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i am not a troll - i have asd & am telling u the truth & u have no rite 2 critizise me 4 it, nor am i retarded...u can think what u want abt me, but god knows i'm being honest...i was only on here 2 hear what other people w' asd has 2 say abt this experience i've had & am still going thru & 2 c if i can find any answers 2 help me move on, but i can c that i made a big mistake...u should know that people w' asd r different & that they don't have the same limitations...i hope that one day, u will understand that b4 judging whether a person w' asd is a troll or not
 
I get upset easily as I'm super sensitive & i apologize.How do I contact a staff member if I need 2 do so in the future?
 
@sirisue76

"How do I contact a staff member if I need 2 do so in the future?"

Click on the Username of staff person, and Start a PM/Conversation.
 
I hope that one day you will learn to type. There is a transcription feature built into the shout box. It types for you. There are no boogie men, nor demons of any kind. A vaccine is simply a serum, it will not turn you into a robot, your mark of the beast is a reference to tattooing done 2000 years ago to occupied zones by Roman legion's, your doctor is not an alien nor is the great big scary government trying to turn you into a zombie.
 
I've had PCR test over a dozen times, still alive.
I've had two doses of the Pfizer vaccine, feeling great afterwards.
You cannot fit a microchip in the syringe used to administrator the vaccine.
Even if possible, the range would be incredibly short, impossible for tracking someone unless they practically touched a scanner.

Apparently the way to heaven is through doing good deeds and repentance of bad ones.
If you truly believe your life is shortened then what you could do is try and fit in as many good deeds in the time that you have left.
 
I'm going to echo what a few others have said: to communicate effectively on the forums, you've got to change up how you type.

Yes, I know it's annoying and difficult... nobody escapes that. We all had to do it early on when learning computers and such.

Firstly: Ditch the "text speak". Dont substitute numbers or individual letters for full words. That may be fine in phone-land, but on forums (well, anywhere on the Net) it creates an unreadable mess. And the longer the post is, the harder it is to parse. But also, this is a forum for people on the autistic spectrum... plenty of us have trouble dealing with communication as it is, so some are already at a disadvantage even before reading a jumbled post. Not only that though, but a lot of people on the Net will sort of automatically get a bad impression of you if you use that sort of typing and some wont take you seriously because of it. That is indeed not fair, but... the Net often isnt fair. Seriously: Type full words, no substituting or shortening.

Second: Paragraphs are necessary... they just are.

You can do it, if you just put your mind to it... that's all it takes. If you can do those two things you'll have a much better time on the forums. And on the internet as a whole.
 
I feel sad whenever somebody says "I was talked into taking the covid vaccine, but then my preacher reminded me that it is the mark of the beast and will kill me in two years blahblahblah, I'm terrified that I'm going to hell now, what should I do?" Such people inevitably wind up being under the spell of one of the false prophets that are predicted to multiply as the end draws closer.

OK, Revelation says the Mark of the Beast is the mark of a man, and the man's mark is equivalent to the number 666 (although that may be a mistranslation, as I'll get to in a moment). In Roman times, men of noble/royal heritage had a distinct "shield" or what is now known as a "coat of arms". This was called his "mark". The Roman coin, the denarus, had the face of the emperor on one side and his mark on the other. Indeed, the coins were referred to as "caesars", the official title of the emperor. This usage is found in the Gospels themselves.

At the time that the Apocalypti, the various writings predicting the fall of Rome and the triumph of Christ, were being written, the emperor Nero was considered to be the archenemy of Christians, due to his extreme persecution of them during his reign. Most of the New Testament was written in Greek. In ancient Greek, each Greek letter had a numerical designation. In Greek, "Nero Caesar" became "Neron Keser". In the Greek alphabet, adding up the Greek letters for "Neron Keser" yielded the number 666. However, "Neron" may have been originally written "Nero", direct from Latin. In that case the Number would be 616. This makes more sense, as 6+1+6=13, a number that has been regarded as evil from the earliest cultures of man.

Most people are right handed, so handle money with their right hand. The Mark of Nero Caesar, which would have been on every Roman denarus during his reign, would thus be "in the right hand". Every Roman soldier would also have had the Mark on his helmet, and soldiers have always gotten discounts and special deals. So, no man could buy or sell, unless he had the Mark...the Mark of Nero Caesar, in the form of coin or military helmet.

