Devils instrument", it used to be said that the devil taught people to play it. :)
 
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This is how you travel around, mountain climbing on the back of a mountain troll.

Mountain trolls, yes. They are so big they don`t notice you. But never try to ride a forest troll, they hate it when you do that. ;)
 
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They said that about Paganini too, @Forest Cat! :p That he'd sold his soul to be able to play like he did.

Funny what people will say when they're disconcerted by someone else's abilities, innit? :screamcat:

@Owliet, that sounds like an interesting and convenient way to travel - not to mention unusual. Are mountain trolls ridden bareback, or do they have special saddles? :innocent:

Returning to the main programme - I've been "accused" of being Aspie twice, in the way people will to put you down. The first was by a passing boyfriend in my 30s, who suddenly decided he wanted to "swing" and have group sex (and involve me in it). When I said, "Well, I'm not interested in that!" he suddenly started saying I was rigid and a goody-two-shoes and given my academic achievements etc and a few other things, I had to be autistic. I did not keep going out with this person, and left him to his group sex fantasies. It's not that I objected to him wanting to do that, I objected to him wanting me to want to do that, when I really don't. It's a boundary and what I want and don't want for myself, not something "autistic"...I think that was such a cheap shot, both at a partner who doesn't want to be pressured into someone else's sexual fantasies that aren't their own, and at people on the spectrum.

The second time it was when we were building our house and I wanted some part-time work on the side that fitted in with the schedule (I was the main building coordinator and dog's body for the build and did a lot of the interior outfitting when my husband went back to work). I'd seen William and Mary and the super Japanese film Departures and thought it might be nice to work in the funeral business for a bit, and sent my CV around. I got pinged by one of the companies and started doing on-call work for them. The boss was not a nice person - not just by my own assessment, when I saw how he ran things, but also because an older friend of mine who knew everyone in that town said, "Sue, that man is dreadful, don't tell me you're going to work for him!"

I said it was only a casual thing, and I'd keep my eyes peeled and get out if I got uncomfortable. He was a greasy, swaggering type, late middle aged, with a touch of Napoleon syndrome, by the looks of it. He seemed to think that everything that proceeded out of his mouth was witty and intelligent, and that people ought to adore him and do his bidding. Very unpleasant; but those kind of narcissistic suits aren't uncommon in the business world. The rest of the staff were fine to work with, and sort of buffered each other from him.

I did notice, and call out, his misogyny and inappropriateness, after a while. He'd make leering and inappropriate remarks when he had female staff members on their own or in pairs, and one particular time when it was really really off, I told him straight to his face that this was a totally inappropriate way to be talking to his female staff and that I wasn't going to put up with it. He didn't like that, but the world is full of people like this who think they can treat others with this kind of disrespect - and I don't like misogyny. I don't think he'd ever had anyone call him out on that before. From then on he stopped calling me by my actual name, and sniggeringly called me "Sheldon".

At first I had no idea what he was on about, because I don't watch trashy TV programmes. But I soon found out what the reference was. And really, it was just another cheap shot: He knew what was on my CV and you know what mediocre males do to female so-called "tall poppies" - and actually, that kind of treatment of women in Australian institutions, by men like this, is really common, and there's just been a major report into how lousy that situation is in the Australian parliament, which is a privileged boys' club with a drinking-at-work and sexual harassment culture.

So there you have it - that will tell you something about the ignorance of some people out there, and also about the propensities people have for making the Aspie spectrum into some kind of joke/denigrating comment, with the typical assumed superiority of those sorts of people (who are just common garden variety posterior orifices).

Deficiencies in social skills are really common in the neurotypical population, and shouldn't be seen as the monopoly of people on the spectrum. In the cases of Funeral Man and his ilk out there, and the Australian parliament, I'd go one further and call that atrocious behaviour by people who are deliberately choosing to cross the line in all sorts of ways.

There endeth my sermon. I hope that was helpful for someone. I don't have a high opinion of people like this.
 
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