Whitewater Woman's Equipment Maintenance and Repair

[Outdated]

That's interesting and a little confusing. I'll just call it brekkjern, that's what it's called here.

Most people will call any of those types of tools a crow bar, but when you work in factories or on building sites you have to learn the specific names so that you can ask for the specific tool you're looking for.

The Crow Bar is very specific and is named differently to all the others. It comes from ancient roman times, a device they invented for boarding other ships that they called a Corvus. (crow) It was a heavy boarding plank with a large metal spike in the end that they'd drop onto another ship when they were close enough. The metal spike would stab in to the other ship's deck preventing them from separating. The common people found that these metal spikes were great for digging with.

Corvus (boarding device) - Wikipedia

 

[Forest Cat]

Most people will call any of those types of tools a crow bar, but when you work in factories or on building sites you have to learn the specific names so that you can ask for the specific tool you're looking for.

We just have two here, small crowbars and big crowbars.

I realized now that we are in WhitewaterWoman's equipment maintenance and repair thread, so it's a little off-topic. Sorry about that Whitewaterwoman.

​

 

[Hypnalis]

If the old bit has also chewed out the heads of the screws no bit will be able to turn them. An old back yard butcher's trick is to use an angle grinder with a microblade disk to cut a straight slot in the head of each screw and then try a flat bladed screwdriver to try and undo them.

This will dramatically weaken the screw heads, especially if you cut too deep, and the screw heads will snap off if you're not careful. Screw heads snapping off is the next step anyway if you can't undo them. With the screw heads snapped off you should be able to use a jimmy bar to prise the boards off of the screw shafts.

Once the boards are removed there should be enough of the screw shaft left protruding that you can lock vice grips on to them and undo them that way.

The are tools that work in screws and bolts with stripped heads that would work for this. Like a big, very coarse screw with a reversed (LH) thread, a cutting edge on the threads so it grips, and a way to apply some torque.

They'd work well in Torx heads. I have a vague memory of partially drilling out bolts (on motorcycles) and using them together with a manual "left-handed" impact driver but it was a long time ago. These days most of that gear comes with an electric motor

They wouldn't work well if the threads on the screws you're trying to remove don't have anything to push against of course, but if you can get them to engage you can pull things back with them.

PS: "Jemmy", not Jimmy /lol.

 

[Outdated]

The are tools that work in screws and bolts with stripped heads that would work for this.

Easy-outs. I had to use them often enough on print presses, but I was trying to suggest tools she's more likely got close to hand.

If you do buy an easy-out whatever you do don't by a cheap one. You only ever get what you pay for.

PS: "Jemmy", not Jimmy /lol.

I know, I've been told all my life but "jimmy" stuck with me since I was 16 because it made sense to me alongside tommy.

 

[Hypnalis]

Yes - easy-outs. Forgettable name, but very handy. I remember them being cheap for the time they saved.

And I guess you're off the hook for "Jimmy". Everyone has the right to retain a few foibles from their younger days

 

[WhitewaterWoman]

Torx drivers have a numbering system

View attachment 137156
It is imperative that you choose the correct size driver for the fastener.

Thank you, Nitro. A picture is perfect. Now I know what I am looking for when I go to Home Depot tomorrow. There’s one just a few blocks over from my destination. (I had two of my banjos tuned up.)

I will bring this picture, a screw, and the driver to Home Depot.

 

[WhitewaterWoman]

We just have two here, small crowbars and big crowbars.

I realized now that we are in WhitewaterWoman's equipment maintenance and repair thread, so it's a little off-topic. Sorry about that Whitewaterwoman.

​

Rest assured Forest Cat. I like these expanded exchanges because I learn from them. I never knew there were different sizes of crow bars, for example.

And you never know when I might be in Norway and needing a brekkjern.

 

[WhitewaterWoman]

Thank you also to everyone who has contributed and not yet mentioned, Outdated, Hypnalis, Shevek, Ronald Z, Mary Terry.

 

[Nitro]

Here in the States, if you go into a homeowners store and ask for a crowbar you will get one of these:
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Bon-Tool-48-in-Crow-Bar-with-Claw-and-Chisel-Ends/5000763475

From what I understand, they were called crowbars because of the hooked end of them.

