Why is it ok for people to mock and undermine others who have cancer? (not autistic related)

[tazz]

none of the internet insult fools would do it for real in public because they'd likely get knocked out.

And the real-life insult fools work on the same principle... they don't think they're gonna get knocked out because they're big and strong. Or they're with 14 friends and there's safety in numbers. So they assume no-one's gonna take them on. At least in real life, occasionally one of these idiots is gonna come up against someone crazy enough to take them on The internet insult fools don't even have that concern. I wonder if the only recourse is for all the non-idiots to simply abandon social media. Then the insult fools would have nothing to insult. And as a bonus, the owners of the social media companies would be unable to make a buck by exploiting this dynamic.

 

[Rodafina]

And the real-life insult fools work on the same principle... they don't think they're gonna get knocked out because they're big and strong. Or they're with 14 friends and there's safety in numbers. So they assume no-one's gonna take them on. At least in real life, occasionally one of these idiots is gonna come up against someone crazy enough to take them on The internet insult fools don't even have that concern. I wonder if the only recourse is for all the non-idiots to simply abandon social media. Then the insult fools would have nothing to insult. And as a bonus, the owners of the social media companies would be unable to make a buck by exploiting this dynamic.

Another idea, although sadly I think it only works in theory…

So much of what is being discussed in this thread is intended for some sort of attention and reaction. What if we could all collectively truly just ignore the trolling am the baiting and the ludicrous comments. Why do we give extra airtime to people who are doing things to simply provoke a reaction? I think being ignored is the worst punishment to this sort of person.

I appreciate the “ignore” function, even though I don’t use it – my inner ignore function is a more important thing to foster.

 

[Misty Avich]

I wonder if holding too strongly to our stances and convictions is one thing that contributes to people fighting so much, especially over the internet. I wonder if sometimes we should all do more listening.

Maybe listening is more powerful than talking.

I think maybe there is something unnatural, or at least very new for humans to be able to communicate on a mass scale with people via the Internet. Socializing and interacting beyond small family and community groups is a relatively new innovation.

Edit: @Misty Avich, I used the word you used, “stance,” but I did not mean for my comment to be directed at you.

It's a new word I've learnt lol. My vocabulary isn't very big so when I find a new word I don't use in everyday interaction I find it illustrates my point better online, to let everyone know I'm not a bad person, I'm just human like everyone else. (Not aimed at you lol, just saying).

 

[2Fragile2TakeCriticism]

Another idea, although sadly I think it only works in theory…

So much of what is being discussed in this thread is intended for some sort of attention and reaction. What if we could all collectively truly just ignore the trolling am the baiting and the ludicrous comments. Why do we give extra airtime to people who are doing things to simply provoke a reaction? I think being ignored is the worst punishment to this sort of person.

I appreciate the “ignore” function, even though I don’t use it – my inner ignore function is a more important thing to foster.

Yeah, but the main problem with ignoring people is not the function itself. It has more to do with how the people being ignored will do ANYTHING to grab one’s attention. I’ve had this happen to me as my e-mail attracted several trolls from other social media sites on forums such as these.

“Why are you making such a big deal out of people who are just trying to get a reaction out of you?” WRONG. They don’t want a reaction. They want POWER. They achieve power by seeking vulnerability from others and using it to their advantage. The last thing you would ever want to do is place stigma on an emotional human being who is simply born with emotions, born to react, born to have thoughts, just like pretty much every other human being. That is called life. No clarifications needed!

In short, ignoring someone is only a short-term solution that eventually falls flat once the trolls find an alternative to harass others. Even IF you ignore them, they will NEVER truly go away. They will still EXIST. Stalking them on email is a very good example of this.

 

[Misty Avich]

In short, ignoring someone is only a short-term solution that eventually falls flat once the trolls find an alternative to harass others. Even IF you ignore them, they will NEVER truly go away. They will still EXIST. Stalking them on email is a very good example of this.

I agree with you, as usual lol. I hate it when people advise me to ignore people who are pushing my buttons.
Some forms of bullying are dealt with by just ignoring them, but most forms of bullying aren't solved by ignoring them.
My husband knew an innocent girl at school who got bullied on her way home from school. She took the advice of "just ignore them", and she did. Every day for months she'd ignore them like they weren't there. But that didn't make them stop. It actually made them become more aggressive and frustrated because they weren't getting a reaction. So, after about a year of gaining nothing from bullying the poor girl, the bullying turned into stalking, until they found out where she lived and they set fire to her house (luckily nobody was hurt and the fire was put out before much damage was done). But even so, the intention was to make the poor girl unhappy and the bullies just wouldn't stop until they done something that couldn't be ignored.

