Inducing dreams/nightmares

[Chance]

Ayahuasca contains DMT.

People often have experience where they get to see the results of their past actions through the eyes of the affected.

It's supposed to be like nothing else.

i would like to go try it with a real experienced medicine man. There are some videos on you tube I watched a while back... It seems to make some people really sick (as in puking and messing themselves)... That part in itself is sort of a nightmare to me... gross. But if I got the answers I seek... I guess it would be worth it.

 

[Gritches]

I'd be interested in how you managed to sleep for three days. I'd give anything just to sleep through one night. Even as a kid I'd wake up several times.

By staying awake for 3 days. I was stepping onto a new med that can (and apparently does) include insomnia as a side-effect. This wasn't something I intended or tried to do.

 

[Chance]

So relatively recently, circumstances led me to sleep for about 3 days straight. During this time, I had such incredible dreams that tapped the purest of my intellect and insight, revealed personal truths, and taught me a lot about myself.

The dreams were so realistic and so vivid, it took me weeks to sort out what was a dream and what was a memory. I dreamed about things I shouldn't even know, that I later fact-checked and turned out to be true and accurate.

I don't know, but I touched a plane of existence there the likes of which I've never experienced, and that's saying something. Some of the dreams were pleasant, and some were so horrible that I spent weeks basically rocking in a corner and assuring myself it wasn't real.

Either way, I want to experience that again. I've been doing everything possible to induce the most vivid dreams possible, but I know I could be doing more. I don't care if they're nightmares, I don't care if they're lucid or not (in fact I would prefer they not be), but I want to visit this plane of existence again, because I believe dreams are the subconscious running free - and I want to know what I'm really made of.

TL;DR: I need to know some herbs, meds, techniques, whatever to induce vivid dreams/nightmares (all legal and readily available of course). I already take melatonin, valerian, and transdermal nicotine, in addition to a few pharmaceuticals which I am prescribed.

I guess my question to a relatively normal and sane person would be: have you taken or done anything that gave you really messed up dreams before? If so, what?

i think you took the red pill instead of the blue pill... Now Mr. Smith is all over your ass... : )

 

[Fridgemagnetman]

There are many means of transportation but
Journey into your very essence
Find the door in the center of your soul
Open it and walk through.
You will arrive at the same place you started.

The soul is a mirror that has no image.
Its meaning is to reflect that which is outside it

Yage for breakfast baby

Well ok, it was a chocolate biscuit.

 

[LucyPurrs]

As disillusioning as it was to find out Carlos Casteneda was a fake and charlatan, it was worse for me to find out that Florinda Donner was also. There may not even be any spiritual guides to assist with such journeys, could all be part of an illusion. The experience sounds engagingly attractive but I wonder if it isn't also fraught with dangers. In any case for another lifetime.

 

[Sabrina]

So relatively recently, circumstances led me to sleep for about 3 days straight. During this time, I had such incredible dreams that tapped the purest of my intellect and insight, revealed personal truths, and taught me a lot about myself.

The dreams were so realistic and so vivid, it took me weeks to sort out what was a dream and what was a memory. I dreamed about things I shouldn't even know, that I later fact-checked and turned out to be true and accurate.

I don't know, but I touched a plane of existence there the likes of which I've never experienced, and that's saying something. Some of the dreams were pleasant, and some were so horrible that I spent weeks basically rocking in a corner and assuring myself it wasn't real.

Either way, I want to experience that again. I've been doing everything possible to induce the most vivid dreams possible, but I know I could be doing more. I don't care if they're nightmares, I don't care if they're lucid or not (in fact I would prefer they not be), but I want to visit this plane of existence again, because I believe dreams are the subconscious running free - and I want to know what I'm really made of.

TL;DR: I need to know some herbs, meds, techniques, whatever to induce vivid dreams/nightmares (all legal and readily available of course). I already take melatonin, valerian, and transdermal nicotine, in addition to a few pharmaceuticals which I am prescribed.

I guess my question to a relatively normal and sane person would be: have you taken or done anything that gave you really messed up dreams before? If so, what?

@Gritches you don’t need any of that. What you need is to be able to recall your dreams. In order to do that, put an alarm clock in the middle of the night, and when you wake up you’ll be able to remember what you were dreaming just before (which rarely happens when one wakes up in the morning). You can do this at night, but also during the day, if you take a nap (put an alarm clock to wake you up).

Also, having a peaceful and totally rested mind promotes lucid dreaming. In the most recent one that I had, I floated, flew and did summersaults in mid-air. It was awesome and I woke up with a peace of mind that I hadn’t felt in months, probably years. What induced that? The fact that the previous night I didn’t sleep at all, drinking and most importantly, having sex (I hadn’t had sex for seven months, the longest I had been without it in my life). So there, you might need more, intense sex.

 

[Bolletje]

i would like to go try it with a real experienced medicine man. There are some videos on you tube I watched a while back... It seems to make some people really sick (as in puking and messing themselves)... That part in itself is sort of a nightmare to me... gross. But if I got the answers I seek... I guess it would be worth it.

Puking violently is apparently a normal part of the experience. That’s honestly my main reason for not doing it, psychedelic experiences don’t frighten me that much.

