Do you believe in IQ?

[Crossbreed]

My opinion is us Aspies have IQ's that cannot be measured best example of this is RIchard Feyndman, I have a similar personality he wrote an IQ test in high school got 125 jokes about it, math genius, won Nobel prize in physics has amazing abilities to visualize. I have written a few popular style IQ test usually get about 133. not sure how close to accurate it is. Same with Albert Einstein usually stated at 160. could be accurate just shows their is more to bright than just IQ. The rare ability to visualize, the way we can cannot easily be measured, this is over and above IQ. Our abilities are in parts per million. I did a statistical thing on Albert once on this forum got 1 per billion. which sounds right.

What you have described is usually picked up by nonverbal tests (like the Ravens & the TONI) & sub-tests (like the Block Test)...

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

I do not think many of us care about our IQ, All I know is I am atypically bright and most of my family is brighter than i am. I did some testing for a job once 30 years ago, conducted by a psychologist she phoned me a few weeks later,
My results had stunned her. I think it was my ability with the which pic is next part of the test as I had asked her prior to the test has any one gotten this part 100%. when I finished I was on the last one, I suspect I got the rest correct. A second more maybe 100%, which probably stunned her. Botching the Reach for the top team, years ago while two of my brothers made it still bothers me. Does not help when cousins son, wins championship ten years later. for those not familiar reach for the top turned into Jeopardy in the USA.

 

[Crossbreed]

Botching the Reach for the top team, years ago while two of my brothers made it still bothers me.

Limits just "are what they are."
I have solved enough problems to know that can happen.
And I have had enough problems kick my butt to know that can happen, too.
I just "rock what I got!"

 

[vergil96]

I care about IQ, because I got a very high result and I can brag about it That was blunt, I know

 

[Crossbreed]

I care about IQ, because I got a very high result and I can brag about it That was blunt, I know

I am too conscious of the "Mensa" curse.
Whenever you mention Mensa or giftedness, you are almost guaranteed to commit a logical or grammatical error before the end of that sentence...!

 

[vergil96]

I am too conscious of the "Mensa" curse.
Whenever you mention Mensa or giftedness, you are almost guaranteed to commit a logical or grammatical error before the end of that sentence...!

That's quick, within the same sentence

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

Limits just "are what they are."
I have solved enough problems to know that can happen.
And I have had enough problems kick my butt to know that can happen, too.
I just "rock what I got!"

My family is sort of competitive, Six kids all bright oldest genius I'm second oldest next younger Mensa member,
I Failed a year in public school so two of us in same grade, keep being compared. When my dad passed a cousin came to me will my wife stood next to me, All my cousin said was you guys won. Basically among all us cousins she conceded, my family was the brightest. That's my family. My ability is my super power worked great over my career
until we hired a new foreman who had previously worked with one of my brothers, kept going around the plant
stating think Ron is bright should meet his brother. I thought it was over in high school.

 

[vergil96]

That Einstein had one in a billion IQ with the score of 160 is curious, I never calculated it, I don't know why. I always calculate things.

 

[DavyBoyAB]

I don't think that my ability to find patterns in IQ tests are represents my intellect. Because the intellect is not only the ability to find patterns and logic between them but also a knowledge. Because your skills into patterns without being taught or without ability to be educated is useless. I also found out that when I'm tired my ability to find patterns reduces, so IQ tests are only represent your current state of efficiency but not real average intellect. When I felt myself fine I had 143 IQ at maximum, but when I did the same test (MENSA one) being tired, sad or under antidepressants, I had only 90-100. Once I even had ~70 as my lowest score.

The real intellect consists of three elements:
1. ability to find for patterns
2. ability to educate yourself / store and use knowledge
3. ability to find more difficult conceptional patterns that require heavy stored knowledge to even notice, and no one IQ test can really test for. its about professionalism and professional testing

 

[Crossbreed]

My family is sort of competitive,...

Hitting a boundary reminds us that we are mortal...

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

All I know is I turned into a legend in my area of expertise industrial painting. Enjoy visiting my family my cousin
is the best drummer in Toronto, and surrounding area, So I am among other legends. Possibly related to Nobel prize winner in physics and my special interest is physics, cannot complain.

 

[Crossbreed]

I have been the guru, too, but I still know what it is like to have my butt handed to me...