General playground teasing can usually be solved by ignoring. But some bullies just won't ever tire of bullying until they get a reaction.

 

[Rodafina]

I think ignoring people takes away their power.

That’s just my opinion.

Sounds like a different opinion than the previous two posters. But, that’s what we’re here for - sharing different perspectives in life.

 

[2Fragile2TakeCriticism]

I agree with you, as usual lol. I hate it when people advise me to ignore people who are pushing my buttons.
Some forms of bullying are dealt with by just ignoring them, but most forms of bullying aren't solved by ignoring them.
My husband knew an innocent girl at school who got bullied on her way home from school. She took the advice of "just ignore them", and she did. Every day for months she'd ignore them like they weren't there. But that didn't make them stop. It actually made them become more aggressive and frustrated because they weren't getting a reaction. So, after about a year of gaining nothing from bullying the poor girl, the bullying turned into stalking, until they found out where she lived and they set fire to her house (luckily nobody was hurt and the fire was put out before much damage was done). But even so, the intention was to make the poor girl unhappy and the bullies just wouldn't stop until they done something that couldn't be ignored.

General playground teasing can usually be solved by ignoring. But some bullies just won't ever tire of bullying until they get a reaction.

My goodness, knowing where someone lives and burning their house down?! That is terrible! Thank goodness nobody was hurt.

 

[2Fragile2TakeCriticism]

I think ignoring people takes away their power.

That’s just my opinion.

Sounds like a different opinion than the previous two posters. But, that’s what we’re here for - sharing different perspectives in life.

Just because it’s your opinion doesn’t mean it’s accurate to ALL perspectives and experiences.

Like I said, regardless of what you believe, ignoring someone will NEVER take away their power. It only makes the situation worse. You’ve obviously never heard of internet trolls who ended up stalking up their targets in real life and even BURN DOWN THEIR HOME!

Think about it. Really, truly, think.

 

[Rodafina]

Just because it’s your opinion doesn’t mean it’s accurate to ALL perspectives and experiences.

Exactly. See? We have the same opinion about this.

 

[2Fragile2TakeCriticism]

Exactly. See? We have the same opinion about this.

That doesn’t explain why you feel the need to argue your point as if it’s superior to those who disagree. No clarifications. It just will not work.

 

[tree]

Clarification doesn't work?

How are people to understand if they
never attempt to make the meaning of what they are
saying accessible to others?

Explaining one's view doesn't automatically indicate
that one believes it superior.

 

[Judge]

Explaining one's view doesn't automatically indicate
that one believes it superior.

You are being logical and rational.

However there are movements out there which are neither, and quite virtuous about it. Where you'll need far more than logic or rationale to expunge them.

 

[2Fragile2TakeCriticism]

Clarification doesn't work?

How are people to understand if they
never attempt to make the meaning of what they are
saying accessible to others?

Explaining one's view doesn't automatically indicate
that one believes it superior.

Dude, there is mansplaining for a reason.

Certain clarifications/explanations are just going to confuse some people and question their own views and experiences.

It’s funny when someone brings up emotion and the brain process and then come annoying contradictions, along with shoving it down their throats because they want the final say based on their side.

I don’t want to argue with mods whom I cannot block so please just let me be without having to stir up an unnecessary debate.

 

[tree]

I don't know why you consider discussion
to be arguing/debate.

It's your infallible view though, apparently,
and no clarification is possible.

 

[Misty Avich]

I think if everyone had the capability to ignore or not get offended by anything on the internet then certain forum rules wouldn't need to be in place.

 

[Rodafina]

I don’t want to argue with mods whom I cannot block so please just let me be without having to stir up an unnecessary debate.

It would be helpful for me to hear from you how I was arguing with you.

 

[2Fragile2TakeCriticism]

I don't know why you consider discussion
to be arguing/debate.

Lol seriously? You’re allowing other people to constantly change the topic of the OP. Trying to change topics to provide a biased statement that has less to do with the OP and provides stigma and dismissal to the target IS an argument/debate. No exceptions.

 

[tree]

I believe you have misunderstood what I was saying.

I meant discussion in general, in real life.
Not something on a forum.

 

[2Fragile2TakeCriticism]

It would be helpful for me to hear from you how I was arguing with you.

Because you’re changing the topic of the OP to place victim blaming and place your opinion on a high pedestal, and when a disagreement takes place, and someone states we stop there, you keep going.

 

[tree]

Are you saying you'd like the thread closed,
so that there would be no further disruption,
as you see it?