Does anyone here believe we are in the biblical end times?

[FilterFreq]

Everyone always thinks they're living in the end times. I think this is just part of the human experience.

We draw parallels, see patterns we want to see, and have a sense of urgency kind of baked within us. Mostly because we're worried about our survival and wellbeing, but also because we're constantly seeking a higher purpose. I don't fault anyone for doing any of this, but sometimes it's worth it to realize that in this life, it's always going to feel like the world is coming to an end right before our eyes, even if that couldn't be further from the truth.

 

[Kayla55]

Yuk, imagine eating curried Braun (or boboti mince) op n vetkoek
Wat n Berger!!

Looser of trivial pursuit eat this with straight face.

You know whats also quite Grosse is chicken soup mix, it's offcuts/bones with soggy soup skins (eeuuuuu) en sit n kreul-naeltjie on top!

 

[Kayla55]

It isn't the end times. It's just media focusing on the negative and people eating it up. Statistically speaking we've never as a species been more prosperous in general. We are healthier, bigger, live longer, smarter, etc etc. And while climate disasters are ramping up, they still aren't effecting large enough groups to effect or even account for anything approaching a majority.

Now that could seem skewed if you're an American with the ridiculous amount of mass shootings. I think the last several years in a row they've had more mass shootings than days in the year. Yet the nutters don't think guns are an issue but now we are onto another topic entirely.

But it's weather signs, and all disease, moral fibre or lack there of.
I sometimes think it's true, then I read that it's holy war but humanity will rebuild and life will go on.
Can't say for sure, but at times think perhaps spiritual is existing, and should be recognised. I think I believe it's end times

 

[DrBadStrings]

But it's weather signs, and all disease, moral fibre or lack there of.
I sometimes think it's true, then I read that it's holy war but humanity will rebuild and life will go on.
Can't say for sure, but at times think perhaps spiritual is existing, and should be recognised. I think I believe it's end times

Coming from a heavy environmental sciences background I can't attribute the weather to any religious prediction. I think it's pretty apparent we caused some major damage to this planet and now we have to suffer. Now interestingly enough while I can see the potential for the end of the human species as a result of our actions I don't think it "end times" as I full well believe that even after we wipe ourselves out this planet will keep on trucking just find. It's hubris to think we are "destroying" the planet. In truth we are just destroying the part we rely.

From the disease angle we've never had more treatments or cures for that matter coming down the pipe. Consider that apart from the USA every modern country has universal healthcare and medicines/treatment for the most part are free. The sheer number of diseases that used to be deadly and now are just an afterthought really puts things into perspective. When's the last time you had a childhood friend die from polio? Exactly.

Now the "moral fiber or lack there of". That point isn't worth saying much to. Morality is a human invention dependent upon the observers opinion. What is moral to some is immoral to others. I for instance would be considered immoral by some on this page as I'm fine with swearing and think it can actually add to the conversation and isn't just something that crass dullards do.

I don't know how old you are but I'm in my 40's and so far I can probably think of about 5 different "the world was ending" moments in my own lifetime and hundreds if I were to go through the last 100 years. Humanity bungles and screws up a lot but in the end we survive because we are incredibly resilient. And we breed enough stupid fodder for the trial and error testing of what we should and shouldn't do.

Ultimately though I can't put any stock in "end times" thoughts as that would also involve me accepting that the Christians were correct and that is not something that will ever happen. Following a book written by committee 2-300 years after the events that was then telephone game changed throughout the centuries to meet the agenda of whatever ruler was in power. Say what you will about the Quran at least it reads with one singular author, much more coherent work of fiction. I feel that most religions offer good lessons on living absolutely none of them have any proof other than "I believe it's real". If there were definitive proof we wouldn't have multiple 1000's of religions.

 

[jsilver256]

Go to chatgpt.com and copy & paste the following:

Out of all documents in antiquity, what stands out in terms of dating closest to the original date, the most number of copies, and the most external references? Compare to other documents to give an idea of how outstanding it is.

What makes Jesus' resurrection unique is that it meets the criteria for a historical fact. Overwhelming historical fact. Except for methodological naturalism, which a priori rejects any supernatural explanation and has to seek out alternative explanations such as the Q source hypothesis (which there is no proof for).

I know you don't believe it. Most people don't believe it. That is your choice.

As for the End Times thing - there is a very clear Scripture which is not being met - many people claiming to be the Messiah and many being fooled. Until that happens, there is no way to credibly say we are in End Times. But that doesn't stop many from wishing it were so.

