If a person is anti-pistachio ice cream are they anti-ice cream?

[Magna]

If a person is against, refrains from eating (anti-) a certain flavor of ice cream but is fine with other flavors, are they against (anti-) all ice cream across the board?

If a person refrains from a single type of vaccine but is fine with other types, are they an "anti-vaxxer"? How?

 

[Fino]

It depends on your reasoning. If you are against that flavor of icecream simply because it is icecream, then you are anti-icecream.

 

[Magna]

It depends on your reasoning. If you are against that flavor of icecream simply because it is icecream, then you are anti-icecream.

You wouldn't be against (all) ice cream if you were fine with consuming other flavors but didn't want to consume pasticio ice cream, you'd be anti-pasticio ice cream.

In other words, a person who liked vanilla, chocolate, strawberry, rum raisin, etc ice creams wouldn't be eating those if they were against ice cream "simply because it is ice cream".

 

[PastelPetals]

You do not risk the safety of you or others if you refrain from eating pistachio ice cream. You are focusing on the semantics while ignoring that the vast majority of deaths and hospitalisations are unvaccinated people (covid vaxx specifically). Maybe we need a more specific term...I am sure we can get to that after we finish burying our dead.

Of course that if we can get to that since the more people getting it the more it mutates. You may never need to get this vaxx as the virus mutates to become worse and worse. You may be dead, stuck with a permanent chronic illness, or maybe you just get to watch as this virus gets worse and the people around you start to drop.

People like you refuse to snuff out the flame so we can all move on. I would care less if the meningitis vaxx or polio vaxx was what you refused. I would not agree but I would not be upset. This is a major issue right in front of you and yet you don't act.

The vaxx is safe. I had pfizer. The first shot I felt soreness in my arm for about two days. The second shot I felt pretty awful for two days but then was ok. My reaction was my immune system learning. Though my sister,mother,my friend did not have more that fatigue and a headache. Nothing bad happened to any of us.

If you choose to be unvaxxed wear a mask and try your best not to leave your home. Don't go grocery shopping or visit family. Don't send your kids to school or do anything that requires being around others. It's best to that safety wise.

I don't like red lights but I am ok with all other traffic signals so i'm not a bad driver!! Maybe some things are not a matter of opinion and more a matter of being a functioning member of society.

 

[Judge]

According to a dictionary explanation (Oxford Languages/Google) of an anti-vaxxer, they are fundamentally opposed to vaccines in general, and do not "cherry-pick" any one or group of vaccines as being acceptable.

/ˌan(t)ēˈvaksər,ˌan(t)īˈvaksər/
noun
informal

"a person who is opposed to vaccination, typically a parent who does not wish to vaccinate their child. "experts say several diseases that are avoidable are making a comeback due to anti-vaxxers who refuse to vaccinate their kids"

So the answer is "no".

As for pistachio ice cream, I doubt there is a comparable dictionary term, but one could still apply similar reasoning to get the same result. That someone who is anti-ice cream would fundamentally reject all flavors without exception.

 

[Magna]

You do not risk the safety of you or others if you refrain from eating pistachio ice cream. You are focusing on the semantics while ignoring that the vast majority of deaths and hospitalisations are unvaccinated people (covid vaxx specifically). Maybe we need a more specific term...I am sure we can get to that after we finish burying our dead.

Of course that if we can get to that since the more people getting it the more it mutates. You may never need to get this vaxx as the virus mutates to become worse and worse. You may be dead, stuck with a permanent chronic illness, or maybe you just get to watch as this virus gets worse and the people around you start to drop.

People like you refuse to snuff out the flame so we can all move on. I would care less if the meningitis vaxx or polio vaxx was what you refused. I would not agree but I would not be upset. This is a major issue right in front of you and yet you don't act.

The vaxx is safe. I had pfizer. The first shot I felt soreness in my arm for about two days. The second shot I felt pretty awful for two days but then was ok. My reaction was my immune system learning. Though my sister,mother,my friend did not have more that fatigue and a headache. Nothing bad happened to any of us.

If you choose to be unvaxxed wear a mask and try your best not to leave your home. Don't go grocery shopping or visit family. Don't send your kids to school or do anything that requires being around others. It's best to that safety wise.

I don't like red lights but I am ok with all other traffic signals so i'm not a bad driver!! Maybe some things are not a matter of opinion and more a matter of being a functioning member of society.

I respect your willingness to share your opinions and I value your ability to do so, but that's not what I'm asking.

 

[Crossbreed]

I am waiting for the Valneva brand of "ice cream."
(No artificial ingredients...)

