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Might I be AuDHD?

MNAus said:
You may have a point :)
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How rude!
So, you want a flame war. <joke> :p

I think the message she was trying to give is:
1. The Autistic side wants order so we don't get information overload, and "crash and burn".
2. ADHD causes distractions, lack of focus, and makes it difficult to stay on track, causing chaos.
 
Sugar feeds hyperactive, from what I think. But quick rush and then sends energy levels on a dip, you crash. Either you feed more sugar or body searches for more stable source of energy from good diet. Takes time to wean from effects of sugar!
This is what I'm thinking, but experts are relating ADHD to magnesium deficiency too!
 
Kayla55 said:
Sugar feeds hyperactive, from what I think. But quick rush and then sends energy levels on a dip, you crash. Either you feed more sugar or body searches for more stable source of energy from good diet. Takes time to wean from effects of sugar!
This is what I'm thinking,
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That is my understanding.
 
Explain:
Glutton and sugar exist in most foods, go glutton free and realise..... So sugar in peanut butter, in ketchup, in loads stuff. But glutton is converted into type glygemic-index sugar (dr Berg on YouTube explains well about food industry ruled by carbs) so corn-sugars too,
When you realise what's in future life or sweetened powdery drinks - pure sugar mix (toxic)
Then there's sucrose, fructose etc. (Sugar alcohols or sweeteners)

It's not just spiking energy levels but long term affects insulin levels. (Hence warnings about excess xylitol or long term exposure)
 
What is connection with diabetes type 2 and ASD....(one first threads on medical) and it's not just sensory issues with food it's sugar!!!
Note diabetes type 2 spilts into low blood pressure or high and relates closely differs from blood sugar level.

If there is connection with ADHD and ASD it's possibly related to insulin
 
Jonn said:
How rude!
So, you want a flame war. <joke> :p

I think the message she was trying to give is:
1. The Autistic side wants order so we don't get information overload, and "crash and burn".
2. ADHD causes distractions, lack of focus, and makes it difficult to stay on track, causing chaos.
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Fair summary, though I'm still not keen on this "battle of the sides" narrative that comes out of these sorts of videos. It's more like having a military grade GPS autism satnav in an ADHD clown car. Your autism can mean you find order appealing, but you can't mandate that it gets its needs met, IMHO. Anyway, I'm splitting hairs here.

Just think there's too many people that think of it like Inside Out, with a little ADHD personality and ASD personality fighting it out and one goes in charge for a bit, while the other butts out. Really not like that and it's odd that it's viewed this way IMO. You don't get people also with, for instance, dyslexia saying "My autism means I have special interests so mandates I can read about them".
 
MNAus said:
I disagree on the first two points about "opposites" or "balance". They are not opposites. Example: order vs chaos. ADHD doesn't mean you desire chaos. I want my environment to be ordered, predictable and known, very much so. That gives me comfort. But the ADHD doesn't say "to hell with that, let chaos reign". The ADHD says "let's get cleared up then, but first I'll nip to the toilet" and I never get back to starting. Or "let's clear the desk. First job, wipe the laptop. Hmm low on cleaning spray, better order some online, wow, look at that, I haven't done a virus scan in a while, better do that. I wonder if I have the best virus scanner". These are not opposites. autism and ADHD are not opposites. It's just that the problems with one can actually make the other worse. Likewise, they don't balance, in that way. In the video she says the reason she doesn't have the usual ADHD messiness is because she desires things to be tidy and ordered for her autism. Most people with ADHD want precisely the same, to the point that they are mortified by their inability to get things tidied and stick to getting it done. The point is that they struggle to do so, no matter how much they'd like to, because they have a gazillion thoughts along the length of the counter in their brain, all hammering a "ring for service" bell. I know ADHD presents differently in different people, but this is something you really shouldn't miss if you're doing this kind of vid.
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I had to smile because that example you described resonates so well with me. Don't worry, I won't diagnose myself only on it. But it feels sort of comforting to see it written out like this.

It's like: I want and need order, tidiness, organization and clarity - in fact, I can barely function without it. But at the same time, I find it almost impossible to create this order and tidiness for myself. I CAN clean up my work desk, but it's a task for almost an entire day - 1, because I want to do it perfectly or not at all, 2, because I am so mentally worn out afterwards, or, 3, because I got so enthusiastic about it that, afterwards, I'll go on cleaning the kitchen and the bathroom as well (with probably a meltdown later in the evening), and because I do those also perfectly or not at all, I won't get anything else done in that day.

I have a deep admiration for people who can just on a whim say "oh, I guess I'll clean/organize this thing now, and then I'll get on with my day". And for people who manage to STAY clean and organized, and not have the cycle of tidiness and absolute chaos, accompanied by hyper-enthusiasm, tears, and deep self-frustration.
 
My Mom is ASD but since she's schitso and bi-polar she is more creative, more feminine, more social (not always fitting in, but desire to go socialise, whereas I simply don't bother)
How, only at old age home I realised she was on spectrum!!

Regarding ongoing discussions of plagerism, how do we define IQ test for intelligence, emotional intelligence and creativity. Some are genius such as fashion designer who invents new dress, others who follow trends just lending in creativity. In world where consumer benefit is above patents, I've noted website designer trends in styles, but mostly none of these are creative, they are trending.
Lady owns a small hardware up road, I buy from her at times. I can see she is exactly like I was, a women who just not fitting in with stereotype.
Then again my best friend in high school was outcast but not ASD and she really was my emotional regulator, and I really do miss her, often.
 
MNAus said:
Fair summary, though I'm still not keen on this "battle of the sides" narrative that comes out of these sorts of videos. It's more like having a military grade GPS autism satnav in an ADHD clown car. Your autism can mean you find order appealing, but you can't mandate that it gets its needs met, IMHO. Anyway, I'm splitting hairs here.

Just think there's too many people that think of it like Inside Out, with a little ADHD personality and ASD personality fighting it out and one goes in charge for a bit, while the other butts out. Really not like that and it's odd that it's viewed this way IMO. You don't get people also with, for instance, dyslexia saying "My autism means I have special interests so mandates I can read about them".
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For some of us ,there is an obvious alternation. People that know me have commented on it seeming like I have two different personalities or something. (I do NOT mean in the DID sense. There are no completely separate named alters nor are there amnesia gaps .) What they and I am referring to is that I will be very bookish and nerdy (mostly quiet but can become talkative about a subject of interest, very laid back ,enjoy reading, researching, and drinking tea)and am somewhat sensory avoidant.Then I will suddenly change (loud rapid speech, random laughter about almost everything, enjoying things like climbing trees, singing opera, galloping back and forth, want to go places and do things like learning to fly a plane ,carnival rides,various horse back sports,ect. though most of it never happens due to finances and lack of my own transportation so I just gallop, hop,spin,ect. while daydreaming about all the exciting things I plan to get out and do just as soon as I can. When I can calm down enough, I chatter in a rapid speech manner at whoever will listen about all my big plans. Then later I change back into my usual shy, quiet, nerdy self. I learn a lot when I am in nerdy mode. I can't focus enough to learn much of anything when I am in hyper mode,but I would miss that mode nevertheless if I quit having them because I am so happy and enthusiastic in those times, not that I am unhappy the rest of the time (I really enjoy my research and the like when I am in my quieter mode) just that in hyper mode I am SUPER happy.
 
I've started doing some serious research about ADHD.
I had no idea how much it has influenced my life.
I am convinced my compulsion to joke is a symptom.
Dopamine hits.
"Fascinating". 🤓
 
FayetheAspie said:
For some of us ,there is an obvious alternation. People that know me have commented on it seeming like I have two different personalities or something. (I do NOT mean in the DID sense. There are no completely separate named alters nor are there amnesia gaps .) What they and I am referring to is that I will be very bookish and nerdy (mostly quiet but can become talkative about a subject of interest, very laid back ,enjoy reading, researching, and drinking tea)and am somewhat sensory avoidant.Then I will suddenly change (loud rapid speech, random laughter about almost everything, enjoying things like climbing trees, singing opera, galloping back and forth, want to go places and do things like learning to fly a plane ,carnival rides,various horse back sports,ect. though most of it never happens due to finances and lack of my own transportation so I just gallop, hop,spin,ect. while daydreaming about all the exciting things I plan to get out and do just as soon as I can. When I can calm down enough, I chatter in a rapid speech manner at whoever will listen about all my big plans. Then later I change back into my usual shy, quiet, nerdy self. I learn a lot when I am in nerdy mode. I can't focus enough to learn much of anything when I am in hyper mode,but I would miss that mode nevertheless if I quit having them because I am so happy and enthusiastic in those times, not that I am unhappy the rest of the time (I really enjoy my research and the like when I am in my quieter mode) just that in hyper mode I am SUPER happy.
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How interesting, thanks for the insight. I guess technically neither condition precludes those activities. For example, I'm not sure being autistic means you can't climb trees, sing opera, learn to fly, ride carnival attractions or ride a horse. I think plenty of autistic people are energic and enjoy But I see what you're saying. I do enjoy text books - fiction much less so - but can get bored of them after a couple of chapters. Understood.