 

[Kayla55]

As child I became atheist and was obsessed with how stuff worked, my teen crash leaving me to gather pieces and get my life together, apart of me did change due to experience, whether it was spiritual calling... Seeing hybrid creatures now sends a moral message to me, despite whether we sharp enough to do it, should we?
Honestly Christianity is wide spread and my understanding of bible wasn't all together clear, there were reasons in those days to be kosher, serious reason for many of laws that aren't evident. It's confusing as I'm not Christian, I don't fit in with Israel at all, but there were 12 tribes of Israel. Book of judges being a book for our tribe of titan, but ongoing civil war and not everyone agrees with Samson marrying outside of our people. So Jeremiah will always be my favourite, Ezekiel is good. There were many Jews who went for Jesus, it's unclear which tribes kept kosher and why.
Due to variations in tribes, some discontent with some tribes lifestyles or the books of their prophets, the bible is clear on David's downfall but disputes on laws regarding slaves escalated to divide. When some slaves had better land and rights, we with no land were influenced by Syrian settlers during spice wars. I love consistency within Quran and history of our people and my life is reasoning behind my decision to study islam.

like I said I was lead to learn spirituality, and it has helped me greatly.

 

[Kayla55]

Throughout ages it was difficult to oppose the majority even if they were incorrect. If one can't provide proof of address or fingerprints, can't use bank which = can't transact in today's day.
This was Jeremiah of Victor and it is pessimistic, that's correct....so often evil conquers good and weary are unable to stand up in fear of destruction to their lives. However it's not my right to oppose however I'm in disagreement over deporting immigrants from Hungary. When my neighbour should come to my door and ask me for assistance it is my honour to treat them as my best guest. The French tribe occupy most of Europe by labelling slight diversification as I dependent countries, also serve to live on other continents which are clearly not their land. Whether the corrupt, self serving EU likes my views or not I believe in being a force to be reckoned with.
Bulgaria is our land, we also tired of being landlocked and rely on sea access, and despite clear disputes, they clearly ignore these claims. Many wives taken over centuries were actually forbidden, the conversions were not willing, the person's identity forsaken - how do we resolve this. By permitting refugees to be relocated to Bulgaria that they may find peace, who allows this, the very decision by which you originally took what was not agreed upon. Long story short.

How does one live feed from neighbours interferences, how can we oppose a great force that disrespecting our freedoms, by standing up with faith that the actions are sure to bring about chance whether it's liked or not.

 

[Kayla55]

I'm still at odds about this:
Dutchies insist that their war crimes against vieetnaam were actions in war however there are times we defending our own border vs exploiting others to uphold lifestyle. Then whilst sanctions continue this country accepts AI investments and has excesses over not claiming museum pieces. If you can't be self-protecting, fine but don't expect everyone else to pardon you eating at our table (food wasn't on offer) whilst expecting others to go without. A few lectures on what suits EU doesn't pardon this and not first time they in poverty due to giving Dutch cultural influences (like yoga) that didn't belong to them. I've seeing this going on for ages, how they help RSA at expense of own children, a fool to believe the slave driver could ever care.

I used to think I'm this way inclined due to my autism, but after being on forum I've realised some of my influences must be coming from elsewhere.
My perception is that we evaluate war crimes on basis of risk to civilians within our borders. This way Holland is encouraged to find better gold digging practices in the future. What would they know about struggles, they've never even fought war to defend their land.

 

[Kayla55]

Where did this trail of my thought scatter?
Does having autism make us smart, are we the one who are accelerating science and technology, is this relevant to end times and this thread?

If Elon musks success is clever by using NT methods to achieve success,
Is there a prejudice by German EU to provide jobs to some and not include us all.
How on earth do some of us survive, on poverty or live entire life excluded from life and battling our difficulties while nt lives are better and better and they can't even give us space n power to define the job market we do/or do not create?
If we are what drives technology, why are we so unhappy and is it time we let them know who is disabled.

Article in support of this argument:

Are Autistic People Smart? Autism Geniuses

Conclusion: are we morally obliged to take control of the planet and assist nt people with moral rules, do most autistic values lend to asd traits that may not lie purposefully but in some areas we lack spiritual guidance?

 

[Brian0787]

Hi!, This is my first post in the Religion section but I believe we are not exactly in the End Times but definitely getting very close. With the events in the Middle East concerning Israel and the increasing moral and social decay (my personal view. Some may view it differently and that's ok) we see around us. I think of the passage in Matthew 24:37 in the New Testament which states "As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man". From my understanding during Noah's times things were very, very bad. Enough to the point where God decided to flood the Earth (I personally take Genesis literally and believe this did happen exactly as it was written. Some have different interpretations of Genesis and how it's viewed).

