Krazie243
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142857: Ok, lol. So I guess you like being replied to as a number?
As per your 'how to' approach to apologies:
I tend to agree, but I actually have a formulated idea in regards to apologies from a 'sin' perspective.
You see, most people think they are good people. As a result, EVERY action they do was intended to be good (and occasionally they screw up). This is most commonly believed by non-religious people but has been observed by north america as a whole regardless of religious belief. It is basically the opposite of true religious belief that mankind is actually bad and in need of being saved by a deity.
It would seem that people in general like to think that there is no evil inside them. Anything that goes wrong is a product of circumstances. To paraphrase/quote someone smart: "When something goes right, it was skill - when something goes wrong, it was circumstances". We as a people like to think that we are good or perfect and that we would not willingly do something we consider evil. And then at the same time we point fingers at others in shock and wonder how they could have possibly committed such an evil. 'What circumstances made you think of doing that?'
Ultimately I think that before people even LEARN to apologize, they need to learn to do something evil on purpose or at least understand that every evil they do is intentional. I have learned to do good things and do bad things. I do all that I do on purpose. Sometimes I will do something good and something bad will happen. Sometimes I will do something bad and something good will happen. So the outside perspective of it all can be tricky. But ultimately I KNOW when I've done something bad and when I've done something right. I think that intentional evil is an effective tool. It allows you to embrace your dark side with control rather than the out-of-control nature of most humans. By controlling my evil by effectively choosing which evils I engage in I can have one of the most developed senses of self-control I've ever seen. Plus this helps me with apologies. I know when I am wrong (with exception of some unsolved debates) so I am effectively able to admit defeat. When I am wrong I can tell a person I screwed up. And the best part of it is that I feel good admitting wrong because I see that as a valuable character trait. So while I feel shame of being proven wrong, I feel happy about having found what was right, and I feel proud of being an honorable person.
As per your 'how to' approach to apologies:
I tend to agree, but I actually have a formulated idea in regards to apologies from a 'sin' perspective.
You see, most people think they are good people. As a result, EVERY action they do was intended to be good (and occasionally they screw up). This is most commonly believed by non-religious people but has been observed by north america as a whole regardless of religious belief. It is basically the opposite of true religious belief that mankind is actually bad and in need of being saved by a deity.
It would seem that people in general like to think that there is no evil inside them. Anything that goes wrong is a product of circumstances. To paraphrase/quote someone smart: "When something goes right, it was skill - when something goes wrong, it was circumstances". We as a people like to think that we are good or perfect and that we would not willingly do something we consider evil. And then at the same time we point fingers at others in shock and wonder how they could have possibly committed such an evil. 'What circumstances made you think of doing that?'
Ultimately I think that before people even LEARN to apologize, they need to learn to do something evil on purpose or at least understand that every evil they do is intentional. I have learned to do good things and do bad things. I do all that I do on purpose. Sometimes I will do something good and something bad will happen. Sometimes I will do something bad and something good will happen. So the outside perspective of it all can be tricky. But ultimately I KNOW when I've done something bad and when I've done something right. I think that intentional evil is an effective tool. It allows you to embrace your dark side with control rather than the out-of-control nature of most humans. By controlling my evil by effectively choosing which evils I engage in I can have one of the most developed senses of self-control I've ever seen. Plus this helps me with apologies. I know when I am wrong (with exception of some unsolved debates) so I am effectively able to admit defeat. When I am wrong I can tell a person I screwed up. And the best part of it is that I feel good admitting wrong because I see that as a valuable character trait. So while I feel shame of being proven wrong, I feel happy about having found what was right, and I feel proud of being an honorable person.
