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Not the freak

Kwik6six

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After reading several posts, and despite my strong inclination against it, I decided to join this forum.

I am self diagnosed Asperger's. As a child I was forced to see a child psychologist. That was way back in the 70's, so this wasn't really widely discussed. I was branded hyperactive and immediately placed on drugs.

I distinctly remember the incident that caused me to switch from being friendly and sociable to mistrusting human beings and it was years before the child psychologist...it was the first day of 1st grade at a new school when instantly upon arrival to the playground, 2 boys grabbed me, held me against a wall and a third bowed down and ran his head into my abdomen. When I reported it, I was told that I must have done something to provoke the attack! Boom, instant mistrust of children and adults.

This pattern continued. I am apparently a super genius. I taught myself how to write cursive in the 2nd grade. When I brought it in for show and tell, the teacher snatched my paper out of my hand, crunched it up and threw it away. Then she grabbed me by my hair and dragged me back to my desk, slamming me into my chair and told me "I an the teacher here...you don't learn anything until I teach it to you!". I reported that incident to my parents, who went to the school and were told that it never happened! Reinforcing my mistrust of lying human adults.

It was the following year that same school convinced my parents I was incorrigible and needed psychiatric help.

School boundaries changed and 5th grade was a new school. THANK GOD (sorta).

I always finished in-class assignments way before anyone else except this one girl. Our teacher would allow us to work ahead. By the end of the first quarter, i was in 7th grade level reading and math. By the end of that year, I was in Kunior level COLLEGE reading and 8th grade math. (I was reading before kindergarten).

When 6th grade started, I was tested and found to have an IQ of 164! I was then promoted to 7th grade...a whole new school AND format (no more single class/teacher).

My honest and serious nature combined with my intelligence of course brought on much bullying..to which those in power once again said I was the cause. In 8th grade, I had finally had enough with being beaten up and nobody ever stopping it and when one kid was pulling his crap I totally snapped and beat the living daylights out of him. I if course was again branded an incorrigible violent problem child...the pattern continued.

Enough history. I am now pushing 54 and am more misanthropic than ever. My ability to clearly see patterns, I believe, is because I do not feel like I am part of the human race, and therefore observe it from outside..like the rats in a maze do not realize they are in the maze.

I find most human behavior to be abhorrent and evil. Like many of you, I find the occasional human to be acceptable to talk to and actually have made very few friends. I agree that the internet/Facebook have completely destroyed the meaning of the word "friend". When watching TV, I see and understand that not ALL humans are retarded mindless ape-creatures, but I compare human existence to swimming through the New York City raw sewage system in search of a tenth carat diamond.
 
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It's a quagmire, takes a lot not to become a swamp creature but hi iq won't get you out, it's a social ape colony. Welcome to site.
 
I find most human behavior to be abhorrent and evil. Like many of you, I find the occasional human to be acceptable to talk to and actually have made very few friends. I agree that the internet/Facebook have completely destroyed the meaning of the word "friend". When watching TV, I see and understand that not ALL humans are retarded mindless ape-creatures, but I compare human existence to swimming through the New York City raw sewage system in search of a tenth carat diamond.

Pretty much. The line forms here. Welcome to Autism Forums.
 
Hi and welcome. Sorry that you went through all that, it sounds very disturbing. I hope you enjoy it here, be good to read your comments in the threads.

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Reading your post there, well....

Welcome not just to the forums, but also the spectrum itself. I know some people will talk about wanting a cure and such, and that's fine. But me, I look at how "normal" people act, and I think to myself "I dodged a bullet here... I coulda been like THAT" and then shudder.

Your description of what happened during school is horrifying. Though at the same time not at all surprising.

I was born in 81, and while my school experiences werent quite as "blatant" as that (any teacher acting like that at the time WOULD have been soon fired) it still was nothing but negative.

Everyone around me always thinks I'm oh-so-smart, that I know all sorts of things, I must have done so well in school. But I always correct them: It's because I DID NOT do well in school. I recognized it for what it was, a giant toxic waste of time, and paid attention to absolutely nothing. Learned stuff on my own (particularly computers, back in the days of DOS), outside of school. That's why I know stuff. 12 or so bloody years of "school" and I only learned 3 things there: basic arithmetic, reading/writing, and typing. That's it. Nothing else. 12 years, and nothing else. Ridiculous.

Well, no, I learned a 4th thing there: People are slime. All the bullies and whatnot.

These days I dont even use the word "people". If you were to hear me talk IRL, I always replace that with "idiots". It's automatic. "Sure were alot of idiots at the gas station today", that sort of talking.

But hey, on this forum we try to NOT be a bunch of walking sacks of cat turds, so hopefully you will find that this place doesnt suck.