You can even like a flavor, but not like the brand.

 

[Tom]

I want my vaxes in Ice Cream. Needles are practically medieval.

 

[PastelPetals]

I respect your willingness to share your opinions and I value your ability to do so, but that's not what I'm asking.

The answer is it would be anti covid vaxx. Anti vaxx flows off the tongue and works in this situation since most people can infer if people are talking about the covid vaxx and say anti vaxx most people would not be thinking about anti hepatitis c vaxx. I still think comparing ice cream to vaccines is not a 1 to 1 comparison but I think I have interpreted your question correctly this time.

 

[Aspychata]

You do not risk the safety of you or others if you refrain from eating pistachio ice cream. You are focusing on the semantics while ignoring that the vast majority of deaths and hospitalisations are unvaccinated people (covid vaxx specifically). Maybe we need a more specific term...I am sure we can get to that after we finish burying our dead.

Of course that if we can get to that since the more people getting it the more it mutates. You may never need to get this vaxx as the virus mutates to become worse and worse. You may be dead, stuck with a permanent chronic illness, or maybe you just get to watch as this virus gets worse and the people around you start to drop.

People like you refuse to snuff out the flame so we can all move on. I would care less if the meningitis vaxx or polio vaxx was what you refused. I would not agree but I would not be upset. This is a major issue right in front of you and yet you don't act.

The vaxx is safe. I had pfizer. The first shot I felt soreness in my arm for about two days. The second shot I felt pretty awful for two days but then was ok. My reaction was my immune system learning. Though my sister,mother,my friend did not have more that fatigue and a headache. Nothing bad happened to any of us.

If you choose to be unvaxxed wear a mask and try your best not to leave your home. Don't go grocery shopping or visit family. Don't send your kids to school or do anything that requires being around others. It's best to that safety wise.

I don't like red lights but I am ok with all other traffic signals so i'm not a bad driver!! Maybe some things are not a matter of opinion and more a matter of being a functioning member of society.

So thank you for post. Our whole library system shut down. Because employees who were vaccinated all caught Covid and had severe complications and were in the hospital.There are plenty of cases where immediately after the shot, they contract Covid and die. This is not approved by FDA.

 

[Crossbreed]

Because employees who were vaccinated all caught Covid and had severe complications and were in the hospital.There are plenty of cases where immediately after the shot, they contract Covid and die. This is not approved by FDA.

Was it all the same vaccine, or the same type?
(USA only uses Pfizer, Moderna and J&J, right now. The first two are the same type as each other.)

 

[Crossbreed]

Because employees who were vaccinated all caught Covid and had severe complications and were in the hospital.There are plenty of cases where immediately after the shot, they contract Covid and die.

On a related note,
Vaccination Status May Be Considered To Get ICU Beds At Dallas-Area Hospitals If Covid Spread Worsens

Before that article, I was led to believe that the current USA vaccines would lessen the severity of breakthrough infections, if they did not stop them altogether.

 

[Magna]

On a related note,
Vaccination Status May Be Considered To Get ICU Beds At Dallas-Area Hospitals If Covid Spread Worsens

Before that article, I was led to believe that the current USA vaccines would lessen the severity of breakthrough infections, if they did not stop them altogether.

I'm confused on this because my understanding from what I've read is that hospital ICUs all over the U.S. in a lot of areas are filling or filled to capacity with Covid cases of people who are unvaccinated, NOT people who are vaccinated. Isn't that correct?

The current vaccines DO NOT confer immunity to Covid to the vaccinated, nor do they prevent the vaccinated from spreading the virus to anyone else. What the vaccines are supposed to do is lessen the vaccinated person's symptoms should they catch Covid; In short, the vaccines are supposed to keep the vaccinated out of the hospital if they catch Covid and certainly prevent them from dying from it. Is there credible information out there to the contrary?

Another reason I don't think there's credible information that would show that ICU patients are made up of a significant number of Covid vaccinated people is because I believe "front line" healthcare workers, the people who in my personal experience have a true and honest care for humanity (e.g. nurses) would be sounding the alarm. Even if, God forbid they were told to keep quiet for whatever nefarious reason cloaked in "privacy", it would be the absolute duty of any healthcare worker with a conscience to "blow the whistle" if the situation is really not what it seems to be. This situation is unique in that actual information might affect all of humanity rather than a single patient, hospital, town/city, state, country, etc. It's that important to tell the truth here and I can't accept that "front line" healthcare workers would lie en masse.