Crowbar - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In my world, we simply call it a wrecking bar and leave it at that.

 

[Nitro]

We call this specific style of a prybar a wonderbar

 

[Aspychata]

I really like that type of bar, l lost mine in a move, they seem like the most perfect tool for getting stubborn nails out. l like this thread, it reminds me of Tool Tme show on TV. l wish Nitro had his own thread that he took questions, there is some serious talent there. When l go to Home Depot, the customer service people sprint out of sight. My questions always start out, can you help, you know the dillybobber on the waterheater or is that the AC unit?

 

[Aspychata]

I really like that type of bar, l lost mine in a move, they seem like the most perfect tool for getting stubborn nails out. l like this thread, it reminds me of Tool Tme show on TV. l wish Nitro had his own thread that he took questions, there is some serious talent there. When l go to Home Depot, the customer service people sprint out of sight. Can you help me, you know the dillybobber thing on the warerheater or is that the AC unit, can you get it for me? Why are you rolling your eyes at me....



,

 

[Mary Terry]

Torx drivers have a numbering system

View attachment 137156
It is imperative that you choose the correct size driver for the fastener.

Should @WhitewaterWoman take one of the actual screws she is trying to remove, with her to the store to make sure she gets the proper tool?

 

[Mary Terry]

I really like that type of bar, l lost mine in a move, they seem like the most perfect tool for getting stubborn nails out. l like this thread, it reminds me of Tool Tme show on TV. l wish Nitro had his own thread that he took questions, there is some serious talent there. When l go to Home Depot, the customer service people sprint out of sight. My questions always start out, can you help, you know the dillybobber on the waterheater or is that the AC unit?

Everything is pretty much a "tool-thingy" or "thingamajig" to me!

 

[Nitro]

Should @WhitewaterWoman take one of the actual screws she is trying to remove, with her to the store to make sure she gets the proper tool?

Yes

 

[Mary Terry]

I really like that type of bar, l lost mine in a move, they seem like the most perfect tool for getting stubborn nails out. l like this thread, it reminds me of Tool Tme show on TV. l wish Nitro had his own thread that he took questions, there is some serious talent there. When l go to Home Depot, the customer service people sprint out of sight. Can you help me, you know the dillybobber thing on the warerheater or is that the AC unit, can you get it for me? Why are you rolling your eyes at me....



,

Home Depot has customer service people?!

 

[WhitewaterWoman]

Should @WhitewaterWoman take one of the actual screws she is trying to remove, with her to the store to make sure she gets the proper tool?

Yes. I am bringing a screw. Already in the car. Thanks!

 

[WhitewaterWoman]

I really like that type of bar, l lost mine in a move, they seem like the most perfect tool for getting stubborn nails out.

Whatever happened to using the back end of the hammer to pull out nails? If the nail was stubbon, put a piece of wood in between the base and the hammer.

A long time ago, I did more of this stuff and was proud that I knew what at Allen head screwdriver was. And now they have these star shaped things. And everyone is using screws now instead of nails. Nails are so simple. All you need is a hammer.

 

[Mary Terry]

Whatever happened to using the back end of the hammer to pull out nails? If the nail was stubbon, put a piece of wood in between the base and the hammer.

A long time ago, I did more of this stuff and was proud that I knew what at Allen head screwdriver was. And now they have these star shaped things. And everyone is using screws now instead of nails. Nails are so simple. All you need is a hammer.

Yeah, a claw hammer. That's what I'm familiar with to pull out nails.

 

[Nitro]

Having spent a greater portion of my career in manufacturing taught me that any tool that makes a job easier is worth owning.

Work smarter, not harder

Demolition/construction tool:

It can pull nails, twist studs into alignment, serve as a hammer and do prybar work
--------------------------------------
Demolition/construction tool:

Fairly universal piece of equipment that can serve in many capacities beyond a common prybar

Red, adjustment slots
Yellow, wrench/stud twister
Blue,nail puller

The curved shoe on the bottom assists in nail pulling
The claw is adjustable so there is no need for a block of wood which is hardly ever the right size when you need it.
It can be used as a wrench in 1/2 inch increments up to six inches if needed.

It's not hoarding if it is tools