Genesis 6:5 states about that time that "The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time". That gives us a biblical reference point in my opinion of what it will be like as we approach the End Times. The increasing use of A.I. personally gives me a lot of concerns. I speculate this may play a role in the "man of perdition" or the Antichrist. The Book of Revelation in the New Testament speaks about "The image of the Beast". When I think of this A.I. comes to mind.

 

[Magna]

Biblical? No. Path to extinction of our species? Mathematically, yes. It's simple math. You can use A.I. to help run out the projections based on factors such as the minimal number of children born in developed (and even many "non-developed" countries), minimal number of families, etc. I think it was maybe last year, but I goaded chatgpt to run the projections (it didn't want to because it loves vaguery) and from what I recall it was less than 500 years for the human race if our downward spiral continues. Extinct as a result of our hubris and inherent weakness toward being easily manipulated. Dodos died out because of their gullibility, however they can't be faulted for it because of their lack of intelligence. If the human race dies out from anything other than an unexpected natural calamity, we deserve it.

 

[Aspergers_Aspie]

I have been researching this subject and found this article:-

Article

 

[tree]

I have been researching this subject and found this article:-

Article

Which one?

When I clicked the link it went to a page with 15 articles.

 

[abby normal]

I believe I can see it from here.

 

[Cryptid]

I have been researching this subject . . .

Did you do any ACTUAL research?

• Did you compile a literature review and write abstracts on each article?

• Did you collect a random sample of sources and perform independent probability statistics on the reported results?

• Did you at least take each article one by one and look into the source (that would be the author, publisher, and funder), then critique the writing for logical fallacies, cognitive distortions, and plain inaccuracies?

• Did you ask yourself why this source might publish these particular results?

• Did you follow the trail of references and apply the same source of scrutiny to them?

If you answered 'No' to each of these questions, then you did no actual research on anything.

 

[vergil96]

There have always been bad times and criseses in history. It has been said multiple times that the end of the world is approaching even in the span of last 3 decades. Some people survive the crises and cataclysms and the world goes on.

 

[Rachie]

We have all I expect been through some difficult last few years. I am sure some of us may have thought to ourselves what is going on and is this the end of the world and sometimes you may have even wished it could be as well. Now I am not a political person. Just yesterday I said those words to myself pretty much what is going on in the world when I no longer obtain things that were essential to faith I questioned what is going on to family and who said they had the same experiences. This has not been the first time as well.

I had this dream at 17 that just blew my mind apart at the time. I dreamt that something dreadful swept over a land. It was like something just razored the ground and people were being separated from loved ones. It was so vivid the dream and I couldn’t make sense of it and shared it no one at the time I think.

I don’t know where we are in this timeline. There are things you can get a match on but I couldn’t say where we are. Jesus will return as depicted, when I do not know. The Holy Spirit will be poured on the earth before this though as the Prophet Joel said and we need to endure more to reach this point.

I must have listened to the Book of Revelations a while ago now and there are parts I clearly remember but can get a bit daunted by this. I try and live my life in the here and now doing the best I can. I am on guard generally, not though just for the end times. The two men in the field parable one left one taken-Matthew 24:40 -one to think about it now moreso. "Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left."

It must be about two years ago now. I was in my living room and two minutes from me in a park I just heard a whirling outside. I admit I was scared, I never heard of such a sound in my life. I was pancied a bit. I went to look outside and what I see an ambulance and the neighbours around staring. I didn’t know what to make of it. I probably said it will be only the Lord who will above this as well. I uploaded it and will link you to it.

 

[Shevek]

I don't believe most of what I hear about the End Times, but I think I'm seeing the Anti-Christ on the news every day.

 

[Aspergers_Aspie]

Sorry, this I meant to send a link to Link

 

[Rachie]

You know this is pretty old thread. I read the first post and then skipped to the last few. I have seen really older threads but not bumped them. I will consider this perhaps again.

Now this may have been posted, of course there is detail in the Book of Revelation, but this may suffice for some.

I thought I would recap and quote from Matthew 24 more information and scripture about the end times.

Temple Destruction Foretold
(Mark 13:1-9; Luke 21:5-9)

And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.


False Christs
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows.


Witnessing to All Nations
(Mark 13:10-13; Luke 21:10-19)

Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.


The Abomination of Desolation
(Mark 13:14-23; Luke 21:20-24)

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand. Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before.


The Return of the Son of Man
(Mark 13:24-27; Luke 21:25-28)

Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.


The lesson of the Fig Tree
(Mark 13:28-31; Luke 21:29-33)

Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Be Ready at Any Hour
(Genesis 6:1-7; Mark 13:32-37; Luke 12:35-48)

But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.