 

[Aspychata]

I'm confused on this because my understanding from what I've read is that hospital ICUs all over the U.S. in a lot of areas are filling or filled to capacity with Covid cases of people who are unvaccinated, NOT people who are vaccinated. Isn't that correct?

The current vaccines DO NOT confer immunity to Covid to the vaccinated, nor do they prevent the vaccinated from spreading the virus to anyone else. What the vaccines are supposed to do is lessen the vaccinated person's symptoms should they catch Covid; In short, the vaccines are supposed to keep the vaccinated out of the hospital if they catch Covid and certainly prevent them from dying from it. Is there credible information out there to the contrary?

Another reason I don't think there's credible information that would show that ICU patients are made up of a significant number of Covid vaccinated people is because I believe "front line" healthcare workers, the people who in my personal experience have a true and honest care for humanity (e.g. nurses) would be sounding the alarm. Even if, God forbid they were told to keep quiet for whatever nefarious reason cloaked in "privacy", it would be the absolute duty of any healthcare worker with a conscience to "blow the whistle" if the situation is really not what it seems to be. This situation is unique in that actual information might affect all of humanity rather than a single patient, hospital, town/city, state, country, etc. It's that important to tell the truth here and I can't accept that "front line" healthcare workers would lie en masse.

Alot of healthcare workers are blowing the whistle.

Alot of healthcare workers are dead even though they had the vaccine.

The library employees ,despite the covid vaccine ,had severe complications.

It's out there should you chose to open your eyes and read it. Anytime the pharma industry is involved, it is wise to be astute. This industry spends millions of dollars lobbying in America. The bottom line is always profit. I will not stand in anybody's way who wishes to be vaccinated. Just as l would not stand in the way of those who choose not to be vaccinated.

 

[Neonatal RRT]

I'm confused on this because my understanding from what I've read is that hospital ICUs all over the U.S. in a lot of areas are filling or filled to capacity with Covid cases of people who are unvaccinated, NOT people who are vaccinated. Isn't that correct?

The current vaccines DO NOT confer immunity to Covid to the vaccinated, nor do they prevent the vaccinated from spreading the virus to anyone else. What the vaccines are supposed to do is lessen the vaccinated person's symptoms should they catch Covid; In short, the vaccines are supposed to keep the vaccinated out of the hospital if they catch Covid and certainly prevent them from dying from it. Is there credible information out there to the contrary?

Another reason I don't think there's credible information that would show that ICU patients are made up of a significant number of Covid vaccinated people is because I believe "front line" healthcare workers, the people who in my personal experience have a true and honest care for humanity (e.g. nurses) would be sounding the alarm. Even if, God forbid they were told to keep quiet for whatever nefarious reason cloaked in "privacy", it would be the absolute duty of any healthcare worker with a conscience to "blow the whistle" if the situation is really not what it seems to be. This situation is unique in that actual information might affect all of humanity rather than a single patient, hospital, town/city, state, country, etc. It's that important to tell the truth here and I can't accept that "front line" healthcare workers would lie en masse.

Your first statement appears to be correct. What this article is highlighting is the unfortunate situation where a hospital in Texas is using vaccination status as a way of triaging who is more likely to receive care. In other words, if I am reading this correctly,...given the fact that unvaccinated CoVID+ patients statistically are far more likely to be hospitalized and/or die from the virus, this hospital is choosing to preferentially treat vaccinated patients because they are far more likely to have a less severe disease course and are less likely to die.

Welcome to Texas. However, as I receive daily alerts on my phone that our ICU beds are full,..."all hands on deck",..."cancel non-essential meetings",...management put on some scrubs and get to work,...etc,...I can see where this might end up in several hospitals. There are critical shortages of staff to take care of people. We can create bed space, we even have ventilators now,...but we need people,...and people are simply leaving healthcare,...they are looking for an "out" after this past year. So, as all this develops,...I can see more hospitals severely limiting or even refusing to admit the unvaccinated CoVID+ patients. If the vaccines receive FDA approval AND this pandemic ramps up again,...you might start seeing some disturbing things within the next few months.

 

[LadyS]

I'm confused on this because my understanding from what I've read is that hospital ICUs all over the U.S. in a lot of areas are filling or filled to capacity with Covid cases of people who are unvaccinated, NOT people who are vaccinated. Isn't that correct?

The current vaccines DO NOT confer immunity to Covid to the vaccinated, nor do they prevent the vaccinated from spreading the virus to anyone else. What the vaccines are supposed to do is lessen the vaccinated person's symptoms should they catch Covid; In short, the vaccines are supposed to keep the vaccinated out of the hospital if they catch Covid and certainly prevent them from dying from it. Is there credible information out there to the contrary?

