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Phenylethylamine; a godsend for autistics

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Derek Jeffries

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Phenylethylamine is an endogenous stimulant produced by your body which amphetamine and methamphetamine work by imitating.

It also happens to be the only thing (aside from cannabis, whch barely puts the brakes on it anymore) which alleviates my OCD symptoms.
This seems counterintuitive, but I observed the same effect when I did meth a year and a half ago- an overabundance of energy combined with a deep sense of calm, as well as a reduction in OCD symptoms through a peculiar mechanism:
At the time my problem with OCD was (ironically) obsessive scratching of the face, but upon taking meth, I experienced a greater compulsion to scratch my face at the same time as an even greater sense of control over my behavior and hence of my ability to resist compulsions.
Basically, it treats it through the opposite method as when I was prescribed clonazopam for it on the idea that my OCD was caused by underlying anxiety- and so I experience temporary relief of symptoms through a simple dulling of mental processes.
Phenylethylamine does not get rid of anxiety- if anything anxiety becomes more prevelant, but you interpret it differently; life seems more demanding, but you are more able to meet those demands; the negative affect associated with having to engage with things is removed. A significant portion of the reduction in OCD symptoms is simply the reduction in the overall atmosphere of defeat and demoralization that allows OCD to take control, as well as the exhaustion that makes anxiety so unbearable.

This is all to a large degree because of the uncanny ability of amphetamine like drugs to increase executive function, the deficiency of which is one of the halmarks of both autism and ADHD.
And this is why I think they are miracle drugs (except meth because its a neurotoxin that can last almost 24 hours) because deficits in executive function make every other symptom of autism worse- in fact the largest determining factor in whether or npt an autistic person will become functional or not isnt intelligence but executive function.
Phenylethylamine allows me to wash my hands for 20 seconds and leave it at that- it lets me clean my room without getting a headache and make plans for the near future, and a whole series of other functions that are normally just shut off. PEA flips the on switch back on- pulls me out pf fixed patterns of behavior and forces me to engage with my life. I recomend it- and I recomend that anyone who can gets an adderrall prescription as well since PEA only lasts 30 minutes.
 
Why you should get on speed.....
Well, maybe not speed, but at least Phenylethylamine, the endogenous version pelroduced by your body. Why do I say this? Doesnt it seem a bit counterintuitive? Wont it make anxiety and OCD worse?
Well aparently not; from that one tike I did meth to all the PEA Ive consumed, Ive found that amphetsmine type stimulants have both energizing and calming effects that genocide social anxiety and OCD.
 
YUCK!!!!!

Do not come here promoting how "CALM" you felt doing meth, and how this makes you have the same feeling. You don't know how many people I've seen go to prison or have to bury. So NO to THAT.

Whatever you're going through, I can guarantee my stressors right now are that times a thousand. Adapt and deal with it.

I don't have time for this. Nor do I care if it's legal. Have fun ruining your family and your community.

Hope I never see you on the back of a stolen bmx with a bag of cans.
 
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Yeshuasdaughter said:
YUCK!!!!!

Do not come here promoting how "CALM" you felt doing meth, and how this makes you have the same feeling. You don't know how many people I've seen go to prison or have to bury. So NO to THAT.

Whatever you're going through, I can guarantee my stressors right now are that times a thousand. Adapt and deal with it.

I don't have time for this. Nor do I care if it's legal. Have fun ruining your family and your community.

Hope I never see you on the back of a stolen bmx with a bag of cans.
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I explicitly said this does not apply to meth since its a neurotoxin, not even counting the impurities. I was recommending prescribed amphetamines or supplemented PEA, and even then preferably PEA since it doesnt lead to altered gene expression, weight loss, adiction or dependency.

Its also worthwhile to point out the contibgency of contemporary attitudes towards amphetamines. They were given to soldiers on both sides of WW2 to make them fight harder, kept them awake longer and increase their chances of survival if their plane crashed, and were prescribed extensively throughout the 50s and 60s for anxiety and depression until the hippies got fond of them so they banned them. Until then they stocked the benzedrine right next to the nodoze. Conservative Icons like Ayn Rand consumed massive amounts of it on a daily basis. In the 50s it was considered a conservative drug, after all it mafe you work harder, which fit nicely into the protestant work ethic.
 
Yeshuasdaughter said:
YUCK!!!!!

Do not come here promoting how "CALM" you felt doing meth, and how this makes you have the same feeling. You don't know how many people I've seen go to prison or have to bury. So NO to THAT.

Whatever you're going through, I can guarantee my stressors right now are that times a thousand. Adapt and deal with it.

I don't have time for this. Nor do I care if it's legal. Have fun ruining your family and your community.