 

[Gritches]

@Gritches you don’t need any of that. What you need is to be able to recall your dreams. In order to do that, put an alarm clock in the middle of the night, and when you wake up you’ll be able to remember what you were dreaming just before (which rarely happens when one wakes up in the morning). You can do this at night, but also during the day, if you take a nap (put an alarm clock to wake you up).

Also, having a peaceful and totally rested mind promotes lucid dreaming. In the most recent one that I had, I floated, flew and did summersaults in mid-air. It was awesome and I woke up with a peace of mind that I hadn’t felt in months, probably years. What induced that? The fact that the previous night I didn’t sleep at all, drinking and most importantly, having sex (I hadn’t had sex for seven months, the longest I had been without it in my life).

Very wise, and very true. I'll definitely give that a shot.

So there, you might need more, intense sex.

I do not believe that I have ever agreed with a statement more thoroughly or vehemently in my entire life.

 

[LucyPurrs]

See this link for lucid dreaming program/techniques:

How To Easily Lucid Dream Tonight! (Best Guide Of 2018)

 

[Full Steam]

As disillusioning as it was to find out Carlos Casteneda was a fake and charlatan, it was worse for me to find out that Florinda Bonner was also. There may not even be any spiritual guides to assist with such journeys, could all be part of an illusion. The experience sounds engagingly attractive but I wonder if it isn't also fraught with dangers. In any case for another lifetime.

I never heard of him before, but just read his Wikipedia page. It seems undecided as to his truthfulness, and Wikipedia tends to be on the punitive side.

There are actually edit wars going on over Wikipedia pages that are contentious, and the materialist views tend to win.

 

[LucyPurrs]

I never heard of him before, but just read his Wikipedia page. It seems undecided as to his truthfulness, and Wikipedia tends to be on the punitive side.

There are actually edit wars going on over Wikipedia pages that are contentious, and the materialist views tend to win.

See:
Sorcerer's Apprentice: My Life with Carlos Castaneda
Book by Amy Wallace (daughter of Irving Wallace the author)

She was part of the inner circle of "witches", a fascinating story of how it all went down. Florinda Donner was another one of the witches (author of Shabono).

 

[Full Steam]

See:
Sorcerer's Apprentice: My Life with Carlos Castaneda
Book by Amy Wallace (daughter of Irving Wallace the author)

She was part of the inner circle of "witches", a fascinating story of how it all went down. Florinda Donner was another one of the witches (author of Shabono).

Fascinating, I just read the Amazon page.

It doesn't seem like the book portrays him as a fake, though, more as a manipulative cult leader.

That's bad enough, of course, but does it make his teachings invalid?

I often like books like I suspect he wrote, although I never take them as gospel. In the spiritual, only direct experience can be trusted 100% and maybe not even that.

 

[LucyPurrs]

Fascinating, I just read the Amazon page.

It doesn't seem like the book portrays him as a fake, though, more as a manipulative cult leader.

That's bad enough, of course, but does it make his teachings invalid?

I often like books like I suspect he wrote, although I never take them as gospel. In the spiritual, only direct experience can be trusted 100% and maybe not even that.

His books are addicting and fascinating but apparently almost totally fabricated as maybe is Florinda's who I believed was a true anthropologist. Her book, Shabono is amazing. But see I grew up in that generation that revered Casteneda and thought he'd found the way so big generation gap here with you. Irving Wallace was a famous writer of that time also and his daughter met Casteneda through Wallace. I suggest you maybe read Casteneda's first book Don Juan, A Yaqui Way of Knowledge then read Amy's book if you want to explore more. I think Casteneda was actually a trained anthropologist but got really carried away.

 

[Sabrina]

His books are addicting and fascinating but apparently almost totally fabricated as maybe is Florinda's who I believed was a true anthropologist. Her book, Shabono is amazing. But see I grew up in that generation that revered Casteneda and thought he'd found the way so big generation gap here with you. Irving Wallace was a famous writer of that time also and his daughter met Casteneda through Wallace. I suggest you maybe read Casteneda's first book Don Juan, A Yaqui Way of Knowledge then read Amy's book if you want to explore more. I think Casteneda was actually a trained anthropologist but got really carried away.

If you read Carlos Cataneda and Florinda Donner as fiction, they are very cool. I enjoyed them.

 

[Sabrina]

In the topic of lucid dreaming, the movie Inception is amazing. It’s science fiction, though.

 

[Fitzo]

I have been a chronic insomniac for over 40 years and about four years ago I was prescribed Seroquel as a mood stabilizer. It is normally prescribed for bi polar disorder. Anyway, it helps me to sleep so I have continued taking it, BUT it also induces the most bizarre and vivid dreams.

 

[LucyPurrs]

If you read Carlos Cataneda and Florinda Donner as fiction, they are very cool. I enjoyed them.

Well, that's a novel approach Sabrina! Never would have thought to do that but then when I was reading those books we all (in my generation) believed he'd really done all those things. I never got all the way through all of Casteneda's books, was planning to reread all including the 2 or 3 last ones I hadn't read, then read Amy Wallace's book and got disillusioned. But I'm really intrigued by your account of lucid dreaming and will start exploring that using the program on the website I posted. Right now dealing with some other physical problems which make it hard to focus on anything due to lot of pain involved.