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Do You Feel Like An Alien?

Oh yes, I always do, especially at school.

Even when I am hanging out with my small group of friends, I feel extremely isolated. I feel like everyone ignores me, doesn't hear me, and doesn't understand me when I actually try to explain myself.

I have felt different my whole life, and it is very frustrating. It's hard to find people to relate to, that's a reason I joined this forum (and it's been great! People are actually nice to me and listen to me!).

But in real life when I'm not at my computer, it is reality... It's hard. I already feel like an alien compared to almost every other girl at school out of my natural personality and interests, Asperger's or not! I dress like a boy, I'm not into dating, I love to stay home all the time, I hate shopping, I like snakes, etc.

Anyway, yeah... I think we all do to some extent. It seems like with me people either are very rude or they just give me blank stares when I share my opinion, stuff like that.

It's really just ignorance and lack of understanding on their part.
 
Oh yes, I always do, especially at school.

Even when I am hanging out with my small group of friends, I feel extremely isolated. I feel like everyone ignores me, doesn't hear me, and doesn't understand me when I actually try to explain myself.

I have felt different my whole life, and it is very frustrating. It's hard to find people to relate to, that's a reason I joined this forum (and it's been great! People are actually nice to me and listen to me!).

But in real life when I'm not at my computer, it is reality... It's hard. I already feel like an alien compared to almost every other girl at school out of my natural personality and interests, Asperger's or not! I dress like a boy, I'm not into dating, I love to stay home all the time, I hate shopping, I like snakes, etc.

Anyway, yeah... I think we all do to some extent. It seems like with me people either are very rude or they just give me blank stares when I share my opinion, stuff like that.

It's really just ignorance and lack of understanding on their part.

I crossdressed for the majority of my life and I also love snakes. I have a skeleton of a snake in a glass box I call Mr. Fuzzy

I always feel isolated. This is becoming stronger and stronger the more people I'm around, oddly enough.
 
My 9 year old niece comes home from school and cries that she never feels like she fits in. My heart breaks for her, as I know what she is experiencing. I have long wondered if she has ADHD, and have wondered more recently if she is AS. Her parents will not consider that she may suffer from either because they believe that children are overdiagnosed, with ADHD especially. I don't know what to do, as I love her dearlly, don't want her to suffer as I did, and feel that I am remiss by not pushing the matter with her parents. However, they are very prickly about this. Does anyone have any thoughts about this?
 
When i was 9 i came home from school every day crying after crying all day AT school. It drove my mom crazy.
No one suspected anything on the Autistic Spectrum (like Aspergers, which I have) because I was smart and read encyclopedias for fun and was highly artistic.
My mom thought I was an over-sensitive kid.

ADHD is over diagnosed due to parents who can't deal with a hyper kid, and kids ARE hyper. The crying doesn't sound like ADHD but I would highly recommend looking into the family history and if nothing is there about Autistic Spectrum Disorders, bring it up anyway.
Also, maybe ask the niece if she's being bullied?
 
Well, I am AS, and quite probably so are my father, brother, adult nephew and possibly another adult niece (different descent line than my 9 year old niece). We are all related by blood. I try to see with as much clarity as possible, and TRY to avoid the trap of seeing my condition in others. Bullying has been ruled out, apparently. She was taken to see a child counselor because of her meltdowns and anxiety. The counselor said nothing about disorders or other conditions, only that she needed time and space to decompress sometimes. She is incredibly smart, reading above grade level, etc. I guess I just wonder what I can do to help. She and I go out into the woods for photo "safaris" and enjoy being quiet together. We also love to color pictures together, even though we know we're "too old" for it. :lol2:
 
I love the woods and coloring as well haha.

Within the next few years as she enters adolescence, certain things will become more apparent so that a proper diagnosis (or maybe there's nothing to diagnose!) will appear. It sounds very Aspergers-y but so do many people who are NT.

=)
 
I too have someone in my family who I am pretty sure has AS, this being my father, who can be a cold, infuriating asshole when he isn’t getting what he wants from me. He and I used to have power struggles all the time when I was younger, the two of us butting heads because he wanted me to do something or act some way that I didn’t, and I wanted him to give me something, material or emotional. Neither one of us would give an inch, and so we would essentially have stalemates with one another as we fought. I once even threatened to kill myself with a knife by holding it to my chest, only so that I could use my own life as leverage one time when I felt all other options had been taken from me.