Hope I never see you on the back of a stolen with a bag of cans.
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Also, PEA is in Cacao- its partly responsible for the stimulating and euphoric effects of chocolate, along with caffiene, theobromine and tryptophan.
 
Methamphetamine is very dangerous. It's so toxic that a man can become poisoned just by handling it. Meth is one of the most common street drugs. Meth usually causes brain permanent brain damage, so does MDMA(which is often called xtasy or just x)

Self medication is a poor practice and taking supplements without medical advice can basically be the same as self medicating.

There is no such thing as a safe street drug. Most of the street drugs are made by smarter ( or less damaged) drug users out of substituted chemicals. Very little of the illegal drugs one can buy or acquire are professionally made. Even if something looks like a pill, that doesn't mean it was made in a lab, all that means is that the chopped up psycho cooking the dope has acquired something called a pill mold, which is alot like a cupcake tin in shape, only smaller. Such issue is readily available from a variety of sources

Fentanyl is one of the most dangerous and toxic chemicals that exists. It is being used as an addative to other drugs, because it is cheaper, and somewhat easier to get. Fentanyl is so toxic that people have been poisoned and died from handling a packaged product. That's right, died from touching the wrapper it comes in.

The real trouble with buying dope, is you never really know what you are getting. Often the drug dealer doesn't know what they are selling. Drug dealers are all assholes. The best definition of a dope dealer is an axe hole, who has a gun, and cares more about money than he does people.

Dealers cultivate relationships with their victims. The victims often feel that the dealer is their friend. The dealer/user/facilitator is not your friend. Friends do not poison each other. Friends do not threaten violence, nor acquire property in lieu of debts. Friends do not turn you into a slave. Dope dealers do all those things. A dope dealer is not your friend, behind your back they mock and ridicule you, and brag about turning you out as soon as it's convenient for them.

Derek it sounds like you may have learned some valuable things about yourself through experimentation. And you have so far survived the experience. Did you know that you can tell a doctor about what you just posted? A doctor has to follow strict rules about disclosure, that is telling anyone about your person, condition or treatment. A doctor will not turn you in to the police for relating to them what you have shared here. A therapist or a shrink are bound by the same rules, they are not allowed to turn you in either.

It's not ok with me for you to encourage people here to experiment with drugs, or suggest that people combine a supplement with medication that they take.

Many of these things like schizoid, ADHD, bipolar, autism, borderline personality disorder and others have symptoms that they share in common. It seems that in some people we can have more than one of those at once, like ASD and Schizotypal.

I would like to suggest that you talk to your therapist or doctor or psychiatrist or whomever it is that you see and tell them about what you have been taking and why.

Please stay away from drug people, and drug dealers. Please do not encourage people here to experiment with drugs. Please do not encourage people here to attempt self diagnosis or self medication
 
Yeshuasdaughter said:
YUCK!!!!!

Do not come here promoting how "CALM" you felt doing meth, and how this makes you have the same feeling. You don't know how many people I've seen go to prison or have to bury. So NO to THAT.

Whatever you're going through, I can guarantee my stressors right now are that times a thousand. Adapt and deal with it.

I don't have time for this. Nor do I care if it's legal. Have fun ruining your family and your community.

Hope I never see you on the back of a stolen bmx with a bag of cans.
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Ephedrine is another naturally occuring amphetamine, although it comes from a plant only and is npt produced by the body. Tje FDA banned its sale, but its not illegal to possess. In fact the plant that contains it grows all over the west coast. Its called Mormon tea because the mormons used to drink it instead of coffee.
 
Skittlebisquit said:
Methamphetamine is very dangerous. It's so toxic that a man can become poisoned just by handling it. Meth is one of the most common street drugs. Meth usually causes brain permanent brain damage, so does MDMA(which is often called xtasy or just x)

Self medication is a poor practice and taking supplements without medical advice can basically be the same as self medicating.

There is no such thing as a safe street drug. Most of the street drugs are made by smarter ( or less damaged) drug users out of substituted chemicals. Very little of the illegal drugs one can buy or acquire are professionally made. Even if something looks like a pill, that doesn't mean it was made in a lab, all that means is that the chopped up psycho cooking the dope has acquired something called a pill mold, which is alot like a cupcake tin in shape, only smaller. Such issue is readily available from a variety of sources

Fentanyl is one of the most dangerous and toxic chemicals that exists. It is being used as an addative to other drugs, because it is cheaper, and somewhat easier to get. Fentanyl is so toxic that people have been poisoned and died from handling a packaged product. That's right, died from touching the wrapper it comes in.

The real trouble with buying dope, is you never really know what you are getting. Often the drug dealer doesn't know what they are selling. Drug dealers are all assholes. The best definition of a dope dealer is an axe hole, who has a gun, and cares more about money than he does people.

