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If you thought bleach enemas was stupid enough...

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Mia (my dog) says no needles!
 
She is so serious looking (always)... She cant stop wagging her tail. She gets all freaked out in a thunderstorm.. She is stubborn and never listens (I'm mostly lying) Maybe she has ASD too. If so I love her that much more. : )

People are just out of their minds with the Autism thing...
You cant fix what isn't really broken, but you can damn sure mess it up pretty bad!
 
Things that I can't understand (in the sense of I cannot understand how people can be that stupid, or how they can ignore the facts) really annoy me far more than they should. Anti-vaxxers are one of those things. The guy was completely discredited, struck off from the medical register and his work was shown to be false and he knew that and deliberately faked it for money......and yet, there are still people who drag out the same tired bulls**t about vaccines. Everyone I went to school with had the MMR...and only a very small percentage were on the spectrum.

I saw something on a comments section yesterday where someone said "my child, my choice" in reference to vaccines. Thankfully she was called out by many people pointing out that by not vaccinating her child, she was in fact risking the lives of many others.

I actually always wondered if people would eventually put fear of vaccines onto pets. Turns out they will.
 
Their was times we questioned if my Grans dog was autistic. Would only eat one brand of food, had a select group of about 3 dogs she would socialise with, only liked people in short doses them would hide, slept in a box because a bed won't good enough and wouldn't even come in the room when my Gran got ready of the carpet.

I miss Lucy.
 
xudo said:
I actually always wondered if people would eventually put fear of vaccines onto pets. Turns out they will.
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Hey XUDO... I was just being jokingly sarcastic and it didn't work (sorry). Mia is terrified of going to the vet... So thats why I said that. She has her shots and goes to the vet regularly for heart worm treatments.
I take good care of her I promise. : )
 
Chance said:
Hey XUDO... I was just being jokingly sarcastic and it didn't work (sorry). Mia is terrified of going to the vet... So thats why I said that. She has her shots and goes to the vet regularly for heart worm treatments.
I take good care of her I promise. : )
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I got the joke, I just meant the people being discussed in the article.
 
Rich Allen said:
These people are morons, it's not possible for a Dog to get Autism, or is it?
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It's never been diagnosed, and as one vet points out in the article, it would be impossible to diagnose. The sort of people who believe vaccines cause autism though are likely to believe anything.
 
Rich Allen said:
These people are morons, it's not possible for a Dog to get Autism, or is it?
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Dogs can get something called Canine Compulsive Disorder. They are studying it to maybe shed light on the people version of it called Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. It is easier to study in dogs because of dog breeds. Some dog breeds have a specific set of compulsive behaviors that is common among dogs of that breed. An example is that terriers often chase their tails and Labrador Retrievers get attached to an object that they like to carry around with them or swim laps over and over. They can look to see what brain areas in say four breeds that have the same compulsive behaviors and compare them to a breed that does not do the compulsive behaviors. They may be getting somewhere with this that may shed light on humans with OCD. I believe it may also help with Autism and Aspergers.

I wrote about this recently and included a link about the study. I do not know where I wrote this, a forum thread or a post on my blog. Sorry about that. You will have to look it up yourself if you want it. It should show up on my profile page.
 
nah thats just panicky -anxiety
coping mechanisms -small groups ,fear of change (staying with one food)
cardboard(security)
 
There's a book I read called the owl company.

Travellers join together in the middle ages. It shows how the villages they came across were filled with superstitious thought.
I thought the book had really good insight into how this level of thought developed.

A way to normalize fear though a 'scapegoat' is one.

I often think we haven't moved on from those times.

People,cant handle fear so they are prone to invention to manage their emotions (as above) to try and dispel it.
Which ks also partly the way that people can react vilently to 'fact' or opposing views.
Their fears and personal identities have all these emotional dispelling aspects.. so when facts appear they feel like their identities are threatened.

To achieve any real progress is near impossible,especially in the modern media age which has monetized these fears successfully.

Also to try and counter these idiotic beliefs consolidates them. Because it cant be won on an argument of facts. Because the creation of these tnings is a secondary aspect of how people normalise fear and doubt within themselves. A process it is hard for them to be conscious off.
The same process is at work within a lot of social interaction. These things are just an outlier of this.

The best we can do is opt out and hope people become curious enough to join us.

Education would also help but education jnto how thoughts are formed on a social basis,social identity and the nature of how were are influenced is not going to make a mainstream syllabus.
Mostly for the reason that people can make too much money out of these human tendencies.
It's so much more than a shame that humans have created eternal life for corporations that,along with the rules we have made,have made the most of us slaves in many different ways.

Anyway off to starbucks for a mocha chocca bocha

NOT.
 
Fear is a really effective evolutionary survival mechanism, when used in the correct context.
I experience anxiety disorders and OCD. I've generated a habit to react with fear to many things based on irrational perception, intrusive thoughts and catastrophising.
I've grown the neurons and pathways (through habit) for fear to be a norm.

I'd agree with you @Fridgemagnetman when you suggest this is encouraged in the media. We are assaulted by so much information daily that in some cases only the sensationalised stories catch our attention. These stories rarely report fact but can use the power of suggestion with ambiguous wording. (Encouraging people to use their own imagination)
Advertising is a pet hate of mine too. Using fears to sell products. (Aging, not fitting in, not cool enough, beauty)

Can a vaccination result in autism in dogs? Again, the general public don't know enough facts to make an informed decision. There isn't enough research or fact available for most people to make an informed decision so we are encouraged to use what little we do know and fill in the gaps with imagination.

What I'd really like to know is how the suggestion started. Did someone put two and two together and arrive at five? Or did someone discover something in a study?
 
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