Sad (alone, jobless, and living in my parent's house)

[All-Rounder]

Yeah, I don't like stores because of that, because they're always full of people.

My adoptive mother also tells everyone everything about me and plays victim, so does my adoptive father, the other day I caught her talking to one of her friends about me in a very not so good way and that made me upset. I've never known why they hate me so, maybe because I'm not "normal"

They adore my sister tho, because she is "normal"

People in this town think that I'm the bad guy abusing a pair of elderly people, when all I do is exist. My ex-wife is like that as well. Those are narcissistic traits I've come to learn and growing up with narcissists is horrible, more so marrying one.

I think they are destroying your image so that you are locked out from outside help. Even so people have been helpful to me, especially when they're at their job, although some have spoken about me in front of me as I was trying to shop, no decency to even hold it back until I leave. The casheer told her colleague repeatedly and loudly "but shes pretty, but shes pretty, but shes pretty" as though they were making me out to be insane, but pretty.

They are quick to label me insane, to throw around diagnosis as mere people with no studies, and I have a feeling some narcissist I know has contributed to it. If you see a psychologist some people automatically label you as insane, you can see how nobody here really takes care of their issues, and they become out of hand with strangers and each other.

 

[trustinnerwisdom]

I did read about it and I believe I have that and not BPD

I grew up in an extremely emotionally abusive family and an extremely abusive town, I was relentlessly bullied in school, and then I'd come home and be relentlessly bullied by my adoptive father. I was never enough for them, and they made me believe that there was something very wrong with me, when there was absolutely nothing wrong with me.

They ghosted me into becoming insecure, abused me to do what they wanted me to do with MY life, they are such horrible people and I have ended back in their claws.

I also believe that they knew I have autism and did everything in their power to hide it from everyone, because they were ashamed of it. Some friends of them talk to me softly, and I always noticed they treated me differently from everyone else. That would explain their persistence and abuse into me hiding my traits because they were "wrong"

So how do you cope with all this ?
Externally? Internally?
Do you have any self mechanisms?
How are you treating yourself ?
Are you allowing them to win because they are stronger than you ?

 

[All-Rounder]

They might also be victim narcissists, like take a victim position and complain about others constantly to paint themselves harmless and emotionally manipulate.

 

[elgat0verde]

So how do you cope with all this ?
Externally? Internally?
Do you have any self mechanisms?
How are you treating yourself ?
Are you allowing them to win because they are stronger than you ?

I cope with music, it has always been my safe space. Growing up, every time I'd get emotionally abused, I'd go to my room and put on my headphones and get lost in the melodies. Music saved my life, if it weren't for it, I would've done something very ugly to myself. I also am playing Elden Ring and focusing on building my character and that helps me calm down, plus, I found an old plush from when I was a toddler and when I feel upset I talk to it and hug it, I even sit it next to me while I'm playing video games and sit it on my side when I'm reading, and it gives me a lot of comfort.

I cope internally and talk to myself, I am my own therapist and let emotions be there when they show up and let them go when they are done. I used to cling to emotions and that caused me a lot of distress and made things way worse, I also tried denying my emotions and that made things even MORE horrible (tried to end it all 4 times). I also tell myself that things will get better, before starting my growth I was in a very dark and horrible depression, not knowing who I was and feeling very defeated and alone. I wasn't lonely at all, I just hated myself and couldn't stand my own company (I am building a beautiful relationship with myself), it wasn't until I had a very bad mental breakdown and realized that my parents are narcissists that things started getting better, and I started loving myself now.

Now, realizing that I have autism and cptsd, I know who I am because every little thing in my life that people saw as wrong and weird makes a lot of sense. I have finally found who I am, and I am working daily into getting that person back.

My mechanisms are music and video games, I also tell myself positive things in the mirror when I'm dressed and out of the shower.

I was treating myself poorly in the past, not eating, using marijuana to escape my ugly reality, not working out and just living in my room. Nowadays, I quit using drugs and alcohol, I show myself small acts of self-love which include eating 3 meals a day, working out (there's an elliptical machine here, and I hop on it for 30 minutes daily) and showering. Eating healthy-ish too.

I don't think they're stronger than me, they are reacting to their own trauma through me and that's what a coward does, I substained that abuse and manipulation for 37 years and am still alive, I've had mental breakdowns that would send other people spiraling into violence or worse, and I've survived them by myself and on my own. I am realizing how emotionally strong I really am.