Today however I’ve grown up a lot. I’m not that way anymore, and although I still don’t get along that well with my father, and I probably never will, I can deal with it. I realize now that most people aren’t going to understand me, that to them I will seem odd, gross, vulgar, and crass, but I have long since made my peace with that fact, and quite truly I embrace it.

I even realize that I have many weaknesses that I probably won’t ever be able to rid myself of, but I actually accept that, something few people are able to do. Most people are perfectionists in regards to their own maturity and will ignore, deny, or try furiously in vein to rid themselves of them.

I, however accept those traits, and that they may pass from my being and they may not, and either way, I am still myself and will always maintain control over my own actions.

Also, in an odd twist of fate, for the past few years I have found myself enrolled in a Transition program [a place they send people who didn’t graduate High School so they can get their diploma, and learn “transition” skills to make it in the real world. They will also send people with severe mental disabilities there. In my case, I had such a chronic problem with not being able to get up in the morning that I actually failed High School due to missing far too many days.]

At this place, I now find myself surrounded mostly by people who are, in all honestly, vastly inferior to me in intelligence in pretty much all forms. I’d like to note, many of them aren’t even mentally disabled. My school is also filled with quite a few hardcore gang members who I guess just never took school seriously. To be fair, most of those students are listed as having learning disabilities, but if you ask me personally, even the term “learning disability” itself is just a nice way of saying that someone is stupid. And so, I feel alienated from many [not all, I have many friends there, and there are a few of the students who are actually very smart like me] of my classmates simply because of how incredibly stupid, and also immature they are.

I know that that may come across as a little harsh and overly judgmental, and to be honest, even now I have trouble accepting it, but it really is true. To give you an example, there are actually classes at this school, which I will remind you is only for people over the age of 18, for learning how to Read and Write, do basic Math, and learning the very basic history of the United States and the structure of its government, information which I have noticed most of the people who were in the class with me [I took it to have discussions, and because the options were so limited there] didn’t even remember, even minutes afterward.

I have always valued intelligence extremely highly as a merit when judging a person, and so now that so many people who are so incredibly low in intelligence surround me, I find it hard to keep myself from hating them. I suppose this brings up an interesting philosophical question, one I have been trying to answer for myself for some time now. When people speak about prejudice, they usually say that a person should be judged by their merits, the “content of their character” as opposed to whatever superficial trait you choose to judge them by, but what if the traits you’re judging them on are their merits? What if you encounter a person who is mentally retarded and therefore truly is inferior to you in pretty much every significant way? In essence, this situation would force a person to face their own beliefs, on a wide number of things, such as their image of themselves, their place in relation to the people around them, the concept of “value,” the judgments that they make of people, and their idea of the importance those things that they judged the other person on in relation to themselves.

This last part is how I have now begun to break my long-standing prejudice against the severely mentally challenged, a fault I’ve had for many years, mostly because I see things in them that remind me of my own faults. I have simply accepted that although those things are real, although my classmates with low intelligence and maturity may be severely behind me in those specific traits, it doesn’t actually matter in relation to me.
 
I connect with animals very well. Some years ago I adopted a German Shepherd and, although he doesn't live with me, I commute every day go and take him out. He's like the family dog but only I have free time enough to do all the walking and exercise. Myself and the Shep developed a very strong bond and I find I read and relate to dogs far better than most. More so Sheps as, they're really very intelligent. It would be quite fair to say the dog is closer to me that any other person which causes some concern amongst family as they can't get to grips as to why I choose to spend most of my time with him (usually just reading while he chews happily on a ball).
So, question I have to ask is does aspergers relate to the environment or only people?
Let me try and explain myself from another angle: Don't you find that 90 per cent of human beings are superficial? Do they really care about you for who you are or do they claim to like you for what you appear to have? Or just on a conditional basis? Do they like you on the basis of how you fit in with others as a whole? For example, "I really like this guy as he's popular, has a big car and a nice house!"
Now my dog simply loves me on an unconditional basis and will very often not eat his food till I arrive but just wait till I'm present (even when hungry). He doesn't care if I screw up sometimes, forget to shave, lose all my money or get rejected by everybody else. Animals tend to make deeper evaluations in their own way.
Another point is I also think 90 per cent of people live an illusion. Miliions of people mistakenly believe they've valued and loved by partners or friends but so very often get used. A bit like the boxing champ who has loads of friends when he has the title belt but when he loses that belt all the friends disappear very quickly.
So, to sum this up: Do you feel alienated from your environment as a whole or just other people?
In my case I'm very very alienated in relation to people but not animals and nature. I don't feel the same kind of rejections or pressures with animals which is why I usually prefer to just spend time with the dog, throwing his ball in between reading text books in the garden.