Dealers cultivate relationships with their victims. The victims often feel that the dealer is their friend. The dealer/user/facilitator is not your friend. Friends do not poison each other. Friends do not threaten violence, nor acquire property in lieu of debts. Friends do not turn you into a slave. Dope dealers do all those things. A dope dealer is not your friend, behind your back they mock and ridicule you, and brag about turning you out as soon as it's convenient for them.

Derek it sounds like you may have learned some valuable things about yourself through experimentation. And you have so far survived the experience. Did you know that you can tell a doctor about what you just posted? A doctor has to follow strict rules about disclosure, that is telling anyone about your person, condition or treatment. A doctor will not turn you in to the police for relating to them what you have shared here. A therapist or a shrink are bound by the same rules, they are not allowed to turn you in either.

It's not ok with me for you to encourage people here to experiment with drugs, or suggest that people combine a supplement with medication that they take.

Many of these things like schizoid, ADHD, bipolar, autism, borderline personality disorder and others have symptoms that they share in common. It seems that in some people we can have more than one of those at once, like ASD and Schizotypal.

I would like to suggest that you talk to your therapist or doctor or psychiatrist or whomever it is that you see and tell them about what you have been taking and why.

Please stay away from drug people, and drug dealers. Please do not encourage people here to experiment with drugs. Please do not encourage people here to attempt self diagnosis or self medication
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Please read the post before replying. I explicitly say meth is not good to use for a very long list of reasons that do not apply to PEA or ephedrine. These are natural chemicals produced by the cacao and ephedra sinica plants, and in the case of PEA by your own body as well.
That's right, your very own body is already pumping this Phenylethylamone into your veins right now. Some people, those with adhd or depression, tend to have lower levels of it, so whats the difference between that and supplementing a vitamin? Its literally an amino acid.
 
Derek Jeffries said:
I explicitly said this does not apply to meth since its a neurotoxin, not even counting the impurities. I was recommending prescribed amphetamines or supplemented PEA, and even then preferably PEA since it doesnt lead to altered gene expression, weight loss, adiction or dependency.

Its also worthwhile to point out the contibgency of contemporary attitudes towards amphetamines. They were given to soldiers on both sides of WW2 to make them fight harder, kept them awake longer and increase their chances of survival if their plane crashed, and were prescribed extensively throughout the 50s and 60s for anxiety and depression until the hippies got fond of them so they banned them. Until then they stocked the benzedrine right next to the nodoze. Conservative Icons like Ayn Rand consumed massive amounts of it on a daily basis. In the 50s it was considered a conservative drug, after all it mafe you work harder, which fit nicely into the protestant work ethic.
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You seem to be promoting recreational drug use. There is good reason for those chemicals to be controlled substances, it's because they are dangerous, addictive, and cause long term and permanent harm
 
Derek Jeffries said:
Please read the post before replying. I explicitly say meth is not good to use for a very long list of reasons that do not apply to PEA or ephedrine. These are natural chemicals produced by the cacao and ephedra sinica plants, and in the case of PEA by your own body as well.
That's right, your very own body is already pumping this Phenylethylamone into your veins right now. Some people, those with adhd or depression, tend to have lower levels of it, so whats the difference between that and supplementing a vitamin? Its literally an amino acid.
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I read your post carefully and I know what you are saying
 
This forum is open both to minors and to those who are adjudicated as requiring a conservatorship. Your promotion and advocacy for drug use and supplements is both misleading and dangerous to minors and at risk adults
 
Skittlebisquit said:
Ephedra is a very dangerous substance.
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Ephedra is a plant that has been used in chinese medicine for thousands of years. If ypu ask me these herbologists have a better ides of what theyre doing anyway.
This is the kind of thinking that is destroying our civilization. The banning of ancient medicinal herbs for "safety" by the FDA is a perfect example of this
 
What you have learned about yourself is valuable information for you to have learned

About you

ADHD patients, who are under a doctor's care are often prescribed a stimulant type of drug. Diagnosing yourself by experimenting with drugs and supplements is like shooting a bow straight up and trying not to get hit
 
Ephedra is a regulated substance for a reason. There is a big difference between learning about yourself and promoting dangerous practices in at risk and compromised individuals
 
Skittlebisquit said:
Ephedra is a regulated substance for a reason. There is a big difference between learning about yourself and promoting dangerous practices in at risk and compromised individuals
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I happen to think that peoples quality of life could be improved by it, so I would like people to have a better understanding of them.

The reason is paternalism; but let me ask you this, was society more socially stable when there were opium dens accross the country or today when opium is completely illegal? Any honest analysis will hold out Nietzsches obsrrvstion that it is only when a society is already decadent that the government feels the need to micromanage the lives of its citizens. So, in the 1800s, when everyone was assured of the resilience of societys values, they didnt see opium as a threat.
 
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