I also write songs and poetry about how I feel and have posted a couple of them on the internet. Trying to make it as a musician, but I guess I am just dancing in front of the wrong people, like the little girl in the video for no rain

 

[elgat0verde]

They might also be victim narcissists, like take a victim position and complain about others constantly to paint themselves harmless and emotionally manipulate.

This is exactly what they are!

They always play the victim and have always blamed me for everything wrong, I could never go up to them and tell them my problems because everything would always be my fault.

When I divorced they even sided with my ex-wife against me, and when I'd talk to my adoptive mother about how abusive and manipulative my ex-wife is (she uses my children to cause me distress and pain), she would blame me for marrying her.

 

[trustinnerwisdom]

I cope with music, it has always been my safe space. Growing up, every time I'd get emotionally abused, I'd go to my room and put on my headphones and get lost in the melodies. Music saved my life, if it weren't for it, I would've done something very ugly to myself. I also am playing Elden Ring and focusing on building my character and that helps me calm down, plus, I found an old plush from when I was a toddler and when I feel upset I talk to it and hug it, I even sit it next to me while I'm playing video games and sit it on my side when I'm reading, and it gives me a lot of comfort.

I cope internally and talk to myself, I am my own therapist and let emotions be there when they show up and let them go when they are done. I used to cling to emotions and that caused me a lot of distress and made things way worse, I also tried denying my emotions and that made things even MORE horrible (tried to end it all 4 times). I also tell myself that things will get better, before starting my growth I was in a very dark and horrible depression, not knowing who I was and feeling very defeated and alone. I wasn't lonely at all, I just hated myself and couldn't stand my own company (I am building a beautiful relationship with myself), it wasn't until I had a very bad mental breakdown and realized that my parents are narcissists that things started getting better, and I started loving myself now.

Now, realizing that I have autism and cptsd, I know who I am because every little thing in my life that people saw as wrong and weird makes a lot of sense. I have finally found who I am, and I am working daily into getting that person back.

My mechanisms are music and video games, I also tell myself positive things in the mirror when I'm dressed and out of the shower.

I was treating myself poorly in the past, not eating, using marijuana to escape my ugly reality, not working out and just living in my room. Nowadays, I quit using drugs and alcohol, I show myself small acts of self-love which include eating 3 meals a day, working out (there's an elliptical machine here, and I hop on it for 30 minutes daily) and showering. Eating healthy-ish too.

I don't think they're stronger than me, they are reacting to their own trauma through me and that's what a coward does, I substained that abuse and manipulation for 37 years and am still alive, I've had mental breakdowns that would send other people spiraling into violence or worse, and I've survived them by myself and on my own. I am realizing how emotionally strong I really am.

I also write songs and poetry about how I feel and have posted a couple of them on the internet. Trying to make it as a musician, but I guess I am just dancing in front of the wrong people, like the little girl in the video for no rain

Sounds like music, video games, plush (does it has a name?), self talk, everything mostly in your own room have given you support, love, security/safety/courage and so on,, during your rough life. Have I understood you correctly ?
Are you also highly sensitive person ?
And do you have CPTSD emotional patterns?
Yes, you are emotional strong. Which other skills do you have? Education? Personality?

So do you have a channel or a song account somewhere ?

I learnt as long as we follow our deep own truth, we want to treat ourselves the best and that means that we eat better and better the diet which fits us.
So healthy-ish could be to eat a pizza, knowing that it will be grounding or giving that extra energy boost needed to handle a specific situation. And avoid to blame/shame when not eating so called unhealthy.
Instead make a decision what to eat and be proud over whatever choice taken.
The more in tune and balanced I am, the more so called healthy I naturally eat.

 

[elgat0verde]

Sounds like music, video games, plush (does it has a name?), self talk, everything mostly in your own room have given you support, love, security/safety/courage and so on,, during your rough life. Have I understood you correctly ?
Are you also highly sensitive person ?
And do you have CPTSD emotional patterns?
Yes, you are emotional strong. Which other skills do you have? Education? Personality?

So do you have a channel or a song account somewhere ?

I learnt as long as we follow our deep own truth, we want to treat ourselves the best and that means that we eat better and better the diet which fits us.
So healthy-ish could be to eat a pizza, knowing that it will be grounding or giving that extra energy boost needed to handle a specific situation. And avoid to blame/shame when not eating so called unhealthy.
Instead make a decision what to eat and be proud over whatever choice taken.
The more in tune and balanced I am, the more so called healthy I naturally eat.