I apologize if that was a bit disjointed there, I had a ton of caffeine before posting this. But yeah, mostly I'm just saying that I sympathize with alot of what you said. I think you'll find many of us on here do.

There, I'll shut up now.
 
Sigh! Back in the 70s Asperger's didn't exist as a diagnosis. I am a bit older than you but I grew up in a similar environment.

The official story was that if you had social issues it was because of the bad choices you made. I got into a debate with a sociology teacher once in high school about it. (He, at least, was a nice guy and open-minded.) The old nature vs. nurture debate. The line being taught was that all human behavior was a choice. If you were socially awkward, either you were taught that way (bad parents) or traumatized that way (also because of your parents.) Either way, it was up to you to decide to be a better person.

That was within the school system. Outside the schools, we had conservative moralism. If you didn't thrive and prosper it was because you were either a sinner and God doesn't allow sinners to prosper. (Or if he does it is because he is using them somehow.) Or because God is testing you. If you behave oddly, it was because you'd failed to resist temptation. If you really loved God, none of this would matter.

Either way, at the level of the student it was simply a case of; Your problem. Not ours. You deal with it.

Schools - and most teachers - always pick the path of least resistance. That means sweeping unhappy things under the rug. Even in the 90s and with a "progressive" school system we literally had to go to war with the school system to get our daughter an IEP. More cost for them, more work for them. If it was an attack by a bully, then there'd be the bully's parents to deal with. That is an insane level of hassle for them and if there is any possible way to blow the parents off they will. That is just how organizations - and the people who are a part of them - work.

I'm beyond all that hate. It is pointless. Hating something never changes it. It only makes my own life more difficult. Life is tough and there is no point in carrying all that weight with you to make it tougher.
 
Childhood can be a rude awaking for a lot of us. I tried to fit in but social awkwardness, with one evil kid thrown in was strange. I remember meeting the next door kid who proudly showed me a skinned squirrel on a board, of course now l wonder if he is a serial killer. The older teenager turned me on to the Beatles first album which we listen to over and over. l had the requisite haunted house, more like haunted one room shed, a children's library, and the woods in back of my house. My teachers mostly were nice, along with most of the kids.

Sorry to hear of how dismal your childhood was, and l hope you feel part of the tribe and enjoy posting your thoughts and ideas. Sounds like you are familiar with New York?
 
Ummm. Speechless. I like squirrels but l am not going to knock your dinner choices.

In a way there must be some social element to such things. Like rabbits are cute, but they are somewhat acceptable to eat, deer are cute or just kind of impressive sometimes if they are bucks and they are ok to eat.

But a kid with a skinned anything on a board would concern me
 
I have some of the same experiences, but with only one instance of direct bullying by a teacher, but no teachers being interested in anything that happened.

It messes with your head. But it isn’t that people are evil, it’s just like young males asserting dominance and teachers being lazy because ignoring or accusing takes less effort than doing something about a complicated issue.
 
I had a teacher snatch a paper out of my hand in front of the class as well. it is weird that teachers would bully students. i remember being yelled to shut up in fifth grade by the librarian. and i remember just accepting it, and i didnt realize how big of a deal it was because the students were really responding like, wow she just yelled at a kid like that
 
I had a teacher snatch a paper out of my hand in front of the class as well. it is weird that teachers would bully students. i remember being yelled to shut up in fifth grade by the librarian. and i remember just accepting it, and i didnt realize how big of a deal it was because the students were really responding like, wow she just yelled at a kid like that


 
Sounds a lot like my school experiences.
High IQ, ahead of the other students, bigger/taller than others my age, glasses, acne and braces.
Yeah, I caught a lot of bullying.

I didn't have friends as a child and then in first grade the same type of incidents happened.
Kids made fun because I preferred to be to myself during recess. Loved to swing. Lay back
and try to go high as I could just pretending I was going into the sky and clouds.
Tried being with the other kids and I was physically picked on too.
Like throwing sand in my face or trying to get me to trip over their foot. Such foolishness.

I was put into the class for the trouble makers in first grade. They had two different class rooms.
By 7th grade my intellect was ridiculed by the other students.
The school nurse called my Mom in several times saying something was wrong with me since I didn't
socialize as expected and she should take me to a psych.
Panic attacks and OCD set in at age 13. I was home schooled through high school.
No one knew about ASD back in those days.

The psych I was taken to said I showed emotional signs of abuse and tried to blame my parents.
Couldn't have been further from the truth. I was catered to by them and had all the love you could want.
That's just the way it was back in my youth.

So, I hear you.
I wasn't diagnosed until I was in my 50's.
It made a big difference to understand myself better and joining the forums helped
so much. Finding others of like mind to share and learn with.

I hope you like it here too, as much as I have. Welcome! :)
 

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