Extraordinary fatigue

[Kalinychta]

What about your gut problems that you were talking about the other day? Could it be from that?

 

[Slime_Punk]

As someone with quite a lot of fatigue who has been deemed 'healthy' by doctors (and gets blood drawn every year to make sure things aren't coming down the pipe), I think a lot of things can cause fatigue, ranging from poor sleep to stimulant use, a sedentary lifestyle, poor diet, vitamin deficiencies, exercise levels, stomach issues and possibly even ASD / ADHD burnout (personally I have both of those).

The first step is obviously to get cleared of anything serious (by a professional), and then see what else can be done. In my experience, there's always more that can be done without too much effort, and a little bit goes a long way. Sometimes for me, an extra 30 minute exercise session can really make a difference, and different things work for different people. I also recently started supplementing with B vitamins and vitamin D, so I'm hoping this makes a difference.

Also, IIRC you mentioned stomach acid levels in another thread and I'm wondering if maybe these things are related? I have something that acts quite a bit like IBD (even though doctors swear up and down that I'm fine) and I suspect that this wears me down from time to time. Being human is hard.

 

[Jonn]

You can't refute symptoms.

You misunderstood.
Have they refuted the concept of "Long COVID"?

 

[Au Naturel]

You misunderstood.
Have they refuted the concept of "Long COVID"?

The symptoms create the concept. Unless you want to say that nobody experiences those symptoms, the concept is valid.

A small percentage of people (that still puts it in the millions just for the US) continue to experience certain physical and mental impairments long after COVID has been cleared out of their system. That is the concept that "long Covid" is shorthand for. Often, the impairments are medically demonstrable.

A particular set of personality traits can occur together with resulting sensory and social dysfunction. We notice that pattern and give it the label of Autism. Autism is a concept generated by recognizing a pattern and giving it a label. The only way to "refute" it is to say that particular cluster of traits does not exist and nobody really experiences it.

My own theory is that the intense battle against the virus may trigger an autoimmune disorder. But that's just a theory, and there are other viable explanations. A theory of origin isn't the "concept." Even if you assume that millions of people suffer from imaginary illness after COVID, it doesn't refute the concept. You have just produced a theory as to why the effects occurred.

It would be like trying to refute the concept of UFOs. There have always been and will always be aerial phenomena that cannot be identified. "UFO" is just a shorthand for the concept that there are things we see in the sky that we don't know the explanation for. It doesn't necessarily require little green men from Mars.

 

[Jonn]

I think you still misunderstand where I am coming from.
I am not postulating anything about Long COVID.
I was simply asking if you or others have any information.

 

[Ella Spell]

Covid can actually reactivate Epstein-Barr.
Have you had Covid?

 

[Fino]

What about your gut problems that you were talking about the other day? Could it be from that?

Yes, my theory is that those problems led to something I recently learned about called "malabsorption," where my body has trouble extracting vitamins, minerals, etc. from food. I supplemented with digestive enzymes and consumed large amounts of calories and a wide variety of vitamins, minerals, etc, which are suggestions I found online, and I've continued to improve since then. Today, I felt almost completely normal! My doctor's appointment is in two weeks, but if I remain stable up until then I'll just cancel that.

 

[Fino]

Covid can actually reactivate Epstein-Barr.
Have you had Covid?

If you're asking me, I've had Covid twice. It was quite awful both times.

 

[Jonn]

I felt almost completely normal!

Autistic normal, you mean.

 

[Jonn]

If you're asking me, I've had Covid twice. It was quite awful both times.

I have no doubt I had COVID before the news went mainstream.
Worst "flu" I ever had in my life.
I was delirious and can't recall how many weeks I suffered.
"Asphyxiation", what a marvellous way to go.

 

[Fino]

Autistic normal, you mean.

I make a similar joke often. When I do something strange or say something strange about myself, I'm like, "Don't worry, that's normal. For me." Or, "Oh, that's normal. If you're autistic."

 

[Au Naturel]

Yes, my theory is that those problems led to something I recently learned about called "malabsorption," where my body has trouble extracting vitamins, minerals, etc. from food. I supplemented with digestive enzymes and consumed large amounts of calories and a wide variety of vitamins, minerals, etc, which are suggestions I found online, and I've continued to improve since then. Today, I felt almost completely normal! My doctor's appointment is in two weeks, but if I remain stable up until then I'll just cancel that.

Don't. Never turn down an opportunity for a checkup and bloodwork.

 

[Misty Avich]

I had the worst flu I'd had in my life, but that was in March 2019 and I don't think covid had quite ruined the world yet at that time (meaning it wasn't about yet).

 

[Au Naturel]

I had the worst flu I'd had in my life, but that was in March 2019 and I don't think covid had quite ruined the world yet at that time (meaning it wasn't about yet).

People forget that influenza kills 20K people every year in the US.

Before the influenza vaccine, it was a much higher proportion. The influenza epidemic of 1918 made the COVID-19 pandemic look trivial.

 

[Misty Avich]

People forget that influenza kills 20K people every year in the US.

Before the influenza vaccine, it was a much higher proportion. The influenza epidemic of 1918 made the COVID-19 pandemic look trivial.

Funny how the media scaremongers other things but never flu, except Swine flu and Bird flu but that's just because they could add an animal in front of it.

 

[Forest Cat]

I did experience something like that, it was iron-deficiency anemia fatigue. A doctor can easily do a test for that. It's years ago but the doctor gave me some iron supplement and told me to eat more goat cheese and meat.

 

[Aspychata]

Also as we age, our bodies become worse at breaking down nutrients, protein etc. I was surprised to read this.

 

[Fino]

Don't. Never turn down an opportunity for a checkup and bloodwork.

Okay. You've single-handedly affected my behavior. I'll keep the appointment either way.

 

[Midnights11]

I’m pretty sure a lot of my fatigue comes from people lol. If I had a cottage surrounded by books and animals, I would dance to my heart’s content with my favorite music

 

[Au Naturel]

Have you donated blood recently?

I just did a Power Red blood donation where they take two units of blood, spin out the red blood cells, and give you back the plasma plus some saline. Definitely fatigued and activity jacks up my pulse and breath rate. Kind of like moving around at a high altitude.