Meh... I don't even have some kind of connection with animals. It's not that I hate them, but I just don't really like animals in general either. To me, it's probably along the same lines of why I feel I'm being alienated by people in a way... animals don't talk back either, and that's what to me kinda helps in being less alienated, having decent convo's. Connecting through language... but that might just as well be just me.
 
I'll get back to this in more detail later but, for now, suffice it to say I've been delving into communication at the subconscious level which we know exists due to subliminal messages that have been researched. I'm interested as to whether the feelings of alienation are connected to part of this because, as I see it, the person with aspergers tends to suffer a very subtle, ongoing rejection. I understand this as I experience it a lot and maybe more so when my own A.S symptoms are higher at a given time.
I believe a good deal of communication takes place at a subconscious level we're not cognitively aware of and it's the cognitive part that struggles with the rejection phenomenon (in trying to make sense of it).
 
I can clearly remember specifically being called an alien when I was 13. At a school camp, I was in bed having a quiet evening read - something I always enjoy - when a boy from one of the far cabins suddenly burst into the room chuckling erratically, with no apparent reason for being there. He turned to face his friends who must have been standing outside and out of view, which suggested that this was some sort of immature shenanigan. "Yes," I inquired. Then he turned to his friend and exclaimed "he's like a f--king alien, mate" (could I have typed that word here in full? I've never had to use it on here before) as if I couldn't have understood those words. Often when people say "alien" they mean anyone who isn't a Caucasian, neurotypical, heterosexual, cookie-cutter person - roughly, that is, I'm sure it's much more specific than that. I'm fine with being an "alien", few people aren't one, underneath.
 
I'm going to begin working on my "mask" a little better. Being a flamingly weird psychopathic Aspie may not get me far in the world if people know about it.
 
I felt like an Alien for the longest time. Now that I'v found my 'race' I fit in somewhat :P About damn time!
 
While i have been called many names for what I am. I don't know if alien describes me or not. I am who I am. AS or not. It's not a disorder that defines you and makes you feel like an alien its allowing other people to persuade you into thinking you need to be like them. I am who I am. I am not an alien, or werido, or freak, or Drama Llama, etc...I am just me...just plan old Arashi222. If that makes me an alien so be it then. :)
 
Yes!!!!! You just reminded me of when I was about 11, I had been reading the harry potter books, possibly before the films came out, and I'm sure I remember going to bed on the night of 12th birthday thinking ''I must be a wizard, at midnight hagrid is going to come in and take me away to hogwarts, this must be why im so different to everyone, it's because I can do magic!''
Unfortunately, Hagrid didn't come to collect me, and I was left to attend a normal boys school without the added bonus of a wand, owl or friends.
But I guess it shows that one, my mind had realised at that stage [undiagnosed until age 18] that it was functioning differently from everyone else, and two, it was still at a developing age so it actually believed I could be a wizard. But yeah anyway, I've always felt like I wasn't from this world, in fact I find myself now saying in my head '' This is just stupid I'd so redesign the world if I could, all these humans are idiots! I just don't see how a floating piece of dirt in space somehow owes itself money and why everyone has to do the things they do to live, I feel like I'm an outsider who can't communicate properly with others because I get called weird when I do. Itll sound weird even on here, but I don't understand, things cost money, people have to provide services for eachother to get that money, then the world will somehow keep going, feeding heating and housing the people on it. But do we really NEED half the things people do? Like a house. Houses in the uk are up to ?100,000 plus now, some are ?150,000 some are ?200000. The building itself must have cost less than that to build right? Pipes bricks glass etc. So, once the materials have been put together and the builder has been paid, where does all the other cost come from? Who decided a house was worth more than most people would get lent by a bank? How can it cost so much to put a building together? Just seems stupid, if a ?300,000 house only cost say ?80,000 to put together, why is it worth ?300,000? Because someone somewhere has accumulated that much money to purchase it it suddenly becomes worth triple what it cost to build? That's just stupid, if I was n charge I'd just put a law in place saying ''no, the house is worth what it cost to build and for the materials, not any more because of how sought after it might be''.
 