The Mark, therefore, is MONEY, not any high tech woo like a vaccine or a bar code or a computer chip or etc. Preachers don't admit this, since they certainly crave those Marks, and lots of them. Just look on the US dollar bill-on the front, the head of George Washington, regarded by us like Julius Caesar was to Romans; on the back, the Seal of the US, the "Mark" of the Empire of America.

Yeshua (Jesus) noted that one cannot serve both God and "Mammon", meaning either money specifically or materialism in general. I'm reminded of this every time a preacher tries to get his flock to donate "only" $500 each so he can buy himself a new Gulfstream jet to "spread the Gospel" meaning doing a lot of "spreading" in exotic beach resorts. They will tell their sheep to not get a lifesaving vaccine due to some convoluted rendering of Revelation while still exhorting their sheep to spread "seeds" in the form of regular $333 or such donations.

In short, you've been lead astray by a false "man of God". This is not your fault. Many are led astray, then lie awake at night after they have had to take a covid test wondering if they will still go to Heaven. People read Revelation without understanding the intent of the symbolism, then fall for a false interpretation.
 
To the distressed poster, fear- fear sells a lot of things. Religion uses fear to keep everyone compliant with keeping everyone in line. And some of us just envision the worse and start dwelling on more doom and gloom. Some of this is rumination which we are notorious great at. I think with maturity, l slowly let go of 76.89 horrible ruminations about anything.

Maybe dial back your fear, and realize your god does try to protect you and maybe your faith will get stronger and guide you thru this.
 
@sirisue76, the vaccine does not change your DNA. It does not contain microchips and it is not the mark of the beast. You have been fed some very very wrong misinformation. Please try the following:

1) Try different news sources. Listen to, watch, or read different news sources than the ones you currently are. If you listen to just one source, it's too easy to be misled. It makes it very difficult to tell the difference between fact and opinion.

2) Learn to trust the experts. Experts are experts for a reason - they know more about it than we do. Plumbers make good money because they know how to fix plumbing problems we don't. The same goes for electricians, teachers, heart surgeons, computer specialists, and yes ... medical researchers. If you don't trust the experts, you might as well turn your computer off and go live in a cave, because that's the only way you can (try to) survive without trusting anyone else.

3) Learn to question things. Like, why is it that hundreds of thousands of doctors say the vaccine is okay, but only a few people - who are not medical professionals - are saying the vaccine is bad? Can you imagine a hundred thousand doctors all unanimously deciding to go along with some great secret - that not a single one of them is an honest person who genuinely wants to do good? Once you take human nature into account, you will realize that most conspiracies are impossible. What makes you think that a hundred thousand doctors would be able to keep a secret?
 
sirisue76 said:
i'll try 2 make this short ---i'm an adult christian believer w' asperger's & a little bit of autism), that is unable 2 recognize god's voice, presence, answers, signs or even warning signs in general (except rarely after the fact)...i can only understand the literal parts of the bible & not even all of that (symbolism, codes, #'s, imagary, etc is 2 difficult 4 me)

...even thou i know right from wrong, i don't even know when i'm sinning as everything has 2 b written down or listed in full detail & only then am i able 2 know

...i grew up in a house w' parents who not only doesn't believe in god, but wouldn't even let me go 2 church w' a friend, until i was @ lst 13 (& even then they were unwilling) even thou i knew there was a higher power @ 5 or 6...also, they were/r extremely controlling & i was never able 2 make my own choices or speak 4 myself

...i also don't have the ability/foresight 2 look into/search future events cuz like a recovering alcholic, i can only take things 2 days @ a time or my sensory system becomes overwhelmed & it can @ lst 4 days 2 fully recover...i'm also unable 2 read body language as well as in between the lines

...anyway, as a result, i unknowingly/innocently/was tricked into taking the mob (the rt pcr dna test --- transhumanism = chimera, cyborg, artificial intelligence --- which changes ur dna, plus it has all the ingrediants of the mark: buy/sell, name of man/# of man/ image of beast...initially, u'r the beast & the temple is inside u, so that's how u worship the beast...

i know i said this is from the test, but the vax r the mark 2 as they do the same thing, except the test does every thing @ once & yes, the test can vaccinate u & it does implant chips in u as well...it is also a gene experiment - a depopulation tool...the vax used in the pcr test is not the same as the typical vax since i had the test done in 2019 & the vaxs weren't out, but they r a form of the vax (or should i say medicine since the kits were purposly labeled as such)...i never was gonna get the test or vax, but only cuz i didn't c y a hlthy person should b tested just 2 c if u had it, w'out having it (covid) & going in 2 b tested...initially, i had 2 go 2 the er 4 what turned out 2 b an inner bleed (gastritis) in which i lost 3 units of blood in 2 hrs after admission (plus 1 more the next day)

