I can't vent or else it's gossping?

[Emor]

I wasn't the only non-Admin who thought the thread should be locked. Even Chair who created it said it should be locked.
EMZ=/

 

[benjimanbreeg]

I'm not sure chair is the best judge :| you've seen the kind of sites he runs

 

[Kit]

I thought that was pretty silly, that the name making thread got locked, just cause Emz threw her toys out the pram. It was just a bit of fun. Hardly bullying. And sinsboldly is the bully.

Apparently sticking up for yourself is bullying and being a hypocrite according to Emz :whistle:


I don't take **** from people and I like to make sure everyone knows about it. Don't mess with Beth. If that makes me the bully and a gossiper, so be it. I guess those people are just as bad as them and they are pissed they can't mess with me or else they be it. Same as they don't want people venting about them to anyone. So they rather say I am gossip girl or the bully. That makes sense now after analyzing this. Just be nice to people period and this issue won't happen. There be no "gossip" and "bullying."

 

[gamers1700]

Actually, the reason why it got locked was because a bunch of us started talking to Chris about how a lack of rules was negatively affecting the site. After a VERY brief discussion Chris and Willow decided that it should be locked on account of it being blatantly against the newly imposed rules. So in fact, it was a fallout of the rules and not Emor's fault. It would be pretty scary if one person had the power to lock a thread they don't agree with, even Willow and Chris don't do that.

 

[Emor]

You know what LeagueGirl, that's just juvenile.
You're taking what I said out of context.
I think bitching about another member being mean to you, is mean(making you a hypocrite). When everyone bitches about another member being horrible and what not, then it is a form of bullying, and you're contributing to the bullying, and thus, that does indeed make you a bully.
Call it sticking up for yourself if you want. But it's not like she was being openly critical of you here, and you didn't give her a chance to say her side of the story(not telling her I class as not giving her a chance). And even if she was unfair, you totally 'milked it', as my brother would say. The amount of crap you said about her, and damaged her reputation, relative to what she did to you personally(ban you), you're the one in the wrong.
Honestly, I don't have that big a problem with you. But when you're going to start making personal attacks at me then yeah, I'm going to get pissed off.
EMZ.

 

[Changeling]

I know I have lot of support here and if the mods here think I am a gossip box, then they would not be good friends for me and I wouldn't trust them for support if they are going to think this of me. Just shows how misunderstood I am.

MHO you misunderstand your own motivations and intentions but they are painfully evident to others.

 

[Kit]

I know I have lot of support here and if the mods here think I am a gossip box, then they would not be good friends for me and I wouldn't trust them for support if they are going to think this of me. Just shows how misunderstood I am.

MHO you misunderstand your own motivations and intentions but they are painfully evident to others.

How do you know what the mods think of me? Do you talk to them or something? All of my friends have been in support of me and heard me out. Only you and EMZ have said something about it.

Shall I make a thread now asking when does venting become gossiping? Maybe I should. It doesn't help to put me down when I am down in the dumps than supporting me and trolling me doesn't help but this time your response was better and not nasty. It just makes the person feel worse and it will take them longer to get over it and be back to their old selves.
If you think there are lines drawn to when venting becomes gossiping, why not just point it out than being all sarcastic? Why not just explain it than trolling me? It sure was not helping me getting over all this. Is that what you want? Do you want me to be sad and keep me in this state?


EMZ I was feeling better and getting over it until you had to make that one post and get me started again and it provoked me. I don't need all the accusations. Some friend you are. Instead of just putting me down, why not tell me how I shall be handling this instead than calling me immature or juvenile and saying I am being a bully if you think there is another way? After all you did say you do this sort of thing but you do it to your friends privately while I did this on a forum.


I am feeling better now I don't need to vent as much or express myself because I can wait till my friends are on and I don't feel the need to talk about it as much.