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

Watched a video on Julian Schwinger yesterday, loner like some stuff that I did not know about room temperature fusion is not dead, which I suspected years ago, in my minds eye. Best example of guru who faded,

 

[vergil96]

For IQ tests standard deviation is 15.

So 68% of people fall between 85 and 115.

2% have 130 or above
0.1% have 145 or above
0.003% have 160 or above

 

[Misty Avich]

There was a girl at school who had a very high IQ. She was good at every subject, even physical ed, and just soaked up information in every class so well, it's like she knew more than the teacher (but she was a nice girl, not an annoying know-it-all or anything, she really did know a lot).
When she left school I heard she got all A's in all her exams and went on to university to study both law and biology.

So she was smarter than the average kid, and I'd say she had a very high IQ. I used to wonder how her brain worked, as she'd just listen very attentively in every class, remembered everything the teachers taught her, and had a great passion for learning and staying focused, whatever the subject was.

As far as I know she was NT, but rather shy.

Her intelligence fascinated everyone in the class, including me. I lacked intelligence and struggled academically, even at my best subjects.

 

[tlc]

I've always been a natural at figuring things out, given enough time. People like Einstein came up with groundbreaking things, and had their whole life to devote to it. But my social skills and worldly knowledge are seriously lacking, no matter how much time is given.

I know I had taken some tests in the past, so I looked up my posts in here with IQ in the text. One result was 150, one was 144. They said I was a special part of the population (they probably say that to everybody). I say whatever, because I don't feel it, and my lifestyle certainly doesn't show it. If I was really that smart, I would have the skills to make a living, without having to get up and punch the clock all the time.

 

[vergil96]

There was a girl at school who had a very high IQ. She was good at every subject, even physical ed, and just soaked up information in every class so well, it's like she knew more than the teacher (but she was a nice girl, not an annoying know-it-all or anything, she really did know a lot).
When she left school I heard she got all A's in all her exams and went on to university to study both law and biology.

So she was smarter than the average kid, and I'd say she had a very high IQ. I used to wonder how her brain worked, as she'd just listen very attentively in every class, remembered everything the teachers taught her, and had a great passion for learning and staying focused, whatever the subject was.

As far as I know she was NT, but rather shy.

Her intelligence fascinated everyone in the class, including me. I lacked intelligence and struggled academically, even at my best subjects.

That was me at school. I went to study more than one major. Then I burnt out. You can't carry on like that forever. I remeber most of what I read and hear, didn't need to study. I don't mean the memory that you can't carry on like that, but performing great all the time. If you "understand" then apparently you can't have weaknesses and have to try even harder, especially if you're a nerd and things you struggle with are considered "basic" and "easy". I can do a lot of things, but I can't figure out Instagram, phone calls or find items in the grocery store if they change place. Health issues get the best out of me too. Also about memory, it can turn against you as well, in my opinion, remembering and noticing everything can lead to overstimulation. For me it does. And to "scatterbrain", there is no prioritisation and the important stuff can get swept away if there is too much info.

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

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For IQ tests standard deviation is 15.

So 68% of people fall between 85 and 115.

2% have 130 or above
0.1% have 145 or above
0.003% have 160 or above

here is my version suspect IQ is not linear

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

Also in grade nine my parents decided to move both my brother and I failed grade nine math they moved in middle of semester, completely different school system. We are no longer in a thier home country with a standardized system across country, So in grade eleven I told the school I Was taking two years of math in one year They did not like it Being born in January and having failed a grade in public school, I said my choice I'M of legal age. passed both both then loaded up on math and science courses in final year grade 13. No body tells me what my limits are .Do not like languages refused to take English past grade 10 got A's in college English as it was practical Being hyperlexic I knew my capabilities, more then the school did. My brother did not have my math did not follow my lead so he took Psychology in university ended up as a millwright His professor tried to get him to switch to chemistry as he was brilliant at it, Why I took chemistry in college no more competing.

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

Since joining this forum I have learned so much about myself and others like me. The world is not made for us. Bottom line I have no idea how bright I am or how to measure it. As an analogy how can you explain colour to a colour blind person, sure you can use wavelengths of visible light, how could they use this to see it. When I worked with colour all that rally mattered was difference Why I used machine rather tan visual matches I have extraordinary, colour vision but this could not be quantified. Same with IQ we like to quantify stuff, differences matter but an actual number does not. I did SPC on colour, the colour itself did not matter only the difference mattered.