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Facing Discrimination

KevinMao133

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You ever feel like you being discriminated by people who are different than you?

this is my situation. Though they don’t say anything, I can feel something

despite doing well in school and life, they keeping putting labels on me

saying things like ”you can’t do this.” “You shouldn’t act like this.”

they keep trying to put me in a cage, because I have shown I have the ability to fight. I will not comply, I will not surrender, I refuse to die out

I will never be a part of them, and I’m ok with it

anyways, enough with the rambling. Anyone else feel like they have been discriminated because of their ethnicity/ skin color/ differences? Just cuz we are different doesn’t mean we are monsters
 
Anytime one is a minority in one or more identifiable traits, they are at risk of differential treatment... just because some people can be and are mean to those who are different. (though sometimes being different will attract curiosity instead)

If you do a search for "minority" you'll find a number of prior discussions on this.

I think the main thing is that as long as you're comfortable with who you are, and you being who you are isn't impeding upon anyone else's liberties or otherwise illegal, that you should be free and proud to be yourself.

That being said, there are times where it may be better to blend in with the crowd than to stand out.
 
Anytime one is a minority in one or more identifiable traits, they are at risk of differential treatment... just because some people can be and are mean to those who are different. (though sometimes being different will attract curiosity instead)

If you do a search for "minority" you'll find a number of prior discussions on this.

I think the main thing is that as long as you're comfortable with who you are, and you being who you are isn't impeding upon anyone else's liberties or otherwise illegal, that you should be free and proud to be yourself.

That being said, there are times where it may be better to blend in with the crowd than to stand out.

right on. Currently work on self acceptance

while I’m comfortable with who I am, I can do better
 
I do not think I have ever been discriminated against, yet, when I was isolated, lonely, without social skills, I was treated differently by people some of whom said hurtful things as if I was too dumb to understand them and despite them never being my equal intellectually or in high-risk personal sports.
 
I do not think I have ever been discriminated against, yet, when I was isolated, lonely, without social skills, I was treated differently by people some of whom said hurtful things as if I was too dumb to understand them and despite them never being my equal intellectually or in high-risk personal sports.

honestly NTs are the ones who’s dumb. I find out that people don’t like those who are intellectual. When I’m smarter than others, they don’t like it
 
I've never felt like anyone was actively discriminating against me, but I have felt like I was being treated as an inconvenience and an annoyance to people.
 
I mentioned this incident briefly in another thread, but now I’ll go into the details about a fairly recent time when I felt discriminated against (forgive me for a rather long post).

I’ve mentioned here before that I identify as polyamorous. In October 2021 I started attending a polyamory Meetup. They would meet for picnics in a park. I was hoping to make some friends and/or maybe even find someone (or a few people) to have a relationship with. I always acted friendly when I socialized and people seemed nice.

When I wasn’t there, and met with my speech therapist, she gave me some tips on how to act there – how not to look “weird” or “creepy” – like not staring at people or standing by people waiting for them to notice me. She also suggested not walking around the place waiting for a good moment to start talking to someone. I tried to apply those suggestions when I was there. Nobody ever seemed to show any negative feelings towards me – certainly none that would appear obvious.

Then at my 4th time with the group, there were a group of women walking to the restroom. I needed to use the restroom, too, and I didn’t quite know where it was, so I walked with them. It simply never occurred to me that following them to the restroom would make them feel uncomfortable. When I arrived my 5th time with the group, one of the organizers said that people had been complaining about me. She mentioned the incident of my following the women to the restroom, and that I was standing too close to people. She also mentioned that people were trying to give signals that they wanted to stop conversing with me and I kept on going. That certainly had me shaken because I know all about my various kinds of behavior that I’m often unaware of and that other people may find undesirable. I’m certainly not good at reading body language. I do better with verbal signals. Like if someone told me I was standing too close I would have backed up. So at my 6th time with the group I disclosed to the organizer that I’m autistic. She seemed to understand – she said her brother’s autistic, and that she was just trying to be helpful with her feedback and not to chastise me. That day seemed to go quite nice.

But the following week I got a message from one of the organizers that they got more complaints from people, and they removed me from the group. They said they don’t have the ability to provide support to me necessary to address the apparent foibles while ensuring others are not impacted. And that the only condition for me to return is for me to have a support person to attend with me. That was plainly ableist discrimination!

There’s an organization I’m part of that provides support and services to autistic people. I told my personal advocate about it, and she had a meeting with one of the organizers about it. She said they said one of the participants complained that I touched her leg and when she got up to go somewhere else she thought I was following her. That sounds completely false. If I did touch someone’s leg it was an accident. But I can’t see how that could have happened without my noticing it. I also don’t remember following anyone that day. It could be that I got up to talk to someone else and walked in the same direction, or I was walking around and simply passed this person. My personal advocate said the organizer said that they understood I meant no harm, but their policy is that they take all complaints seriously, and that anyone who gets 2 complaints from people gets removed from the group. I was told this issue could be revisited in 6 months, but I don’t know if it would be worth it. Even if I gave in and started coming with a support person, people might still complain about me and I’d get removed again. So maybe what happened is a best case scenario and I should just say screw the group.
 