 

[Kit]

You know what LeagueGirl, that's just juvenile.
You're taking what I said out of context.
I think bitching about another member being mean to you, is mean(making you a hypocrite). When everyone bitches about another member being horrible and what not, then it is a form of bullying, and you're contributing to the bullying, and thus, that does indeed make you a bully.
Call it sticking up for yourself if you want. But it's not like she was being openly critical of you here, and you didn't give her a chance to say her side of the story(not telling her I class as not giving her a chance). And even if she was unfair, you totally 'milked it', as my brother would say. The amount of crap you said about her, and damaged her reputation, relative to what she did to you personally(ban you), you're the one in the wrong.
Honestly, I don't have that big a problem with you. But when you're going to start making personal attacks at me then yeah, I'm going to get pissed off.
EMZ.

Then what am I supposed to do about it? Was it wrong for my mom to come home from work and tell my dad about her boss bullying her? What do you do when people are not nice to you? How do you handle it? Do you complain about it to your friends or bottled those feelings up inside you? Was it wrong for me to come home from school and complain about kids pushing me away or making fun of me? It would not have helped if my mom told me "Oh stop bitching about them being mean to you, you are bullying them now by telling me how they treated you."


If you think someone read your post wrong, why not correct them?

 

[Emor]

Then what am I supposed to do about it? Was it wrong for my mom to come home from work and tell my dad about her boss bullying her?No, what would be wrong was if she told everyone at work and the affiliated company that works with the company your Mum's boss was boss of about how her boss mistreated her, without giving him a chance to refute those claims. What do you do when people are not nice to you? How do you handle it? Do you complain about it to your friends or bottled those feelings up inside you? Sorry, does it make me weird I don't get happy from bitching about someone? God. When I'm upset I figure it out my self. Complaining is going to do **** all to solve the problem.Was it wrong for me to come home from school and complain about kids pushing me away or making fun of me?From what I said about your mom, you can apply it to that example It would not have helped if my mom told me "Oh stop bitching about them being mean to you, you are bullying them now by telling me how they treated you." I didn't even say that and wasn't even that harsh. There you go again with taking things out of context. How do you expect me to take anything you say about Sins. seriously when things you say about me are for the most part propaganda? And it's not even the same example. Argh. Stop putting words in my mouth, it's annoying.

If you think someone read your post wrong, why not correct them?I don't think someone read my post wrong. I think someone fabricated my post to their liking to appeal to their argument. You made my post sound irrational and make no sense, and ignored all the foundations for the statements I made. Reading my post wrong? BS.

EMZ.

 

[Kit]

So if I had a problem with someone, I am supposed to tell one person about it, not rant about it to everyone?

I can see why now people talked bad about you in the shout box at the autism forums and I can see why people didn't like you at WP you claimed. You're no help so I know it's not me, it's you. Believe whatever you want of me. I'm done with you. Your post did sound harsh to me in in the locked thread even if you don't think so.

 

[Emor]

Rofl. You actually don't. You're speculating.
You have know freaking idea.
And people don't like me over at WP because I made a controversial editorial(if you want to call it that, that's what people call it) where I was critical of WP and the general nature of support sites. Though I never had a problem in general with most members. I fell out with two members though over something extremely personal.
EMZ.

 

[gamers1700]

LG....you need to think about the content you're posting. This is ridiculous, you are definitely going over the top with your accusations. There is no need to hang even more dirty laundry from another website and call it fact, you're not winning anyone over when you do this. It's just making yourself look bad.

 

[benjimanbreeg]

So if I had a problem with someone, I am supposed to tell one person about it, not rant about it to everyone?

I can see why now people talked bad about you in the shout box at the autism forums and I can see why people didn't like you at WP you claimed. You're no help so I know it's not me, it's you. Believe whatever you want of me. I'm done with you. Your post did sound harsh to me in in the locked thread even if you don't think so.

I think you know better than a bitter little 14 year old anyway, she should be asking you for advice. What you were actually doing was ranting about people that had treated you unfairly. Why wouldn't an aspie rant on a forum? It makes us/them feel better. And gaymers and emz rant all the time about people and the world, so its hypocritical of them to judge you. If they want this place just to be a support forum, then they should realise that people aren't always gonna be talking about how nice roses smell. On that other thread, she didn't say anything constructive, just insults.

 

[142857]

I'm with Benjaminbreeg. Kind of.

