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GypsyMoth

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Hi All,

I'm here hoping to learn a little more about autism. I initially began learning about it to learn how to be a better friend to a good friend of mine in IRL who has it. Since then, I’ve had a number of experiences that have motivated me to learn more.

For example, earlier this summer--and following a many-hour drive--we stopped in at a relative’s home. [No, he’s not diagnosed, yes, he’s on the spectrum. It’s a family consensus and we make allowances for it.] Anyway, a bunch of us were going somewhere and we stopped in to bring him along. Well, he wanted to show me something on his computer. He does wonderful CADD drawings—I appreciate that. I also considered that I knew his “it’ll only be a minute” meant that the six of us would still be standing there in his cramped little computer room, squished in should-to-shoulder, listening to his detailed narration for the next four hours. I don’t think the room had A/C. Besides, where we were going was closing soon. So I said something like, "I'm really sorry, but we don't have time today. Maybe later. We're on a schedule." And I walked out. And then the next person walked out. And then someone else said to him, "come on, if we don't get there soon, we'll miss the last tour!" Well, we all left and managed to bring him along, too. Which all seems very benign on the surface, but I got stink-eye from him for the rest of the evening. (Yeah, the stink-eye was deserved. I tend to be the initiative-taker in the family, so he pegged that right.) Generally, I get two thumbs up from my family for my skill in dealing with him, but I didn't win any awards that day. I try to end on positives—but that day did not. Since then, I've been trying to learn how I could have handled that better.

I have a highly creative family--several engineers, a couple of inventors, a professional artist (everyone draws quite well or plays multiple instruments). We even a certified germaphobe who we love and appreciate. (Different person than above. Trust me, no offense meant or taken! He'll actually remind you about what kinds of germs you're bringing into the house if you leave your shoes on or how much oil your touch leaves behind on things that are clean, and so on, so no, germaphobe in our family is rather a term of endearment.) I'm not so creative; I don't draw or play an instrument, and I hate math; my only claim to fame are two MA's. But as to my quest... I've now taken every single free, online autism test there is--aspie, EQ, SQ, RAADS-R, TEQ, TAS, ESQ, RBQ-2. No, not compulsive--just thorough. (I'm a strong INTJ-A. Think, bull in a china cabinet. Don't worry--I'm not here to confront anything except my own ignorance.) Then the other week, I was watching my brother as we visited (he’s in his thirties), and…something clicked. Now I’m thinking his ADHD may be a misdiagnosis.

However, since I have been reading up on autism for some time now and finally think I know something about it, I am not surprised at being able to identify many autistic traits within my family. And no, I’m not aspie myself—I’ve read that a professional psychologist would adjust my scores down by up to 30%, whereupon the scores would drop well into the neurotypical range. (Besides, we know a disabilities specialist and apparently my husband already asked him that. His answer? “Everybody’s got some traits.” So, no.) But I have been wrestling with some things of my own that may be the result of my own traits getting in the way. It’s kind of like running into a brick wall.

What began as a simple ‘how can I be a better friend’ endeavor became a mission to deal better with a difficult family member (sorry—no offense intended by saying he's 'difficult'--he'd say the same of me), which now has morphed into a ‘hey, maybe these folks have some answers I need!’ quest.

So, here I am. Hi!
 
Hi and welcome. I don't want to assume that because you used the term husband you are female, you may be another gender, but if female the phenotype is thought to be a bit different, plus women tend to learn to mask better, and to be taught or expected to listen and be more passive, a communication helper. These differences have made it slow to be recognised that women have autism too, or for women to meet diagnostic criteria, this doesn't mean that you are not neurodiverse or possibly ASD1, same might apply to non typical males who are quiet and learn to listen or be passive as children, they would be unlikely to be noticed and diagnosed. Try Jessica Kingsley publishers catalogue for texts by women with Autism and clinicians about this, plus many other relevant texts.

Earlier generations didn't get diagnosed, so plenty of us here. I self diagnosed in the absence of a need for an official diagnosis, ASD 1 is a neurological difference not a mental health concern. But some with ASD1 may have other mental health issues. Anxiety is common, but I tend to think that's natural if your brain functions differently and others don't know that's even a thing, which is more typical than your enlightened view. In a way your behaviour to your Aspie relative sounds, a bit direct, logical and unemotional, fits with being on the spectrum. No pressure.

Wow a lot of engineers in your family. Typical Aspie occupation. Ditto inventors. Creativity isn't unusual here either.

It's good that you are here. Plenty of interesting threads and resources, plus discussions to join or start.
 
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Welcome to the forums. I think you did the right thing to cut his special interest time short to take him with you. Nothing wrong with family members teaching him behavioral limits needed to have a social life.
 
Welcome to the forums. I think you did the right thing to cut his special interest time short to take him with you. Nothing wrong with family members teaching him behavioral limits needed to have a social life.
Agree wholeheartedly. Learning our limits about imposing upon people is a lesson we have all had to learn.
 
Wow. Interesting family. My step-father was a civil engineer. My half-brothet is a computer geek.

It sounds like you kind of hold the family together. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Oh yeah- welcome to the forum. :)
 
@Thinx, thanks for the warm welcome! I really appreciate your comments and thoughtful hello. Some further thoughts...
...These differences have made it slow to be recognised that women have autism too, or for women to meet diagnostic criteria, ...
... this tells me there are underlying cultural conditions that negatively affect testing. (Also, I know women's health has languished behind the amount of research that has gone into men's health, so no surprise there.)