...the test was a requirement 4 admission & i felt no warning signs or anything...anyway, i finally looked up 2 get info abt the test once i was discharged as a result of what i felt & that's when i learned what it was...i know u may not believe these things 2 b the mark so if that's the case, plz answer hypothetically, otherwise do so normally

...now, this is my question -- can i still b saved since this was a result of my aspergers & that it was not directly a choice i made, but 1 made 4 me???this shouldn't have happened as i was a true believer (& still am) & i never turned my back on god, or rejected him - i've never blamed him 4 this as well...being an aspie, not only am i more sensitive 2 things (like i felt the chips) & am closer 2 the spirit world (i've seen my dead grandfather, spirit forms/figures - both good & bad & even felt a human flesh & even an angel's touch)

...however, i still can't recognize god or understand the bible & i'm scared that cuz i took the mark (in the ways aforementioned), i'm scared i'm going 2 go 2 hell cuz of my autism (developmental disorder)...so, is there a chance i can still b saved cuz of my disabilitiies???
i mean y would god allow me, or others w' similiar symptoms/disabilities 2 b deceived esp since i never was able 2 recognize god, his voice - thru answers or prayers, warning signs, etc...i never did c a problem, or even sin bad enuff 2 even have been worshipping satan, let alone get the mark...it was taken unknowingly, w'out informed consent, unwittingly & forcefully, so y should i lose my salvation 4 the way this has happened -- it was a reult of my limitations of my autism, which is y i say someone chose 4 me - y do i have 2 pay 4 someone else's sins

...i'd gladly accept the shorter life span ( abt 5 yrs left), as long as i can keep my salvation...b'sides, who knew that a test could inject u, so no, i did not willingly choose 2 accept the mob...plus, i have been repenting daily & the bible says u wouldn't...b'sides, the bible has been altered as all the versions don't read or mean the same thing...there r passages left out of some versions & they all pretty much contridict each other

...the 1 thing they all do agree on is that no matter how the mark is taken, force or causeth, that u would know it when y c it (a lie as it's given thru deception), u will choose 2 take it (many will) & that u will do it willingly (not in my case - i only had the test done cuz it was required by the hospital 4 admittance, but i did not choose the mark & i never would have)...that's also y there's so much guesswork on what the mark is- that's what satans plan was/is...
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If you think The mark of the beast is the vaccine. Then don't get the shot. I got vaccinated. Because I wanted to, but I agree with you on the masks that don't work at all. If a lifesaving shot is the mark of the beast, so be it. I'd do it again. I had covid, and my gosh, I thought I was going to die. I had severe effects. I have asthma, so when they allowed my age group to get. I waited months, so the high-risk seniors get that shot first.
 
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but I agree with you on the masks that don't work at all.
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Oh, they work all right.

The problem is not with the masks: It's with the info and the way people are approaching it. The real question isnt "do the masks work". Instead, the question you should be asking is "HOW do the masks work".

They are not and never were meant to stop incoming stuff from hitting you... they can catch SOME of that, but not much. That's not the focus of their design (as that would require a drastically more complicate apparatus).

Rather, they are to stop what you, the one wearing the mask, expels. When you breathe outward normally, your breath doesnt magically just hang in front of your face in a sad little cloud and disappear after 30 seconds... that's not how airflow works. Rather, it spreads all over the place, filling a large area... this is why an airborne virus is so easy to catch. The air you expel carries with it droplets and such, and thus, the virus in question. And if you SNEEZE, it's a hideous bloody mess, with gross nonsense flying all over the place. Same with coughing... the force of the expelled air is increased rather drastically compared to normal breathing.

Because MOST of what you're expelling (whether breathing, coughing, or sneezing) will strike the mask before it goes anywhere else, two things happen: The force of the moving air is drastically blunted, but also, the particles/droplets... which are the real danger... catch on the mask BEFORE your breath flies all over the place.

THAT is what the masks are meant to do. That's why there's so much emphasis on EVERYONE wearing one... because that's what makes them work. It only takes one sick doofus to spread that garbage, so businesses that actually approached the problem logically just outright say "if you're coming in here, wear a mask or we'll kick you out, no exceptions".

Honestly there's an absolutely ASTONISHING amount of misinformation or outright lies flying around with this stuff. I dont mean just the masks.

