French scientists have found where autism hides in the brain – and it could help diagnose 2yo kids

[Vinca]

It's alright. You're just missing [/ on the quote.

There are uniquely female aspie problems? What are some examples, I haven't heard of that before. And why wouldn't male support work for us?

The information in the following link seems relevant to the theme of the questions you have asked.

http://www.aane.org/about_asperger_syndrome/asperger_syndrome_females.html

 

[Beverly]

I think that too many people still hold views similar to my father about females. We are, according to them, naturally slow witted, emotionally over reactive, and either terribly shy or jabber mouths. We are supposed to learn slower, cry, scream, throw tantrums more and, either hardly talk at all or, talk incessantly.

That presumption is enough to mask any thought that we might be on the spectrum when we are younger, so unless we are fairly low functioning, we go unnoticed. By the time we are teen, it's all blamed on hormones and teen drama, or we are diagnosed with Bipolar, BPD or Depression and given meds for that.

By the time we are adults, we have some Dx in our records and, it's difficult to convince anyone to look beyond that, to think that might be in error and, something else is going on with us. By now, eve we ourselves may assume the Dx is correct and never seek anything further, just assume we're female with that problem so, that's how it is.

In general, people find it easier to dismiss the outwardly displayed aspects of ASD in females as something else, or just being female than they can dismiss the same things in males.

 

[Jonathan Lees]

Statistics seem to vary a lot and I think that's because men are less likely to be taken seriously as it's seen as something women are the victims of.

you are of course right statistics vary and none are wholly accurate, i don't think any of us can really say for certain, all we can say is abuse exists and it shouldn't. in my experience women suffer from abuse more than men however, my last two girlfriends had suffered abuse in the past before me (its kind of disgusting we live in a world where it is so common).

There's plenty of awareness of women, but no awareness of the other half. Men suffer in silence. I don't think that's fair.

i totally agree as i said there needs to be more awareness of the fact men are abused in relationships as well, and people need to be helpful if someone finds them in this situation rather than laughing at it and not taking it seriously. it is not fair as it currently stands.

And isn't it possible they're not being taken seriously because they simply just don't have Asperger's?

yes of course it is possible and is probably the case a lot of the time, but different attitudes to female Asperger's and its diagnosis could partly explain the difference in diagnosis between the genders as to me it seems odd for there to be so many more male aspies than female ones (though of course this may legitimately be the case).

thanks for the references ill look through them, i have really enjoyed talking/debating and you seem to be a very logical (though that should go without saying considering Asperger's) and sensible, im a bit conscious that we are kind of hijacking the thread so if you want to talk more about this or any other topics then feel free to message me as i would love to talk more.

 

[unsurewhattoname]

The information in the following link seems relevant to the theme of the questions you have asked.

http://www.aane.org/about_asperger_syndrome/asperger_syndrome_females.html

Thank you, that was interesting, I wasn't diagnosed until I was an adult and everyone thought I was just shy. However I don't enjoy friendships, I prefer being alone and I'm introverted not extroverted, nor would I be a good parent. My interests come into the "anything goes" category. I was up at 03:00 browsing the differences in driving licenses across Europe and the catchment area for all the rivers in England. Why? I have no idea. That's what me, at 3 in the morning, thought was interesting.

 

[Jonathan Lees]

The information in the following link seems relevant to the theme of the questions you have asked.

http://www.aane.org/about_asperger_syndrome/asperger_syndrome_females.html

thanks for this i knew female aspies suffered differently than us male aspies but i was struggling to list the differences as im of course a guy and therefor cant really understand what it is like to be a female aspie. i see vinca that you are from the uk, where abouts im living in Leicester right now for university.

I think that too many people still hold views similar to my father about females. We are, according to them, naturally slow witted, emotionally over reactive, and either terribly shy or jabber mouths. We are supposed to learn slower, cry, scream, throw tantrums more and, either hardly talk at all or, talk incessantly.

That presumption is enough to mask any thought that we might be on the spectrum when we are younger, so unless we are fairly low functioning, we go unnoticed. By the time we are teen, it's all blamed on hormones and teen drama, or we are diagnosed with Bipolar, BPD or Depression and given meds for that.

By the time we are adults, we have some Dx in our records and, it's difficult to convince anyone to look beyond that, to think that might be in error and, something else is going on with us. By now, eve we ourselves may assume the Dx is correct and never seek anything further, just assume we're female with that problem so, that's how it is.

In general, people find it easier to dismiss the outwardly displayed aspects of ASD in females as something else, or just being female than they can dismiss the same things in males.

totally agree, i think the younger generations (like my millennial one) is better generally in views towards women but that being said i have been surprised by some of the sexist and misogynistic views held by some of my peers (thankfully rare). and I've heard that the situation you have described above quite a lot so i imagine it is fairly common and this is unfair and needs to change (we need more awareness of female aspies).

 

[zurb]

Interesting article.
Simple reason for using male children as the subjects - they are the easiest to obtain (I'm not saying there are no female aspies, just that there are fewer diagnosed).
Also, adding gender into the equation would have added another variable into the research, making it harder to make any conclusions. But a followup study would need to be done to confirm if it is true in females too. As females in general tend to be better at communication, the results are unlikely to be as dramatic.