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Happy Earth Day!

Yeshuasdaughter said:
Since I am the OP, I'm the lady of the house and I get to be a little bossy. Pro Choice goes both ways, my friends! Instead of butting in peoples' lives, telling people to have less children....
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Gerald wasn't telling people to have less children, he was saying that this is what he had done. I'm not telling people to have less children, but I am saying that it is factually accurate that this is an excellent way to reduce the environmental impact of the human species. That has nothing to do with eugenics, it's simply an ecological fact. It's one of the choices available to people if they want to reduce harm to non-human species (as is not overeating animal products, and reining in general resource and energy consumption). And...we are both biologists.

Saying what we have done or what are some ecological facts is not "butting in people's lives, telling people to have less children" - it's stating our own choices and the reasons for those choices - and I don't feel that everyone has to do it like we've done it.
 
Yeshuasdaughter said:
It's alright @Callistemon , It wasn't about Gerald, it was just me expressing myself too, after a group of people made a side conversation.

In fact, @Gerald Wilgus is my homie. I actually owe him one for a past favor. He's the man.
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Thank you. I think people here recognize that I am pro choice and respect theirs. Not having children, my spouse and i frequently borrowed nieces and nephews to take them on adventures. One niece, a bright young woman now, is very adventurous and I love her dearly, like a daughter.
 
Yeshuasdaughter said:
We can all fit into Texas, anyway. And with desalination tech, and if we shared resources, and better provided resources for upward mobility for the poorest, man, everyone would have plenty.
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We may all fit physically into Texas, but the human population is already causing such extensive ecological damage as it is that the planetary support systems are collapsing, and this is causing incredible distress and consternation amongst ecological professionals, myself and Gerald included.

I agree with you that wealth inequality is a huge issue, but plenty for everyone (AKA humans) continues to mean less and less and less for wildlife - because we share a finite planet with each other, and every other species.

Peace & love to all.
 
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Gerald Wilgus said:
Thank you. I think people here recognize that I am pro choice and respect theirs. Not having children, my spouse and i frequently borrowed nieces and nephews to take them on adventures. One niece, a bright young woman now, is very adventurous and I love her dearly, like a daughter.
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When I was considering whether or not to have children, I talked to my mother. She had 5 children over the course of about 25 years. My older brother and youngest sister never lived in the same home because of the age range between them. She looked me squarely in the face and bluntly said "you don't need to have children to be happy in life". She knew what she was talking about!
 
See the tree how big it's grown...

My mind went back to
Earth Day 1965- McGregor Elementary School, Springfield, MO- 3rd Grade.

The class planted this Dogwood tree. Only about 1 ft tall at the time.
It will never grow to be a huge tree. Dogwoods just don't.
Surprised to see it is still there. Fifty-nine years old.

McGregorDogwood.webp

Happy Earth Day.
 
I have 29 acres.

My avocation is experimenting to see how many useful bio molecules I can extract, while simultaneously improving the natural environment by encouraging native wildlife to flourish.

My user name, TBRS1, stands for "Terran Biological Research Station 1," a nod to this thing I do.

IMHO - Nothing I do will save the planet, but if the planet is going to be saved for humans, more people are going to have to learn to do this.
 
TBRS1 said:
I have 29 acres.

My avocation is experimenting to see how many useful bio molecules I can extract, while simultaneously improving the natural environment by encouraging native wildlife to flourish.

My user name, TBRS1, stands for "Terran Biological Research Station 1," a nod to this thing I do.

IMHO - Nothing I do will save the planet, but if the planet is going to be saved for humans, more people are going to have to learn to do this.
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Nice. I get more fundamental. In two weeks I am leading a team on a local river doing insect surveys to measure its health. I will take what we have sampled and identify down to family level to calculate the Hilsenhof Biologic Index. I have created control charts to identify changes in river quality at the earliest possible time. I enjoy having children on my team because they are usually interested and excited about the various insects we collect.
 
Gerald Wilgus said:
Nice. I get more fundamental. In two weeks I am leading a team on a local river doing insect surveys to measure its health. I will take what we have sampled and identify down to family level to calculate the Hilsenhof Biologic Index. I have created control charts to identify changes in river quality at the earliest possible time. I enjoy having children on my team because they are usually interested and excited about the various insects we collect.
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That sounds quite fun.

I wonder if the local community college has something like that I can take part in.

How did you learn about the opportunity?
 
TBRS1 said:
That sounds quite fun.

I wonder if the local community college has something like that I can take part in.

How did you learn about the opportunity?
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I learned about this when my local Conservation District started the program under the auspices of the Michigan Clean Water Corps thirteen years ago. I created a worksheet which sorts the families from Low tolerance for pollutants/diminished oxygen/warm temps to high tolerance and calculates a Chi-squared value based on their frequencies in the sample. Changes would be evident.

A community college is a good place to start, or look for any Conservation offices near you. It is satisfying citizen science and I always thank participants and point out how valuable their work is because data costs money. You will learn a lot about insect larvae and stream habitat.
 
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tlc said:
Tomorrow we will be doing this at work (if it doesn’t rain). My company pays the registration fees for any employee who wants to do it.

https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/places/state-parks/happy-little-trees

At home I’m on 9 acres, 5 of it undisturbed woods, and most of the rest is strategically placed pine trees.
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Nice. I live on 40 acres and have been working hard. I eliminated spotted knapweed on a few acres that go down to a pond and have planted in prairie grasses. There is a turtle that moved into the pond and laid eggs. Now that it is warming up I will check on that. Here, hatchlings spend the winter in the nest to emerge in the following spring.
 
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