My strong suggestion, @sirisue76 , and everyone else really: Dump social media. ENTIRELY. Get it out of your life. I cannot stress this enough. I often refer to the internet as a "bastion of lies and deceit". This is because it's absolutely true, and always has been. But if the internet is that, well... social media is the factory where those lies are created from the most often. People will say damn near ANYTHING to get those sweet, sweet likes, and that absolutely includes things that can harm others (not just about COVID). Pathetic, really.

So... stay off that garbage. If you MUST freaking use any of it... utterly ignore ALL "news" that you hear from it. All. Of. It.

Understand also this bit of advice is coming from someone who has been on the internet for as long as it has existed, and who very likely has drastically more experience with it than anyone else on this forum. Ignore this advice entirely at your own risk... and at the risk of those around you who you care about. Social media doesnt JUST have the potential to hurt you... but also has the potential to be a serious threat to everyone in your life, just by YOU interacting with it. That's what makes it so incredibly dangerous... even without COVID.

Of course I give that bloody warning all the freaking time and nobody ever listens to me. But then, social media is very literally designed to create an addiction to it, and addiction is very hard to break...

Also, @sirisue76 , to some degree you have to approach some things with a bit more common sense and logic. The idea of a microchip being shoved in through the vaccine is not only silly, but literally impossible... that's not how microchips work. Microchips are HUGE compared to the room inside of a syringe. Unless you can bend freaking reality to twist it in upon itself (without destroying the chip), you cant fit one in there. If any form of invasive tech were to get through a needle, it would be nanotech... and believe me, if full-on nanotech were A: achieved, and B: used for nefarious purposes, well... needles would be the LEAST of your worries. Talk about an inefficient and unnecessarily complicated way to deliver...

None of this is anything that I'm going to waste time arguing on, either, so dont try... anyone doing that will only be wasting their time, and I've heard it all before. Think about it logically, take it or leave it, ignore it entirely... it is entirely your choice. Best think carefully, though. For not just your sake but for the sake of those you care about.

There, my work here is done, as per standard protocol, you can all go back to your homes now.
 
I've never "heard the voice of God" in the sense of some big mystical experience, I've never bothered with all the wingnut preachers who misinterpret Revelation to get on the radio.

I also got my CovID shots & am planning to go for the booster when that's needed, mainly because I don't believe in risking health & life and spreading a dangerous virus. My pro-life convictions convinced me that it was not my choice, but my duty, to get vaccinated and continue wearing a face mask until the pandemic passes by.

Nowhere in Catholicism do I find anything saying "thou shalt not give a thought for thy neighbor; covet thy neighbor's cough, thou shalt not kill except that first thou sneeze upon thy hapless victim." Back in the 1980s people thought barcodes were the mark of the beast, whatever that's supposed to be. Yes. Bar codes.

I don't want to pick at you at all--you're very obviously a thoughtful person, but often it's people like you & I & the rest of us who get taken advantage of by unscrupulous preachers and popular orators.
 
Misery said:
Oh, they work all right.

The problem is not with the masks: It's with the info and the way people are approaching it. The real question isnt "do the masks work". Instead, the question you should be asking is "HOW do the masks work".

They are not and never were meant to stop incoming stuff from hitting you... they can catch SOME of that, but not much. That's not the focus of their design (as that would require a drastically more complicate apparatus).

Rather, they are to stop what you, the one wearing the mask, expels. When you breathe outward normally, your breath doesnt magically just hang in front of your face in a sad little cloud and disappear after 30 seconds... that's not how airflow works. Rather, it spreads all over the place, filling a large area... this is why an airborne virus is so easy to catch. The air you expel carries with it droplets and such, and thus, the virus in question. And if you SNEEZE, it's a hideous bloody mess, with gross nonsense flying all over the place. Same with coughing... the force of the expelled air is increased rather drastically compared to normal breathing.

Because MOST of what you're expelling (whether breathing, coughing, or sneezing) will strike the mask before it goes anywhere else, two things happen: The force of the moving air is drastically blunted, but also, the particles/droplets... which are the real danger... catch on the mask BEFORE your breath flies all over the place.

THAT is what the masks are meant to do. That's why there's so much emphasis on EVERYONE wearing one... because that's what makes them work. It only takes one sick doofus to spread that garbage, so businesses that actually approached the problem logically just outright say "if you're coming in here, wear a mask or we'll kick you out, no exceptions".