Of course he is being a tad harsh on Emor. She is not a bitter little 14 year old. She is idealistic. It is good to be idealistic when you are 14. At the same time I don't think that LG should be taking what an idealistic 14-year-old says so much to heart.

It is okay to vent. There is a line between venting and gossiping, and everyone draws it a little differently. As an example, at my last job the senior management were stupid and incompetent, and everyone on the project who was worth their salt knew that. They were a major source of embarrassment every time they turned up to a meeting with consultants from another company. Now the wise thing to do was to keep your mouth shut about your opinions of them because you really never know who is standing there nodding their head and agreeing with you then reporting everything back to the stupid managers - with a little extra spin added for good measure. This sort of thing happens far more often than you might imagine. But yeah, there were plenty of people who needed to have a vent about them and, under the right circumstances, that was perfectly okay. Those sort of managers don't get "right of reply" or whatever, because giving them that right is the equivalent of saying "take my highly paid job and shove it". :thumbsup: :blink:

Moderators on web forums are pretty similar to that, but without the ridiculous salary. Having a thick skin should be the first prerequisite of being a moderator... however the opposite seems to be more often the case. You can't vent and give them right of reply without getting banned for life, so you get things off your chest in whatever way you can and hopefully feel better afterwards. If you are a moderator and you go around banning people, for whatever reason - rightly or wrongly - people are going to have a bit of a whine about it and call you names. Same as being a manager of a company or whatever: if you want to be a manager and you want the high pay and responsibility that goes along with it, then you need to accept that people are going to complain about you, especially if you are overpaid and stupid.

 

[benjimanbreeg]

Its actually a bit different though, well in most cases I reckon. Cause the actions of sins at WP, were sadistic. And her actions after she was caught were insane. She should be in a mental institution.

 

[gamers1700]

And gaymers and emz rant all the time about people and the world, so its hypocritical of them to judge you. If they want this place just to be a support forum, then they should realise that people aren't always gonna be talking about how nice roses smell.

You can speak for yourself on this one. And I don't recall ranting about people or the world, and when I have ranted it was to someone. Grow up, you're supposed to be older than both of us, yet almost all you do is troll around casting judgments on others that aren't around to defend what you say, and when they are you start childishly throwing names around. I actually pity you for using these tactics.

 

[benjimanbreeg]

You can speak for yourself on this one. And I don't recall ranting about people or the world, and when I have ranted it was to someone. Grow up, you're supposed to be older than both of us, yet almost all you do is troll around casting judgments on others that aren't around to defend what you say, and when they are you start childishly throwing names around. I actually pity you for using these tactics.

Actually your main ranting is about me, and you're "trolling" me, in any thread. Starting for no reason. Its getting boring. Just cause i'm older, doesn't mean people can't get on my wick. You're judging people as well. I'm not really judging, more like saying whats going on. Thanks, I don't really need your pity though. You're more worthy of pity, you spend all day on here, drinking.

 

[gamers1700]

Actually your main ranting is about me, and you're "trolling" me, in any thread. Starting for no reason. Its getting boring. Just cause i'm older, doesn't mean people can't get on my wick. You're judging people as well. I'm not really judging, more like saying whats going on. Thanks, I don't really need your pity though. You're more worthy of pity, you spend all day on here, drinking.

I do think you're far ahead of me on this trolling thing, I can admit to twice or MAYBE three times going out of my way to say something. Otherwise, if I disagree with someone and I am motivated to say something than I will.
'Saying what's going on' is still judging, and I only judge someone if they either asked for an opinion, or have crossed me multiple times. I'm sure irl you're a fine person to be around when there isn't a disagreement, but as far as I'm concerned you're a pain in the ass as far as arguments and judgments go from what I can tell.
Lastly, I don't drink my problems away. In total for the last 6 months, I have probably gotten drunk about 6-8 times, on a 6-pack or split 26er. Besides, there is no universal standard for what people pity. One person's stem for pity might carry a totally different thought to someone else. As it stands, I still pity you for having to think of yourself on a higher plain of function than other people.

 

[benjimanbreeg]

 

[gamers1700]

that made me lol actually
but again, speak for yourself :thumbsup: