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Hi, I’m Catherine, I’m recently coming to terms with having Asperger’s, (not officially diagnosed but pretty sure I’ve got it), so thought I’d sign up with the forum. My younger brother was diagnosed many moons ago but I was only put forward for dyslexia diagnosis when I was 16. I’m 33 now and have gone to the Doctors over the years for depression and anxiety, had CBT for social anxiety and always thought I just needed to behave like a normal grown-up, try harder, everyone else can function fine, I should too. I’ve always failed at job interviews and could never understand why I was so inept at communicating, but not being neurotypical would explain it.

I’m hoping to learn more about the condition so I can understand myself better and where I best fit in with the world.
understand if you become a member of this forum you could post something be completely ignored its very demoralsing to be ignored when youre autistic on an autism forum ,i like you have anxiety and not one member showed any!!!! concern i had been in hospital but whats the point of saying that nobody cares
 
Hi, I’m Catherine, I’m recently coming to terms with having Asperger’s, (not officially diagnosed but pretty sure I’ve got it), so thought I’d sign up with the forum. My younger brother was diagnosed many moons ago but I was only put forward for dyslexia diagnosis when I was 16. I’m 33 now and have gone to the Doctors over the years for depression and anxiety, had CBT for social anxiety and always thought I just needed to behave like a normal grown-up, try harder, everyone else can function fine, I should too. I’ve always failed at job interviews and could never understand why I was so inept at communicating, but not being neurotypical would explain it.

I’m hoping to learn more about the condition so I can understand myself better and where I best fit in with the world.


You sound a lot like me! I grew up with the same attitude being 'forced down my throat' so to speak, I've had exactly two job interviews in my life, precisely because I knew I'd be absolutely impossible at them. (had huge issues with speech, and verbal communication in general, never mind the whole 'social' aspect of them.) I will grant that both did result in jobs, at least temporarily. One of which was volunteer. But my difficulty with 'normal' communication, and socialization was one of the reasons I 'hid' at University for so many years. (many, many years). I have virtually no employment history at 44, because of this barrier, and the fact that nobody would recognize it. (except for the dr. who diagnosed me and was a huge support all through university. Long story.) When I was still interested in the whole 'employment' thing, I always said that I'd have no problem keeping a job once I got one, but that I was going to need a whole lot of support in order to be able to get one in the first place. Nobody around here knew what to do with an intelligent, communication impaired, otherwise apparently competent person. Educated, or not. (both time periods). Part of the problem is that I can 'fake it' to some extent, and have had superficially adequate speech since I was little, but getting people to understand what it took out of me was a whole different story! Even when I was having obvious functioning difficulties, and autistic catatonia issues. ... And then there was the incident of discrimination and harassment during my second undergrad degree that lead to PTSD, and well... put the end of everything in that sense. (PTSD free now, BTW).

Random note of interest: I've read it's pretty typical for women not to be diagnosed until their 30's or 40's, when 'playing the game' of being NT gets to be too much, and overwhelms. I reached that point in my mid-teens.
 
understand if you become a member of this forum you could post something be completely ignored its very demoralsing to be ignored when youre autistic on an autism forum ,i like you have anxiety and not one member showed any!!!! concern i had been in hospital but whats the point of saying that nobody cares

I agree, it's hard when you are ignored by people you think will understand you, especially if you've already got neglect and abandonment issues rampaging through your mind (like I have had a history of). It does exacerbate things, but sometimes when we are very emotional, the emotion all but 'screams' off the page, and those emotions can be difficult for other people to deal with, especially for those who already have a hard time managing emotions. That's the downside of having intense emotions.

I'm not sure this is the right place to express such feelings though, especially since it may scare off new members who greatly need the help. And everything i've seen in my short time here suggests people are generally welcoming.

When faced with overwhelming emotions, one's own, or someine else's, it is instinct, I think, to flinch away, and try to avoid them, as a self protective mechanism. It takes someone with a lot of emotional strength, and stability of their own to handle someone else's intense emotions. Especially the negative ones.

I wonder if this is what my first autism specialist was trying to tell me years ago, during a particularly bad point in my life? She didn't phrase it near as delicately, and I was in such a bad place mentally and emotionally, that I interpreted what she did say in the worst possible way, and couldn't 'hear' anything else. (It was an email exchange). In that case, no response would've felt better than the response she sent, even though half my distress was over the lack of responses to any of my cries for help.

She suggested i was being too negative in my communications, and that I needed to be more positive in what i said. I was too depressed and hopeless feeling to be able to be positive in any sense. I felt that she was telling me, like so many people had, over the years, that I was innately defective because I was so depressed and cynical. I thought she was telling me she didn't want to work with me any more and I couldn't stand the thought of having to deal with the NT world without her support, and belief in me, on top of all my other problems. She later assured me that's not what she meant, and that made things good enough to allow me to enjoy my youngest niece's first real Christmas (@ about 14 months old)

When you add in that most people, autistic, or NT don't really deal well with emotions, and especially emotional problems well in the first place, it's not surprising that intensely expressed emotions sometimes get one the opposite response we wanted. Society certainly doesn't encourage direct management of emotions or emotional difficulties! It prefers we ignore, or deny them. It is only very recently that discussing mental health issues has not been taboo. Society is gradually starting to realize we all need to address mental health issues, and be accepting of them. COVID has at least brought the issue more into everyone's awareness. I am hoping that will lead to permanent positive changes.
 
understand if you become a member of this forum you could post something be completely ignored its very demoralsing to be ignored when youre autistic on an autism forum ,i like you have anxiety and not one member showed any!!!! concern i had been in hospital but whats the point of saying that nobody cares

I’m a member of a few forums including a social anxiety forum and have always posted with the mindset that it doesn’t matter if people reply, only that people read. It’s my own personal internal safety mechanism I developed so I don’t feel down when no-one replies, with the reasoning that I don’t always reply myself so I cannot expect others to do so. I’m aware I can read a post and feel sympathy but be unable to work out an appropriate response so elect not to respond at all, I’m also prone to migraines and sometimes avoid responding as I know it would require too much mental energy to formulate a proper response and potentially instigate a 2-3 day migraine.

I tend to post for the catharsis of getting my thoughts or experiences written down, even if no-one replies, those experiences have still been shared and I try and focus on that being the point. It’s always nicer to have that confirmation that your words have been received by someone but I try and take it for granted that my words have been read and perhaps resonated with someone who for whatever reason is unable to reply. I might be a bit too crazy and too accustomed to talking to myself but I’d be content just to have a space to get thoughts out into the ether, knowing someone out there has read and maybe even related to my experience. People care, but sometimes we can't always articulate it. I do honestly hope you feel better as it sounds like you've had a lot on your shoulders recently.
 
Hello and welcome, did anyone ever explained why you failed his job interwiew?

I’ve not had it explained why I fail in interview but I doubt I need it explained as I’m aware how clunky and awkward my dialogue is when I talk under pressure. I sound very unsure of myself, and come across as a bit stupid as I have trouble articulating what I mean, appearing like I don’t know what I’m talking about and clearly struggle to answer the questions in a way that’s expected of me. Even while I’m talking I’m embarrassed about the word soup that’s falling out of my mouth lol. My mouth and brain often don’t seem well connected. ideally I'd need to script and rehearse my responses well ahead of time but often go in to interview not knowing quite what to expect.
 
I agree, it's hard when you are ignored by people you think will understand you, especially if you've already got neglect and abandonment issues rampaging through your mind (like I have had a history of). It does exacerbate things, but sometimes when we are very emotional, the emotion all but 'screams' off the page, and those emotions can be difficult for other people to deal with, especially for those who already have a hard time managing emotions. That's the downside of having intense emotions.

I'm not sure this is the right place to express such feelings though, especially since it may scare off new members who greatly need the help. And everything i've seen in my short time here suggests people are generally welcoming.

When faced with overwhelming emotions, one's own, or someine else's, it is instinct, I think, to flinch away, and try to avoid them, as a self protective mechanism. It takes someone with a lot of emotional strength, and stability of their own to handle someone else's intense emotions. Especially the negative ones.

I wonder if this is what my first autism specialist was trying to tell me years ago, during a particularly bad point in my life? She didn't phrase it near as delicately, and I was in such a bad place mentally and emotionally, that I interpreted what she did say in the worst possible way, and couldn't 'hear' anything else. (It was an email exchange). In that case, no response would've felt better than the response she sent, even though half my distress was over the lack of responses to any of my cries for help.

She suggested i was being too negative in my communications, and that I needed to be more positive in what i said. I was too depressed and hopeless feeling to be able to be positive in any sense. I felt that she was telling me, like so many people had, over the years, that I was innately defective because I was so depressed and cynical. I thought she was telling me she didn't want to work with me any more and I couldn't stand the thought of having to deal with the NT world without her support, and belief in me, on top of all my other problems. She later assured me that's not what she meant, and that made things good enough to allow me to enjoy my youngest niece's first real Christmas (@ about 14 months old)

When you add in that most people, autistic, or NT don't really deal well with emotions, and especially emotional problems well in the first place, it's not surprising that intensely expressed emotions sometimes get one the opposite response we wanted. Society certainly doesn't encourage direct management of emotions or emotional difficulties! It prefers we ignore, or deny them. It is only very recently that discussing mental health issues has not been taboo. Society is gradually starting to realize we all need to address mental health issues, and be accepting of them. COVID has at least brought the issue more into everyone's awareness. I am hoping that will lead to permanent positive changes.

I think this is a very good point and I think it’s certainly appropriate to be shared here. Thank you for sharing all your experiences, I can certainly relate to much of it.
 
I’ve not had it explained why I fail in interview but I doubt I need it explained as I’m aware how clunky and awkward my dialogue is when I talk under pressure. I sound very unsure of myself, and come across as a bit stupid as I have trouble articulating what I mean, appearing like I don’t know what I’m talking about and clearly struggle to answer the questions in a way that’s expected of me. Even while I’m talking I’m embarrassed about the word soup that’s falling out of my mouth lol. My mouth and brain often don’t seem well connected. ideally I'd need to script and rehearse my responses well ahead of time but often go in to interview not knowing quite what to expect.

This was always a good part of my issue too! Rehearsing, or even the expectation that I could rehearse, and that it would help, (usually with another stranger, or barely known person!) only made things worse!

I've been coming to realize that I've got a whole lot of trauma around the issue of employment, that's never even been acknowledged, never mind addressed!
 

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