I mentioned this incident briefly in another thread, but now I’ll go into the details about a fairly recent time when I felt discriminated against (forgive me for a rather long post).

I’ve mentioned here before that I identify as polyamorous. In October 2021 I started attending a polyamory Meetup. They would meet for picnics in a park. I was hoping to make some friends and/or maybe even find someone (or a few people) to have a relationship with. I always acted friendly when I socialized and people seemed nice.

When I wasn’t there, and met with my speech therapist, she gave me some tips on how to act there – how not to look “weird” or “creepy” – like not staring at people or standing by people waiting for them to notice me. She also suggested not walking around the place waiting for a good moment to start talking to someone. I tried to apply those suggestions when I was there. Nobody ever seemed to show any negative feelings towards me – certainly none that would appear obvious.

Then at my 4th time with the group, there were a group of women walking to the restroom. I needed to use the restroom, too, and I didn’t quite know where it was, so I walked with them. It simply never occurred to me that following them to the restroom would make them feel uncomfortable. When I arrived my 5th time with the group, one of the organizers said that people had been complaining about me. She mentioned the incident of my following the women to the restroom, and that I was standing too close to people. She also mentioned that people were trying to give signals that they wanted to stop conversing with me and I kept on going. That certainly had me shaken because I know all about my various kinds of behavior that I’m often unaware of and that other people may find undesirable. I’m certainly not good at reading body language. I do better with verbal signals. Like if someone told me I was standing too close I would have backed up. So at my 6th time with the group I disclosed to the organizer that I’m autistic. She seemed to understand – she said her brother’s autistic, and that she was just trying to be helpful with her feedback and not to chastise me. That day seemed to go quite nice.

But the following week I got a message from one of the organizers that they got more complaints from people, and they removed me from the group. They said they don’t have the ability to provide support to me necessary to address the apparent foibles while ensuring others are not impacted. And that the only condition for me to return is for me to have a support person to attend with me. That was plainly ableist discrimination!

There’s an organization I’m part of that provides support and services to autistic people. I told my personal advocate about it, and she had a meeting with one of the organizers about it. She said they said one of the participants complained that I touched her leg and when she got up to go somewhere else she thought I was following her. That sounds completely false. If I did touch someone’s leg it was an accident. But I can’t see how that could have happened without my noticing it. I also don’t remember following anyone that day. It could be that I got up to talk to someone else and walked in the same direction, or I was walking around and simply passed this person. My personal advocate said the organizer said that they understood I meant no harm, but their policy is that they take all complaints seriously, and that anyone who gets 2 complaints from people gets removed from the group. I was told this issue could be revisited in 6 months, but I don’t know if it would be worth it. Even if I gave in and started coming with a support person, people might still complain about me and I’d get removed again. So maybe what happened is a best case scenario and I should just say screw the group.
Seeing how capricious and biased the group appears I would not want to associate with them. I started to learn how to socialize belonging to Sierra Club outings. Little quirks in behavior were tolerated, and what was valued, skills (Backpacking, Canoeing for me), were things I was good at. That gave me a lot of confidence, and I was maturing socially. Then fate had me bump into a woman who wanted to meet a man she could enjoy outdoor recreation with. We are still going, 45 years later, and organize and lead outings for our bike club in all seasons. Three weeks ago we lured people out by offering a tailgate spead of fresh bagels and various cream cheeses, bacon, coffee and hot cocoa.
 
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Where are you located?

State of Mississippi, USA. Practiced law for 35+ years in both Mississippi and Louisiana. Some male attorneys and judges have ego problems when faced with competent female attorneys. Black people can be very racist toward white people and sometimes don't even attempt to conceal it.
 
State of Mississippi, USA. Practiced law for 35+ years in both Mississippi and Louisiana. Some male attorneys and judges have ego problems when faced with competent female attorneys. Black people can be very racist toward white people and sometimes don't even attempt to conceal it.

while everyone is racist towards Asians. It’s a sad reality. I just have to focus on myself and tune out the noises
 
Something I like to tell people about discrimination: "You could be next."

That's the thing about bigots, they will eventually find a reason to attack me. It could be my hair, clothes, the way I talk, or something related to autism, it doesn't matter, they will find something.

Today, they attack someone else because of their race. Tomorrow, they could find a reason to attack me. It might not be as bad as out and out racism, but they will find something.
 
Black people can be very racist toward white people and sometimes don't even attempt to conceal it.
Unfortunately, that’s one of the consequences of living in a racist society. People of color have been hurt by White people so many times they learn not to trust White people.
 
Unfortunately, that’s one of the consequences of living in a racist society. People of color have been hurt by White people so many times they learn not to trust White people.

If it were that simple, then women should never trust men, men should never trust women, no race should ever trust another race, nations should never trust other nations, etc. The inclination to be cruel, discriminatory, greedy and violent has no racial boundaries and can never be excused or justified.
 

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