Honestly there's an absolutely ASTONISHING amount of misinformation or outright lies flying around with this stuff. I dont mean just the masks.

My strong suggestion, @sirisue76 , and everyone else really: Dump social media. ENTIRELY. Get it out of your life. I cannot stress this enough. I often refer to the internet as a "bastion of lies and deceit". This is because it's absolutely true, and always has been. But if the internet is that, well... social media is the factory where those lies are created from the most often. People will say damn near ANYTHING to get those sweet, sweet likes, and that absolutely includes things that can harm others (not just about COVID). Pathetic, really.

So... stay off that garbage. If you MUST freaking use any of it... utterly ignore ALL "news" that you hear from it. All. Of. It.

Understand also this bit of advice is coming from someone who has been on the internet for as long as it has existed, and who very likely has drastically more experience with it than anyone else on this forum. Ignore this advice entirely at your own risk... and at the risk of those around you who you care about. Social media doesnt JUST have the potential to hurt you... but also has the potential to be a serious threat to everyone in your life, just by YOU interacting with it. That's what makes it so incredibly dangerous... even without COVID.

Of course I give that bloody warning all the freaking time and nobody ever listens to me. But then, social media is very literally designed to create an addiction to it, and addiction is very hard to break...

Also, @sirisue76 , to some degree you have to approach some things with a bit more common sense and logic. The idea of a microchip being shoved in through the vaccine is not only silly, but literally impossible... that's not how microchips work. Microchips are HUGE compared to the room inside of a syringe. Unless you can bend freaking reality to twist it in upon itself (without destroying the chip), you cant fit one in there. If any form of invasive tech were to get through a needle, it would be nanotech... and believe me, if full-on nanotech were A: achieved, and B: used for nefarious purposes, well... needles would be the LEAST of your worries. Talk about an inefficient and unnecessarily complicated way to deliver...

None of this is anything that I'm going to waste time arguing on, either, so dont try... anyone doing that will only be wasting their time, and I've heard it all before. Think about it logically, take it or leave it, ignore it entirely... it is entirely your choice. Best think carefully, though. For not just your sake but for the sake of those you care about.

There, my work here is done, as per standard protocol, you can all go back to your homes now.
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I respectfully disagree with you on facemasks. Everyone wore them In my state. And They still caught it.
 
I'm gonna suggest another way 2 approach this since we all have our own views on the topic, so let me change my question to ' Can an aspie or autistc person (or asd, if u'd prefer), keep their salvation if they unknowingly take the mark of the beast if their limitations prevented them from not recognizing god's voice thru answers or prayers (being unable 2 identify when he's speaking or what he's saying), if they're unable 2 recognize warning signs (period), or if they r unable 2 understand the bible, cuz they can only see things 1 way - literally, so therefore they were unable 2 understand anything abt the mark?
 
@RobZombiefan

"Everyone wore them In my state."

Was there some sort of registry, where people vowed under oath
that they conscientiously wore a mask, while social distancing, and
following appropriate hygiene?

I think *everyone wore them* is a generalization.
 
sirisue76 said:
I'm gonna suggest another way 2 approach this since we all have our own views on the topic, so let me change my question to ' Can an aspie or autistc person (or asd, if u'd prefer), keep their salvation if they unknowingly take the mark of the beast if their limitations prevented them from not recognizing god's voice thru answers or prayers (being unable 2 identify when he's speaking or what he's saying), if they're unable 2 recognize warning signs (period), or if they r unable 2 understand the bible, cuz they can only see things 1 way - literally, so therefore they were unable 2 understand anything abt the mark?
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You know the answer to that. It is no we couldn't if there's a heaven and hell. And if that vaccine is the mark of the beast? That sends you straight to hell just for that maybe, not me because I've been agnostic for years. So if there was a God? I was on a highway to hell Long before I got the vaccine. If there was a hell and I wind up down. There it's not because I got vaccinated. It's how I lived my life.
 
I never wore masks in my state -alaska, as they weren't required in my town -- only 3 towns/cities required them - the 2 lgst cities/towns --anchorage, & fairbanks & one of the smallest, our state capitol - juneau. At lst for my state, it depends on who the governors r, as some r more lenient than others. It also depends the business owners - a couple of stores require them, some suggest that u do, but they're not enforced & others don't care. They r, however, not only enforced in any medical facility, including therapists, but u have 2 wear the ones they give u, not ur own. Anyway, everything's been this way since the whole pandemic started, so basically, i haven't been wearing any myself, unless i go into a place that enforces it.
 
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