I often feel like an alien when I'm in social situations with very normal people. I'm not sure if I can change this feeling, but I would love to be more comfortable with it which could possibly decrease my social anxiety.
 
I was hoping my new way of thinking would get rid of my social anxiety, it seemed to for a group of three (including me), but two more made me seek refuge in my mind even more and didn't speak as much. When I did only when related to my interests. :bored:
 
I was hoping my new way of thinking would get rid of my social anxiety, it seemed to for a group of three (including me), but two more made me seek refuge in my mind even more and didn't speak as much. When I did only when related to my interests. :bored:

I also find socialising with large groups incredibly difficult, even if it's a group of very friendly people that I get on well with individually. I usually try to single them out and talk them that way, as I just can't engage a whole group. I actually often find it even more frustrating when the conversation turns to my interests. If they're talking about a movie, none of them are interested in the views of someone like me who doesn't just watch films that America has put out in this century, and so has a broader perspective. They're also unwilling to have the input of someone who studies linguistics if they're talking about an aspect of the English language. People just don't seem to want to learn things from me about these things, but they love educating me on their interests.
 
Which is why I got into fibreglass and boat restoration. For some time, I've been rebuilding an old wrecked boat with a view to live on it, wire it up for solar power electricity and live very simply. I've been on this project now for some time so had to learn to repair fibreglass, a bit of woodwork and, above all, electronics.
You could say, I have an idea to drop out altogether for the reasons you describe above. And I've even considered going out to sea, as opposed to rivers and inland.
Truth is I'm highly skeptical I can "cut it" in modern society where success seems to depend too much upon people liking you and judging you. I mean, so many jobs tend to depend on how other people above judge you. You can be really good at something but because you may act off-key or think differently, you become excluded. Really I wish I'd known a long time ago that an alternative lifestyle may be the main answer to not fitting in. Not that I'm thinking of living in a bubble by myself but what it's really about is independence. I don't wish to be subjected to value judgements that stop me functioning so it kind of helps if you can by-pass the system.
The boat looks great now and is far from being an old wreck any more.

Yes!!!!! You just reminded me of when I was about 11, I had been reading the harry potter books, possibly before the films came out, and I'm sure I remember going to bed on the night of 12th birthday thinking ''I must be a wizard, at midnight hagrid is going to come in and take me away to hogwarts, this must be why im so different to everyone, it's because I can do magic!''
Unfortunately, Hagrid didn't come to collect me, and I was left to attend a normal boys school without the added bonus of a wand, owl or friends.
But I guess it shows that one, my mind had realised at that stage [undiagnosed until age 18] that it was functioning differently from everyone else, and two, it was still at a developing age so it actually believed I could be a wizard. But yeah anyway, I've always felt like I wasn't from this world, in fact I find myself now saying in my head '' This is just stupid I'd so redesign the world if I could, all these humans are idiots! I just don't see how a floating piece of dirt in space somehow owes itself money and why everyone has to do the things they do to live, I feel like I'm an outsider who can't communicate properly with others because I get called weird when I do. Itll sound weird even on here, but I don't understand, things cost money, people have to provide services for eachother to get that money, then the world will somehow keep going, feeding heating and housing the people on it. But do we really NEED half the things people do? Like a house. Houses in the uk are up to ?100,000 plus now, some are ?150,000 some are ?200000. The building itself must have cost less than that to build right? Pipes bricks glass etc. So, once the materials have been put together and the builder has been paid, where does all the other cost come from? Who decided a house was worth more than most people would get lent by a bank? How can it cost so much to put a building together? Just seems stupid, if a ?300,000 house only cost say ?80,000 to put together, why is it worth ?300,000? Because someone somewhere has accumulated that much money to purchase it it suddenly becomes worth triple what it cost to build? That's just stupid, if I was n charge I'd just put a law in place saying ''no, the house is worth what it cost to build and for the materials, not any more because of how sought after it might be''.
 
Was with 2 people I know today and they just seemed to lose awareness I was actually there. It was odd. Sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't. I was listening for a while and, after a while, decided to go off on my way. As I calmly walked away there was no acknowledgement or awareness I had removed myself. I seem to have acquired the power of invisibiity but fortunately I can see the funny side of it.
 
Do I feel like an Alien? That would be an understatement! I daydream that one day a spaceship is gonna land and some aliens will come out saying I am their long-lost son and that they have been looking for me for 40 years.
 

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