I am very emotionally sensitive, sensitive to strong smells (I dislike the smell of cooking pinto beans), sensitive to light and strong noises (unless it's music) growing up I was terrified of fireworks because they were LOUD for me, sensitive to being touched when I don't want to be touched by others and sensitive to people's proximity (I don't like when people violate my personal space, it makes me very angry and uncomfortable). Ah, and I don't like people staring at me, that makes me very uncomfortable.

I have CPTSD that was confused with BPD due to the patterns. I have very strong emotional outbursts, I feel like I can't trust anyone because they'll end up hurting me somehow, I felt very damaged and still do at times and end up wallowing in that feeling for some days that gets me into very depressive bouts. I find it extremely impossible for me to make friends and all my relationships have failed because in the end I start believing that they will cheat on me or hurt me so I become very jealous and have them break up with me. I was plagued by suicidal toughts ever since I was 13 but that's getting better (I do think about it ocassionaly)

Skills? I don't know, I'm good at dark souls? I can sing, I am a very fast learner and can learn on my own (when I worked for smithfield foods I learned how to operate a train by myself, the forklift and skid-loader also, and I learned how machines worked by seeing others work on them)

I have a college degree that I got to please my parents, so they'd love me.

Personality? Introverted and quiet I guess, I like working alone and not have many interactions with people, phone calls make me very uncomfortable and anxious.

I just deleted my bandcamp page and my bandlab page as well. Don't know where else to post my music to get heard.

Yeah, I've done that too! I'd eat anything but in moderation and don't really feel guilty if I eat unhealthy food because I honestly love it! cheeseburgers are my favorite thing in the world

 

[trustinnerwisdom]

I am very emotionally sensitive, sensitive to strong smells (I dislike the smell of cooking pinto beans), sensitive to light and strong noises (unless it's music) growing up I was terrified of fireworks because they were LOUD for me, sensitive to being touched when I don't want to be touched by others and sensitive to people's proximity (I don't like when people violate my personal space, it makes me very angry and uncomfortable). Ah, and I don't like people staring at me, that makes me very uncomfortable.

I have CPTSD that was confused with BPD due to the patterns. I have very strong emotional outbursts, I feel like I can't trust anyone because they'll end up hurting me somehow, I felt very damaged and still do at times and end up wallowing in that feeling for some days that gets me into very depressive bouts. I find it extremely impossible for me to make friends and all my relationships have failed because in the end I start believing that they will cheat on me or hurt me so I become very jealous and have them break up with me. I was plagued by suicidal toughts ever since I was 13 but that's getting better (I do think about it ocassionaly)

Skills? I don't know, I'm good at dark souls? I can sing, I am a very fast learner and can learn on my own (when I worked for smithfield foods I learned how to operate a train by myself, the forklift and skid-loader also, and I learned how machines worked by seeing others work on them)

I have a college degree that I got to please my parents, so they'd love me.

Personality? Introverted and quiet I guess, I like working alone and not have many interactions with people, phone calls make me very uncomfortable and anxious.

I just deleted my bandcamp page and my bandlab page as well. Don't know where else to post my music to get heard.

Yeah, I've done that too! I'd eat anything but in moderation and don't really feel guilty if I eat unhealthy food because I honestly love it! cheeseburgers are my favorite thing in the world

So do you have the diagnose highly sensitive person ?
I was a lot more sensitive than I am now. Touch is mostly just confusing for me, because I have triggers in that, so I need to have plenty of time to understand that the touch is not going to severely hurt me.
Personal space - I get frustrated when something has changed in my personal space. Even if a person just moved one thing one centimetre it may feel annoying, specially when I can’t figure what has changed.

Cheeseburger is the epic wheat flour, fat and sugar combination which is also something to hold and bite. A perfect meal to stress down.
I am more into salad, vegetarian stews and smoothies. I just programmed myself that way, after I realised that no food is good, everything is a programmed in one way or another.

 

[elgat0verde]

So do you have the diagnose highly sensitive person ?
I was a lot more sensitive than I am now. Touch is mostly just confusing for me, because I have triggers in that, so I need to have plenty of time to understand that the touch is not going to severely hurt me.
Personal space - I get frustrated when something has changed in my personal space. Even if a person just moved one thing one centimetre it may feel annoying, specially when I can’t figure what has changed.

Cheeseburger is the epic wheat flour, fat and sugar combination which is also something to hold and bite. A perfect meal to stress down.
I am more into salad, vegetarian stews and smoothies. I just programmed myself that way, after I realised that no food is good, everything is a programmed in one way or another.