Try Jessica Kingsley publishers catalogue for texts by women with Autism and clinicians about this, plus many other relevant texts.
Thanks for the resource; I will.

...In a way your behaviour to your Aspie relative sounds, a bit direct, logical and unemotional, fits with being on the spectrum. No pressure.
None taken.

Wow a lot of engineers in your family. Typical Aspie occupation. Ditto inventors. Creativity isn't unusual here either.

It's good that you are here. Plenty of interesting threads and resources, plus discussions to join or start.
Thanks, I was --and this won't help my position that I'm not on the spectrum-- anxious about joining. I am really hoping to learn more and grow from this.
 
Tbh that made my brain hurt. ;)
Sorry! Brevity is not my strong point.
What exactly are you hoping to learn?
While I haven't read a lot of the posts here, what I have read shows a lot of grace and kindness towards each other in working through things. Here's what I'm working through: I am job searching for the first time in fifteen years. In a way, I feel as though I'm running up against a brick wall. I'm expecting to take lower-level work, which I can easily step into, for the trade-off that down the road I may eventually step into something that either better reflects my education or aim to become self-employed. I was bullied a lot at my last job and I do not want to end up in that scenario again. What I'm hoping to learn here is how to get out of my own way so that I can be successful. You all seem to have a handle on how to deal with the things I struggle with and what that is looks to me a lot like self-acceptance, that maybe there are things you shouldn't change about yourself. So, this is the best of what I am hoping to learn.
 
Sorry! Brevity is not my strong point.

While I haven't read a lot of the posts here, what I have read shows a lot of grace and kindness towards each other in working through things. Here's what I'm working through: I am job searching for the first time in fifteen years. In a way, I feel as though I'm running up against a brick wall. I'm expecting to take lower-level work, which I can easily step into, for the trade-off that down the road I may eventually step into something that either better reflects my education or aim to become self-employed. I was bullied a lot at my last job and I do not want to end up in that scenario again. What I'm hoping to learn here is how to get out of my own way so that I can be successful. You all seem to have a handle on how to deal with the things I struggle with and what that is looks to me a lot like self-acceptance, that maybe there are things you shouldn't change about yourself. So, this is the best of what I am hoping to learn.

Everybody is welcomed at this forum. @tree is an excellent and very knowledgeable moderator along with @cig114 . And sometimes @Nitro will step in and tackle any issues we have as forum members, like falling into a rabbit hole or a troll hole. Lol
 
Sorry! Brevity is not my strong point.

While I haven't read a lot of the posts here, what I have read shows a lot of grace and kindness towards each other in working through things. Here's what I'm working through: I am job searching for the first time in fifteen years. In a way, I feel as though I'm running up against a brick wall. I'm expecting to take lower-level work, which I can easily step into, for the trade-off that down the road I may eventually step into something that either better reflects my education or aim to become self-employed. I was bullied a lot at my last job and I do not want to end up in that scenario again. What I'm hoping to learn here is how to get out of my own way so that I can be successful. You all seem to have a handle on how to deal with the things I struggle with and what that is looks to me a lot like self-acceptance, that maybe there are things you shouldn't change about yourself. So, this is the best of what I am hoping to learn.

Ah ok. Can you think of an easier thing to want to learn?

Just kidding. ;) But not about the hard part. I will think a little first.
 
@Thinx, thanks for the warm welcome! I really appreciate your comments and thoughtful hello. Some further thoughts...

... this tells me there are underlying cultural conditions that negatively affect testing. (Also, I know women's health has languished behind the amount of research that has gone into men's health, so no surprise there.)


Thanks for the resource; I will.


None taken.


Thanks, I was --and this won't help my position that I'm not on the spectrum-- anxious about joining. I am really hoping to learn more and grow from this.
Hi and Welcome @GypsyMoth
You have come to a good place to learn. Do hang about for a while, follow the new threads, new posts but also have a look at some of the older thread. Lots of experience there
 
Hi and welcome! It's always comforting to see people come on here to learn, instead of just jumping to their own conclusions!
 
Wow, thanks everyone for the warm replies. It really means a lot. I'm looking forward to getting to know you all more and as @Alexej recommended, reading some of the older threads, too.

A quick question. If I find something I want to ask about or comment on in the older threads, what is your policy on reviving dormant docs? Thanks!
 
The thing about those of us on the spectrum is we are as different individually as those who are not on the spectrum. Put two of us in a room and we are as likely to get along as any two people not on the spectrum (i.e. you roll the dice and hope). There is nothing akin to one size fits all. We all pick up our likes, dislikes, and traits the same as anyone else: We take on what we like and reject what we have no time or will to engage with on any level.

Being willing to learn more is always a good thing, once you have the interest. Welcome here, and may you find a few answers along the way.

As far as seemingly dormant threads, I have seen some of those resurrected in my time here. You post something in any thread that is not locked by admin and everyone has the ability to see it and respond if they are so moved.
 
Welcome! :)

I will try to help you out to the best of my abilities. It’s great that you’re here to learn, and you might learn some things about yourself too in the process! :)

I hope you enjoy it here. We’re pretty friendly, for the most part.
 

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