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Lying Awake At Night...

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I thought that I would kick off a fairly self-indulgent thread, as for the first time in my life it is likely that I have found at least a few people who might have some idea WTF I am on about.

It seems to be fairly common that Aspies suffer from insomnia and odd sleep patterns. So what do you do with those hours that you spend just lying there in the dark. When I was a teenager, so around the same age as most of the forum members, I would come up with all sorts of theories about the nature of God. I don't believe in God, but when you consider the distinct possibility that there is a God of some sort, what sort of God makes sense to a rational human mind?

I theorised that time must be finite. Why? Because if time is infinite in both directions, then there must be an infinite amount of time preceding any event. As such nothing could ever happen, right? I ran this by a few people and they always tried to tell me that my logic was flawed. It wasn't until I read "A Brief History Of Time" by Stephen J Hawking that I found someone else talking about the same issue.

Time and Space are not infinite, but how can they be finite when the human mind cannot conceive of a boundary on either? If time is finite, then there must have been a time when time did not yet exist. In which case there couldn't have been a time, as such, when time did not exist. :wtf2:

If God is not a person but a force of nature, why did He create the universe? Is God even aware of the existence of mankind, are we even relevant?

What is the nature of consciousness? The odds against "me", or any other specific individual, even existing in first place are beyond astronomical. So how is it that this specific "me" came to be?

I'll type up some of the ideas and conclusions that I came up with a bit later.
 
Obviously, there couldn't have been a 'time', when when time didn't exist! So what? That don't prove time is infinite in duration. There are some philosophers that agree with your point about why it can't be. Then, most people now believe that the universe did start, so that's agreed, anyway. Not sure how God can be a 'force of nature', though, 'before' (for want of better word) the universe existed.
 
TBH, I like to cry when I'm tired and listen to music so I'll try and think of something depressing and cry.
But sometimes I'm not sad enough to cry.
When I'm not sad enough to cry it depends what mood I'm in.
Sometimes I just see images, mainly cubed ones all night.
I mainly go over social situations I ****ed up on over and over though.
EMZ=]
 
(1) Obviously, there couldn't have been a 'time', when when time didn't exist! So what? That don't prove time is infinite in duration. There are some philosophers that agree with your point about why it can't be. Then, most people now believe that the universe did start, so that's agreed, anyway.

(2) Not sure how God can be a 'force of nature', though, 'before' (for want of better word) the universe existed.

(1) Exactly BruceCM. See what I am talking about? It isn't so much about the concept of time but about the fact that I knew that there would be members of this forum (like yourself) who understand the quandary. I've talked about this with numerous "regular" people and none of them got it, not even close. Time is, of course, "finite", at least in the context of this universe. But human reasoning still struggles with the concept of that.

(2) IF God exists as a "force of nature" or as a "person" or whatever, then He exists beyond time and space, beyond the confines of our universe and its 3 dimensions of space and one dimension of time.
 
Well, any 'answers' to such questions aren't going to be EASY or SIMPLE! You seem a philosophical sort of thinker, which certainly isn't meant as a criticism. Can you cope with the concept of Eternity? NOT forever, as in for all time but separate from that & our Universe? Which, I hope you'll agree, was the idea of those that believed in God a LONG time ago!
 
@Emor
So...you`re beeing sad for fun? :rofl:

I doubt we`ll find an answer as to who started off this universe.
If it was god, then who created god? Another god?!?
Maybe god saw how messed up we are and is now working on an upgrade somewhere far away and just doesnt care about us (anymore)? Maybe he got bored, because we were uncreative enough to repeat the same prayer over and over again? (I mean, would you like to hear the "Lord`s prayer" a couple of million times a day?? For more than 500 years? :wtf2: )

btt, I wake up regularly at 4.00 am and just can`t go back to sleep. I then take a walk in the forest. That is really great, i LOVE it, you know the peace + silence... -_-

f.
 
IDK. Crying is a nice release.
I mean, I don't do it in public or to get attention or w.e, but at home when there's no one in or I'm going to sleep and it's late I enjoy it. LOL.
But being depressed is annoying 'cause you just hate yourself and stuff.
Some people who refuse to take medication I think enjoy it though. I just think it's stupid when you don't. I think they don't want to be in the situation they're in, not delude themselves into thinking they're not in it. They don't mind being depressed though.
EMZ=]
 
I can sleep fine, it's just I sleep at the wrong times. I usually stay up at night on the computer, listening to music or playing games. Even when I am tired and go to bed it can take me an hour or two to fall asleep, so I usually just imagine what my life would be like if I had it the way I wanted. Once i'm actually sleeping though, that's me out for the count lol. I'm a heavy sleeper (but don't snore) meaning I'll sleep through most things. One time I woke up in the early hours of  the morning, looked out of my window and a riot was still taking place in my housing estate.   :lol: Then again there were always riots taking place in my first estate because it was beside a peace line, so maybe I just got accustomed to them and thus slept through most of it.

So to summarise, it takes me an hour or two to fall asleep but once i'm sleeping then i'm fine. Apart from my sleeping pattern being messed up of course.
 
You seem a philosophical sort of thinker, which certainly isn't meant as a criticism.
If I am a philosopher, then I'm a stand-up philosopher like this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl4VD8uvgec

I'll get back to you about eternity and why I think that people believe in God. I've got to be in the right mood to answer a question like that or it will come out as gobbledygook. Chances are it will anyway, but thems the breaks. :shiftyninja:
 
When I'm super depressed but dont cry I try to force myself to cry because it makes you feel a little better...sometimes.

And I've cried in public when I was depressed but it was definitely not for attention.
 
I hate crying in public but I have a couple of times which I still wish I didn't but I didn't really have much say in the matter :/.
EMZ=]
 
I hate crying in public but I have a couple of times which I still wish I didn't but I didn't really have much say in the matter :/.
EMZ=]

Yeah...I've had a major major meltdown in public before and started crying. Not good. And my 'friends' of the time (not friends now...**** YOU ASPERGER SYNDROME) took the piss. Meh :(

I'm listening to cheery music right now to cheer me up though
 
I usually daydream. Nights when I actually have trouble sleeping are rare, but most of the time I just don't want to go to sleep right away; I want to stay awake and dream for a while. I love it. <3 If I have a sleep disorder, it's having early morning awakenings. I hate them, because I'll wake up super early but not want to get up, and after a little while go back to sleep and then wake up later than I'd intended, and tired.
 
i stay up all night(if i do not have my dsi to play).i some time get on here and sometimes i go to facebook on the dsi... win i am a sleep,i can not stop hereing a BAD CAR WERK that i was in(i lost me sis...she was 1-2 years) so...

but most of the time i sleep with nothing going on (no good or bad dres)
 
I am sorry to hear that Jared. That must have been awful for you. :(

Sometimes I lie awake at night thinking about things, wondering about life, psychoanalyzing various people that I know. On the occasions where I can't sleep no matter how hard I try I like to watch TV, listen to music or go on the internet. Sometimes that keeps me up all night but not always, there will be times where I'm doing something and I suddenly come over all tired and fall asleep pretty much as soon as I get into bed. I tend to stay up late when I've got days like today where I don't have to go anywhere or be up early, I was up until gone 4 o'clock this morning on the internet.
 

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