I haven't been diagnosed with that, I haven't seen a therapist for a while because I can't find one that I enjoy working with.

My last therapist just asked me some questions from a book and told me "Yep, it's BPD" without asking anything about my past.

I enjoy salads too! I like how fresh veggies feel when I eat them and I love salad dressings (the tangier the better) also really like bleu cheese and recently have started becoming obsessed over ranch dressing.

I am the same way with personal space and my belongings, I don't like it when people touch orove things.

My plush name is Solaire by the way.

What is your favorite salad dressing?

 

[All-Rounder]

<<People in my country are very violent and live by "toxic masculinity" and I don't feel like getting into a fist fight because that scares me.>> - Toxic masculinity is definitely very different from positive masculinity

 

[All-Rounder]

"Although I hadn’t shared many of those thoughts with my father, he had come to echo the hunger many men feel in the modern world. He shared a yearning for mentorship, brotherhood, and growth into a mature, developed sense of manhood. It is a yearning that, for many of us, goes unfulfilled.

Without much-needed mentorship into the world of men, we are left to find our own way toward a mature, holistic model of masculinity that will meet our deeply felt internal needs while also honoring the sovereignty and dignity of those around us. Thankfully, there is a growing movement among men to establish a new definition of healthy, positive masculinity.

In this vein, a group of researchers recently created a framework for teaching a model of positive masculinity to school-age boys. Their goal was to build a foundation of mentorship for boys that would take them from boyhood into the broader world. Using several theoretical foundations rooted in our understanding of social and psychological development, these researchers suggested the following three attributes that contribute to the formation of a positive masculine identity:

Being connected. To the self and others, forming interpersonal relationships based on respect, open communication, and non-violence.

Being motivated. Intrinsic motivation to engage with and contribute effectively to society beyond social pressures.

Being authentic. Comfort in enacting commitment to one’s values. Capacity to adopt flexibility around the emotional restriction and stoicism in help-seeking. Although this was designed for work with boys in school, these principles give men a framework that moves us toward a greater sense of our positive masculinity and is useful at any age."

More in depth description here:

Developing Positive Masculinity

 

[trustinnerwisdom]

I haven't been diagnosed with that, I haven't seen a therapist for a while because I can't find one that I enjoy working with.

My last therapist just asked me some questions from a book and told me "Yep, it's BPD" without asking anything about my past.

I enjoy salads too! I like how fresh veggies feel when I eat them and I love salad dressings (the tangier the better) also really like bleu cheese and recently have started becoming obsessed over ranch dressing.

I am the same way with personal space and my belongings, I don't like it when people touch orove things.

My plush name is Solaire by the way.

What is your favorite salad dressing?

Excuse me , that I haven’t answered, but today I felt it was time for me to answer you.
I have found my trauma therapist, she is a Buddhist. Great conversation, where I am allow to grow and not get judged/questioned and so on.

I understand you w/o maybe understand you Because I know that it is truly amazing when the right therapist is found. But the road to find that therapist can be very bumpy.
So I wish you find someone resonating and supports your life journey forward!(IF that what you wish too).
I have met many people who has trust issues or similar, who can’t find a therapist. Mostly because everything they say has some value of diagnosis. And it often end with a client not feeling heard, understood and seen.
And in the long run, many get symptoms similar avoidant personality disorder. And then end up with psychosis, which are intricate to cure(it is easy to attack the therapist, who is often trying to find out who the client is behind the walls and so on it has build). And the client loves the walls, because they have become a part of the client!
As a CPTSD can evolve around whatever symptoms, for almost whatever reason. It is like meeting a whirlwind without beginning and it. The client has so many defences, mechanisms, attributes, masks and so on, that it is hard to know where the true person is in all that.
Which means that the client often always believes in the version of themselves they witnessing. And the therapist believes in the version they witnessing.
And when a person is so lost, it is a nightmare to try to support, because it can backfire/backstab so easily, IF everything the client has built of defences or whatever begin to scatter, because the client feels safe/heard for the maybe first time in life. Issue is also that many clients have to change therapist and the treatment takes years!


Ranch dressing is really good. Reminds me about the Swedish ginger bread cookies with blue cheese. I have never like blue cheese.
But I love many different kind of dressing. Often it is way easier to eat up my food if I have some dressing on it.