If I may ask a question. What happens to the traits from one condition when the other one 'takes charge'? Apart from the ebbs and flows of the human experience, I don't really have periods of hyper excitement and more thoughtful introspection alternating with such stark differences. But more than this, the traits of either condition refuse to take a back seat at any point.

Examples. I have very few instincts when it comes to in-person social exchange, it's calculated to fit the situation. I also take little from it. Regardless of how urgently I might feel the need to join in and get my thoughts on a subject out my head when I overhear a conversation, I don't regain the ability to do so without introspecting and overthinking. Conversely, there never comes a time where my mind doesn't feel like a fight in a crowded chicken house. That includes when I think it would be nice to do something on a special interest. While the dopamine rush of "ahhh, this is nice and rewarding, and fascinating, how interesting, this is cool" works for a short period, it doesn't last. My special interests are actually years of thinking "cool, let's get into this...... sigh, bored".

For me, both are always there. They don't swap.
 
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Jonn said:
I've started doing some serious research about ADHD.
I had no idea how much it has influenced my life.
I am convinced my compulsion to joke is a symptom.
Dopamine hits.
"Fascinating". 🤓
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What else have you found out?
 
MNAus said:
How interesting, thanks for the insight. I guess technically neither condition precludes those activities. For example, I'm not sure being autistic means you can't climb trees, sing opera, learn to fly, ride carnival attractions or ride a horse. I think plenty of autistic people are energic and enjoy But I see what you're saying. I do enjoy text books - fiction much less so - but can get bored of them after a couple of chapters. Understood.

If I may ask a question. What happens to the traits from one condition when the other one 'takes charge'? Apart from the ebbs and flows of the human experience, I don't really have periods of hyper excitement and more thoughtful alternating with such stark differences. But more than this, the traits of either condition refuse to take a back seat at any point.

Examples. I have very few instincts when it comes to in-person social exchange, it's calculated to fit the situation. I also take little from it. Regardless of how urgent I might feel to join in to get my thoughts on the subject out my mind when overhearing a conversation, I don't regain the ability to do so without introspecting and overthinking. Conversely, there never comes a time where my mind doesn't feel like a fight in a crowded chicken house. That includes when I think it would be nice to do something on a special interest. While the dopamine rush of "ahhh, this is nice and rewarding, and fascinating, how interesting, this is cool" works for a short period, it doesn't last. My special interests are actually years of thinking "cool, let's get into this...... sigh, bored".

For me, both are always there. They don't swap.
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I don't really know exactly. I don't think either condition actually disappears but one or the other tends to be more noticeable. Some traits seem to switch but others are constant in both modes. Sometimes some traits are hard to tell which condition they come from. I guess it just seems like my asd is usually the most noticeable (I typically fit the nerd stereotype that some people expect of everyone on the spectrum even though we don't really all present that way) even though I do fidget alot which might be more the adhd. When the hyperactivity and elated mood take over it just seems like my adhd must be going full force and overriding my asd. But then again some asd features like stimming are probably actually more at those times as well.🤷🏼‍♀️
 
MNAus said:
What else have you found out?
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I have known the following all my life but didn't understand it was due to my ADHD:

Interrupting ppl when they talk, and trying to finish their sentences.
I don't seem to have that particular problem any longer.
Perhaps my abstinence (to a large degree) of caffeine might have something to do with it.
 
FayetheAspie said:
For some of us ,there is an obvious alternation. People that know me have commented on it seeming like I have two different personalities or something. (I do NOT mean in the DID sense. There are no completely separate named alters nor are there amnesia gaps .) What they and I am referring to is that I will be very bookish and nerdy (mostly quiet but can become talkative about a subject of interest, very laid back ,enjoy reading, researching, and drinking tea)and am somewhat sensory avoidant.Then I will suddenly change (loud rapid speech, random laughter about almost everything, enjoying things like climbing trees, singing opera, galloping back and forth, want to go places and do things like learning to fly a plane ,
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Masking can cause misdiagnosis, and it was sort of diagnosing multiple-personality in the old days. I still blank out over early teen meltdowns, it was causing havoc as I'd agree to go out and then rethink this.
 
Hey, being in slump whole week over my boys hyperactive mess, and made firm decision -no meds
So slowly getting myself back to the usual don't give up, keep searching, beeee positive and was hoping to share this and see if anyone else wants to try and give feedback as lately my positivity is lagging and I could do with some feedback.

I've personally tried coq10 for my alteimers and noticed it's really good for gut microbes (and my alteimers) Bit expensive but I need to get some more, again. The others vitamins I don't know,

 
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