Then the argument starts getting intense, where one person has to rub it in by saying "This is not good at all. So the longest job you've ever held was for two months in several years? What did you do during those four years of unemployment? Further your education, take community classes? How do you support yourself?
I think it's time you take stock of yourself and do something to prove to any employer that you've got some gumption to move ahead. Obviously you're somehow able to get by without an income. With all that free time on your hands you should start thinking about taking some classes NOW to make up for the four years you seem to have wasted. In four years you could have taken classes and learned a trade but it's never too late to start. Move onward!"
"I don't think a bad reference from Target is hurting you. You're in your mid-twenties and your longest job lasted three months and you can't put it on applications because you were fired, that could be what is hurting you.
What has been suggested in the past for people who lack necessary job experience is to volunteer. You can put volunteer experience on your resume and it will look better than nothing.
Also why did you spend four years at a community college and not obtain a degree? An associate degree is a two year degree."
"Your whole attitude is one of anger and resentment and entitlement which is not going to further you in the job market. Even if the job market were strong, your complete lack of experience (one job lasting two months in four plus years) hardly makes you stand out and particularly not now when degreed applicants are fighting for even entry level positions. Four years at a community college and you didn't even come out with a degree of any kind at all? Do you seriously think that this sort of record makes you a viable candidate?
As I said before, you've obviously managed to get by with no income for literally years so somebody is supporting you. Maybe you should be putting your energy into learning a trade (you could even get someone to take you on as an unpaid apprentice) instead of moaning about how lousy all employers are and expecting that they're all supposed to cosset you."
Then I respond by saying "In life there is always a first time for everything, how does anyone expect to gain experience if nobody will give them a chance?"
Then one of those people say "You had four years to accomplish something. What did you do at community college? How did you manage to come out of four years of community college with nothing to show for it? For some reason you seem reluctant to answer those questions but keep coming back to the same disgruntled whining anger directed towards other people."
Then I say "well just because a person made mistakes in the past does not mean they will do it again in the future, people can change, thats what angers me, pisses me off, an applicants past matters so much to an employer, and yes i will look into that, so what are other great ways to gain experience if for an entry-level job if you don't have any?"
Then that other person says, pisses me off, "Before I leave this thread shaking my head in disgust, I'll repeat a suggestion I made earlier. Take on a position as an apprentice with someone in a trade, even if you're not paid for a while, apply yourself and learn something useful. Prove to yourself, to your parents and to prospective future employers, that you actually can apply yourself to something instead of quitting. Nobody gives a rat's ass that you're angry and pissed off with the world in general, and the perpetual litany is boring and unproductive."
Somebody else says "OK, lets hire this 20 something kid that went to community college for 4 years without anything to show for it and has extremely limited work history! Well skip over everyone else that actually applied themselves in both work and school, maybe have their 4 year degree and most likely worked full time while getting it.
Maybe set your sights at employment lower (grocery store bagger? ), show you're a hard worker (which is much more than showing up on time and looking good), and after six months or so of hard work, start applying at homedepot etc if that's what you want."
I actually would take a grocery store bagging position, i would take that kind of a job, but even those places are very picky, choosy on who they hire, give interviews too, will pick the person with experience over the inexperienced person
"Or it could be because he spent four years in junior college without earning a degree" why does a college degree matter so much to an entry-level job? thats what pisses me off, why does it matter to minimum-wage jobs?
I then say again "In life there is always a first time for everything, how does anyone expect to gain experience if nobody will give you a chance, thats the part that pisses me off the most", then that doucebag says "In your case, too bad. You've had ample opportunity to improve your lot (years, in fact) but have frittered away time wallowing in your sense of entitlement and letting your parents foot the bills. Best you grow up or shut up because everything has already been said"
Another person says "Exactly. The "first time for everything" opportunity comes when you're in your teens, not your twenties"
They then say "You can't change the past, but you are held accountable for what you did in the past.
Waiting so long to get a job and spending enough time in college to obtain a bachelors degree, yet not earning anything has put you at a disadvantage and set you back. Now it's up to you to make up for it. You've been given some good suggestions, it's time to act on them and ditch the victim mentality"
Why does a place such as McDonald's, Movie Theaters, Retail Jobs, why does it matter if you have a College Degree when those places do not require a college degree?
they also say "We see these posters over and over again. People (seems to be mostly guys in this forum) in their twenties who have never had a job for longer than a couple months and have just realized that they're screwed. And they blame everyone but themselves for their problems. It seems like their parents have done a lot of enabling if they're just going to let their adult kids live this way" and why is blaming other people for your own problems immature, seen as pathetic? Thats a true fact in life, overall, the whole point is that what pisses me off, angers me, frustrates me the most is that employers want applicants to have experience but how do you get experience if nobody will give you a chance? there is always a first time for everything, and why does it matter when that person got that experience?
Just look to what looks most reasonable.