But why don’t you like people touching your things ?
I presume for me it is a control/safety issue, and that I can intuitively feel when a thing has moved, but no one admits it. Or when I found a glass scattered on the floor and the person I had invited said it must have happened before him, it created an unrealistic feeling. Because I am very much cleaning that space behind a table with a cloth normally, so a scattered glass should have hurt my hand .He also dropped such glass from a top bunk bed w/o it went broken and scattered. Despite that I told him to use a water bottle!

Great to meet Solaire! Thank you! Solaire seems to be a trustworthy therapist for you?

 

[trustinnerwisdom]

"Although I hadn’t shared many of those thoughts with my father, he had come to echo the hunger many men feel in the modern world. He shared a yearning for mentorship, brotherhood, and growth into a mature, developed sense of manhood. It is a yearning that, for many of us, goes unfulfilled.

Without much-needed mentorship into the world of men, we are left to find our own way toward a mature, holistic model of masculinity that will meet our deeply felt internal needs while also honoring the sovereignty and dignity of those around us. Thankfully, there is a growing movement among men to establish a new definition of healthy, positive masculinity.

In this vein, a group of researchers recently created a framework for teaching a model of positive masculinity to school-age boys. Their goal was to build a foundation of mentorship for boys that would take them from boyhood into the broader world. Using several theoretical foundations rooted in our understanding of social and psychological development, these researchers suggested the following three attributes that contribute to the formation of a positive masculine identity:

Being connected. To the self and others, forming interpersonal relationships based on respect, open communication, and non-violence.

Being motivated. Intrinsic motivation to engage with and contribute effectively to society beyond social pressures.

Being authentic. Comfort in enacting commitment to one’s values. Capacity to adopt flexibility around the emotional restriction and stoicism in help-seeking. Although this was designed for work with boys in school, these principles give men a framework that moves us toward a greater sense of our positive masculinity and is useful at any age."

More in depth description here:

Developing Positive Masculinity

https://www.essentiallymen.net/Or angsbacka.se
Are courses I know men is allowed to be men, whatever it means for them.
But also HAI, tantra or other similar are embracing a more diverse masculinity.
At Angsbacka a male participant confirmed that it was as a release to just stand several men together, share deeply, dance, embrace and cry together. He said after that now he felt more whole as identify as a man.

 

[elgat0verde]

Excuse me , that I haven’t answered, but today I felt it was time for me to answer you.
I have found my trauma therapist, she is a Buddhist. Great conversation, where I am allow to grow and not get judged/questioned and so on.

I understand you w/o maybe understand you Because I know that it is truly amazing when the right therapist is found. But the road to find that therapist can be very bumpy.
So I wish you find someone resonating and supports your life journey forward!(IF that what you wish too).
I have met many people who has trust issues or similar, who can’t find a therapist. Mostly because everything they say has some value of diagnosis. And it often end with a client not feeling heard, understood and seen.
And in the long run, many get symptoms similar avoidant personality disorder. And then end up with psychosis, which are intricate to cure(it is easy to attack the therapist, who is often trying to find out who the client is behind the walls and so on it has build). And the client loves the walls, because they have become a part of the client!
As a CPTSD can evolve around whatever symptoms, for almost whatever reason. It is like meeting a whirlwind without beginning and it. The client has so many defences, mechanisms, attributes, masks and so on, that it is hard to know where the true person is in all that.
Which means that the client often always believes in the version of themselves they witnessing. And the therapist believes in the version they witnessing.
And when a person is so lost, it is a nightmare to try to support, because it can backfire/backstab so easily, IF everything the client has built of defences or whatever begin to scatter, because the client feels safe/heard for the maybe first time in life. Issue is also that many clients have to change therapist and the treatment takes years!


Ranch dressing is really good. Reminds me about the Swedish ginger bread cookies with blue cheese. I have never like blue cheese.
But I love many different kind of dressing. Often it is way easier to eat up my food if I have some dressing on it.

But why don’t you like people touching your things ?
I presume for me it is a control/safety issue, and that I can intuitively feel when a thing has moved, but no one admits it. Or when I found a glass scattered on the floor and the person I had invited said it must have happened before him, it created an unrealistic feeling. Because I am very much cleaning that space behind a table with a cloth normally, so a scattered glass should have hurt my hand .He also dropped such glass from a top bunk bed w/o it went broken and scattered. Despite that I told him to use a water bottle!

Great to meet Solaire! Thank you! Solaire seems to be a trustworthy therapist for you?

