Sexist terms

[KOZMOZIS @realchrisharold]

A physical condition some are born with might constitute a third. Anatomically.
hermaphroditism, the condition of having both male and female reproductive organs. ... Affected individuals have sex chromosomes showing male-female mosaicism (where one individual possesses both the male XY and female XX chromosome pairs).

I agree. And they’re more likely to experience the force rather than anybody else. So: there are three genders; the third - being bisexual or transgender. So Tman or Twoman. But: some Transgender Males (a woman in a man’s body); albeit I am technically a CIS male or at least considered that by the omnipresent and opaque LGBTQ group. I say that because of some of my negative experiences - very negative - and irrational responses from some of the members of said community which I sometimes question my admiration for.

 

[KOZMOZIS @realchrisharold]

Are you speaking out of religious ignorance, political fear, or simple stupidity?

• God and the Holy spirit are made in the image of male & female (Genesis). Referring to God as "he" is an error of the patriarchy that Jesus corrected
• Politics reflect just plain stubborn ignorance and is hate filled
• Biology recognizes many variations, the five most common are are Turner syndrome (XO), Klinefelter syndrome (XXY), trisomy X (XXX), XYY, and XXYY

Regardless of your off topic nonsense, sexist terms represent systemic misogyny and is a tool of oppression. And it makes you look stupid.



The world has always been a harsh place for those who do not conform to the 68.2%. That this is an autism site, makes us all misfits regardless of our sexual orientation.

It does make me laugh when someone who is already an anomaly makes 'issues' out of other anomalies - the pot calling the kettle black. It is just someone reaching out of the barnyard muck to jerk the rest of us around.

If this scares you off, I do not know where you can hide.

you know what makes someone look really really stupid? Insulting someone by calling them stupid.

 

[KOZMOZIS @realchrisharold]

Five Genders:

Male
Female
Trans male
Trans female
Hermaphrodite

 

[Varzar]

The attempt is being made to separate gender from biology. It is an uphill slog to force a redefinition of a word that is so fundamental to day-to-day life.

The idea is someone's identity, the way they see themselves in their mind's eye, may not match the biology.
So the language is trying to adapt to this notion, by using the term gender, or gender identity to refer to that mind's eye viewpoint of oneself. And the world is slowly coming to acknowledge that the gender one sees themself as is more important than the biological gender they happen to have been born with (as the two may not match).

So I'd kind of argue we're not trying to separate gender from biology, but more redefine gender as being how someone identifies themselves instead of how they were born.

 

[Varzar]

Five Genders:

Male
Female
Trans male
Trans female
Hermaphrodite

I would have thought people that exist on a spectrum of autism would have an easier time with the notion that gender identity could also be a spectrum, not just a few black and white states.
The point of gender identity is not what someone's got in their pants, it's how they see themselves, how they identify themselves.

 

[Tom]

What about sexist cave paintings? That has to stop right now!

 

[KOZMOZIS @realchrisharold]

I would have thought people that exist on a spectrum of autism would have an easier time with the notion that gender identity could also be a spectrum, not just a few black and white states.
The point of gender identity is not what someone's got in their pants, it's how they see themselves, how they identify themselves.

the thing about the PH scale is that it has a defined amount of colours

 

[Varzar]

the thing about the PH scale is that it has a defined amount of colours

The pH scale is numeric.
We use various chemicals to test pH of various substances, and those various chemicals all turn a different range of colours in response to the level of acidity/alkalinity.
The colour gradations on such pH tests are just estimates of the numerical scale that is pH.
There are an infinite number of real numbers in between 0 and 14 on the pH scale.
So, no, that analogy does not support your case that gender identity can be neatly summed up in 2 or 5 discrete states.

 

[KOZMOZIS @realchrisharold]

The pH scale is numeric.
We use various chemicals to test pH of various substances, and those various chemicals all turn a different range of colours in response to the level of acidity/alkalinity.
The colour gradations on such pH tests are just estimates of the numerical scale that is pH.
There are an infinite number of real numbers in between 0 and 14 on the pH scale.
So, no, that analogy does not support your case that gender identity can be neatly summed up in 2 or 5 discrete states.

You’re acting incorrigible. I can’t go to war with you.

 

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[KOZMOZIS @realchrisharold]

I’ll come back in with this:

Litmus paper comes in two colors. Red litmus paper turns blue when exposed to a base. Blue litmus paper turns red in the presence of an acid.