Another reason I don't think there's credible information that would show that ICU patients are made up of a significant number of Covid vaccinated people is because I believe "front line" healthcare workers, the people who in my personal experience have a true and honest care for humanity (e.g. nurses) would be sounding the alarm. Even if, God forbid they were told to keep quiet for whatever nefarious reason cloaked in "privacy", it would be the absolute duty of any healthcare worker with a conscience to "blow the whistle" if the situation is really not what it seems to be. This situation is unique in that actual information might affect all of humanity rather than a single patient, hospital, town/city, state, country, etc. It's that important to tell the truth here and I can't accept that "front line" healthcare workers would lie en masse.

Most of the hospitalized are unvaccinated. I honestly don't know why I bother commenting because people see what they want to see and will make up any excuses not to get vaccinated. You really don't need to be a biologist to know that with more unvaccinated, there will be more breakthrough cases in the vaccinated. It actually amazes me that of all the chemicals, preservatives, growth hormones, pesticides, artificial crap that people willingly consume in their bodies (why does nobody question each ingredient in each food item?) on a daily basis and all the vaccines of the past that this suddenly makes a full stop.

Darwin is winning regardless.

"Breakthrough COVID infections show ‘the unvaccinated are now putting the vaccinated at risk’ | PBS NewsHour" https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/breakthrough-covid-infections-show-the-unvaccinated-are-now-putting-the-vaccinated-at-risk

 

[Aspychata]

Just as so many people refuse to get the yearly flu vaccine because they will make up any excuse not to get it. Right.

 

[Martha Ferris]

So thank you for post. Our whole library system shut down. Because employees who were vaccinated all caught Covid and had severe complications and were in the hospital.There are plenty of cases where immediately after the shot, they contract Covid and die. This is not approved by FDA.

It takes time to boost our immune system with a vaccine. Around two weeks. The protection is not immediate.
Those who have been vaccinated can still contract COVID however the illness is not as severe and there is a 99.8% chance that you won't die from it. Compare that to those who are unvaccinated and contract the virus.
Yes, we are still waiting FDA appproval. More than 2.75 billion doses of COVID vaccines have been administered globally. If we waited for FDA approval think about where we would be right now. The science of the efficacy of the vaccine is there with or without FDA approval.
Flu vaccines are only about 50% effective. COVID vaccines are over 90% effective. Nothing is 100% except dying.

 

[James45]

It is a personal choice and to decide either way, due to wanting to be 'a functioning member of society' is not a valid argument.

In my opinion nothing exacerbates and highlights the downsides of autism more than 'societal pressure to conform'.

Therefore I think it is a strange argument to use in this forum.

However I am pleased to hear as many opinions as there are and they are all valid to the individual who expresses them.

In my experience I am very vulnerable to accepting what people tell me as always being the truth and even though I am aware of manipulations, I am often unable to distinguish them, therefore I avoid the opinion of mass media generally.

I think to make any medical decision based on information garnered from mass media is not too wise, as it is not too far a leap to recognize big business needs the media and the media needs big business and the resulting commentary is highly unlikely to be unbiased.

Pistachio ice cream...you wouldn't ever get me near it.

 

[Martha Ferris]

Your first statement appears to be correct. What this article is highlighting is the unfortunate situation where a hospital in Texas is using vaccination status as a way of triaging who is more likely to receive care. In other words, if I am reading this correctly,...given the fact that unvaccinated CoVID+ patients statistically are far more likely to be hospitalized and/or die from the virus, this hospital is choosing to preferentially treat vaccinated patients because they are far more likely to have a less severe disease course and are less likely to die.

Welcome to Texas. However, as I receive daily alerts on my phone that our ICU beds are full,..."all hands on deck",..."cancel non-essential meetings",...management put on some scrubs and get to work,...etc,...I can see where this might end up in several hospitals. There are critical shortages of staff to take care of people. We can create bed space, we even have ventilators now,...but we need people,...and people are simply leaving healthcare,...they are looking for an "out" after this past year. So, as all this develops,...I can see more hospitals severely limiting or even refusing to admit the unvaccinated CoVID+ patients. If the vaccines receive FDA approval AND this pandemic ramps up again,...you might start seeing some disturbing things within the next few months.

Yes, there may be some very tough decisions coming our way as there were in Italy when this pandemic was new. There are consequences to our choices. When hospitals are full and those who cannot be vaccinated, such as children, comprise the largest patient base then I think that adults who have chosen not to be vaccinated must move to the end of the line for treatment when push comes to shove. Kids don't have a choice. Adults do.