That does make a lot of sense and explains why I haven't found the correct therapist, it's that I have worn masks all my life, oh, don't worry about not answering. I understand life can be complicated for people.

Everything just hits the nail on the head, everything! I just want a therapist that listens and doesn't put me in a mold to work with me, as a matter of fact.

I don't like it when people touch my things, I don't know why, but I just don't like it, it makes me angry, more so when they touch them with their filthy little hands (only exception is my kids, I don't mind them touching my stuff even with icky fingers)

Solaire is just there to bring me comfort basically, I've talked to him about my feelings of loneliness and all the ugly things that are showing up as of late, all the ways things have been happening in my life. I think i am truly awakening to the reality of my life and realizing just how horrible people in my family and in my town are. It's ugly and it has me depressed and confused and just angry.

 

[trustinnerwisdom]

That does make a lot of sense and explains why I haven't found the correct therapist, it's that I have worn masks all my life, oh, don't worry about not answering. I understand life can be complicated for people.

Everything just hits the nail on the head, everything! I just want a therapist that listens and doesn't put me in a mold to work with me, as a matter of fact.

I don't like it when people touch my things, I don't know why, but I just don't like it, it makes me angry, more so when they touch them with their filthy little hands (only exception is my kids, I don't mind them touching my stuff even with icky fingers)

Solaire is just there to bring me comfort basically, I've talked to him about my feelings of loneliness and all the ugly things that are showing up as of late, all the ways things have been happening in my life. I think i am truly awakening to the reality of my life and realizing just how horrible people in my family and in my town are. It's ugly and it has me depressed and confused and just angry.

You want to find a correct therapist, who doesn’t put you in a mold to work with you.
You want them to just listen, confirm you and allow you to sort out your own issues.
Because you have taken yourself in your hand and walked yourself home so many times before that you know how that is done in the correct way.

So in which way does the anger serves you ?
So you trust your kids and know that they will treat your things with respect ?

Horrible family and town, sounds like you haven’t been comforted in the way you deserved ? That they cannot witness you as you truly are behind the masks ?
And that they have learnt how to wear masks too?
Solaire seems to be the correct therapist then?

 

[elgat0verde]

You want to find a correct therapist, who doesn’t put you in a mold to work with you.
You want them to just listen, confirm you and allow you to sort out your own issues.
Because you have taken yourself in your hand and walked yourself home so many times before that you know how that is done in the correct way.

So in which way does the anger serves you ?
So you trust your kids and know that they will treat your things with respect ?

Horrible family and town, sounds like you haven’t been comforted in the way you deserved ? That they cannot witness you as you truly are behind the masks ?
And that they have learnt how to wear masks too?
Solaire seems to be the correct therapist then?

I listened to a book called "no bad parts" by Richard C Schwartz (may have gotten the name wrong) and I've learned to talk to my feelings

My anger tells me about thr I just situations I'm out through that I can't fight (I hate conflict)

I do trust them, I mean, they're my kids and if they break something it's cause they're young and clumsy (I do tell them that if they break a toy I won't buy them another one at all)

I have never been comforted in any way and they can't witness me for who I am (they worked hard all my life to turn me into what they wanted me to be through abuse and throw everything I am and they don't like out the window)

Solaire is just comfortable company I guess, not therapy

And yeah, all my life I've dealt with my emotions, depression, loneliness, abuse, trauma on my own

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

I read your stuff not the rest of the thread, noticed your interest in music curious. Sounds like you like bass.my son is into playing bass always has played bass trombone in school and the bass guitar which he taught himself without me even being aware.

 

[elgat0verde]

I read your stuff not the rest of the thread, noticed your interest in music curious. Sounds like you like bass.my son is into playing bass always has played bass trombone in school and the bass guitar which he taught himself without me even being aware.

I also am a self taught musician!

I do absolutely love music, it has saved my life countless times and is the reason I'm still milling about.

It's cool that your son is talented!

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

Music runs in my family as I have stated before my cousin was a professional musician. now he retrained as a hairdresser. If you want, he has a number of u-tube videos. Check out Eddie Zeeman. I'm even in one of the videos at least the back of my head. he is also self-taught incredible drummer.

 

[elgat0verde]

Music runs in my family as I have stated before my cousin was a professional musician. now he retrained as a hairdresser. If you want, he has a number of u-tube videos. Check out Eddie Zeeman. I'm even in one of the videos at least the back of my head. he is also self-taught incredible drummer.

I'll definitely check him out!