ROYGB
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But: we can agree to disagree

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

Five Genders:

Male
Female
Trans male
Trans female
Hermaphrodite

I Had a good chat with my trans gender relative, they pointed out to me, she was born without an adams apple. sounds like biology.

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

The pH scale is numeric.
We use various chemicals to test pH of various substances, and those various chemicals all turn a different range of colours in response to the level of acidity/alkalinity.
The colour gradations on such pH tests are just estimates of the numerical scale that is pH.
There are an infinite number of real numbers in between 0 and 14 on the pH scale.
So, no, that analogy does not support your case that gender identity can be neatly summed up in 2 or 5 discrete states.

PH is chemistry, a measure of how water dissociates into ions.

 

[KOZMOZIS @realchrisharold]

PH is chemistry, a measure of how water dissociates into ions.

I don’t have the time to explain the word properties to you. Good day.

 

[Streetwise]

Five Genders:

Male
Female
Trans male
Trans female
Hermaphrodite

And it's also what you believe gender to be I believe it's male, female,hermaphrodites might choose male or female

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

And it's also what you believe gender to be I believe it's male, female, hermaphrodites might choose male or female

Nature defaults to female, the original template. After that it becomes personal choice.

 

[Varzar]

Not saying gender can't be a spectrum but they are always some combination of male and female. We never define a type of gender in terms other than male and female. If all those other genders would be their own separate entities they would be described in their own characteristics. Each neurodiversity Is described in terms of it's characteristics and not terms of other neurodiversities. Autism isn't a constructed from other a mental disorders, it has a list of its own traits, just like adhd has a list of its own traits, i don't this in any of the definitions of all the supposed genders. It's not comparable. Also autism as a spectrum was introduced to STOP the pointless subtyping into different diagnoses, so why would we consider gender a spectrum but still feel a need to endlessly divide it with different labels.

I agree autism isn't constructed from other mental disorders and is defined on its own characteristics, but there are distinct labels within that autism spectrum. Namely, ASD-1, ASD-2, and ASD-3. But we still refer to it as a spectrum because some people may fall in between those labels, not exactly ASD-1 or ASD-2, but somewhere in the middle of the two. Or maybe in somewhere between NT and ASD-1 even.
The same can be said for gender, where a person may fall in between male and female.

As for why people feel the need to endlessly divide gender into different labels. Well, that's just gender identity going through the same process that neurodivergences did before it became accepted that these things could be viewed as a spectrum and not every subtype (e.g. Aspergers, or PDD-NOS) needs its own label.

More than likely, as it becomes more accepted by the population at large that gender is also a spectrum, a number of these labels will probably become less important as well. With gender identity though, I would say we are still in an exploration/discovery phase, and complete acceptance is still relatively low, so labelling will continue for a bit.
Just imagine the process of organizing anything where you're not sure what all the things really are. First, you would go through the things, identify them all (give them labels), and then once you know all of what you've got, you can decide on ways that makes the most sense to organize them into meaningful categories.
It's the same process that went on with work on neurodivergences eventually getting put together into spectrums, and it will likely happen the same way with gender identity as more people gain better understanding of what all is being organized into that spectrum.

Hope that makes sense...

 

[SDRSpark]

Most women I know, myself included, are only offended that there are seperate words for men and women doing the same job. We don't care if the feminine version is dropped in favor of the "masculine" version. Just quit singling out gender. Gender makes no difference.

I agree.

As a nonbinary person, I tend to prefer the masculine term though. I used to serve as Chairman of a committee at my workplace...I referred to myself as Chairman of the committee only to have people correct me "it's ChairPERSON" and that always annoyed me (I'm female bodied, by the way). Like, if I'm using the term Chairman, don't correct me as a way of sticking up for me. Leave it alone.

 

[Suzette]

I agree.

As a nonbinary person, I tend to prefer the masculine term though. I used to serve as Chairman of a committee at my workplace...I referred to myself as Chairman of the committee only to have people correct me "it's ChairPERSON" and that always annoyed me (I'm female bodied, by the way). Like, if I'm using the term Chairman, don't correct me as a way of sticking up for me. Leave it alone.

"Chairperson Mao" doesn't have the right ring to it!

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

lots of things are contiuums, we humans like to label things after all where does orange begin and red start this drove me nuts working with colour my whole career, I avoided names for the various nuances.