Any fellow Linux users on here?

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Not yet, but I still consider it a potentially viable option. I've resisted it up to now only because it continues to confuse me relative to the Mint driver manager. I still have it bookmarked.

I started using it when I was running Fedora, the version of the driver in the repository (xorg) wouldn't let me have hardware acceleration. Had similar hiccups when I switched over to Ubuntu, so now I only ever use the nVidia version of the driver.

Admittedly that computer no longer gets used enough for me to know if there's any problems or not, but for 3 years it was my only computer.

 

[Judge]

I started using it when I was running Fedora, the version of the driver in the repository (xorg) wouldn't let me have hardware acceleration. Had similar hiccups when I switched over to Ubuntu, so now I only ever use the nVidia version of the driver.

Admittedly that computer no longer gets used enough for me to know if there's any problems or not, but for 3 years it was my only computer.

I learned very early into Linux that while the Xorg/nouveau driver worked and was less trouble-prone, it provided video capability on par with integrated graphics from Intel. Yeah- no hardware acceleration. Unacceptable .

Though I really do suspect this is video-driver and possibly power-related related, happening with a specific update of both driver and perhaps kernel update as well. Ever since an update during Mint 21.3. Of course IMO rolling back a kernel update while easily done in Mint is a fundamentally bad idea given that virtually all kernel updates inherently involve routine security concerns.

Another thing I wonder about is if it could be monitor-related...in that in using Nvidia's 1660Ti, I went from using a DVI port to using a power-regulated HDMI port. At the time I thought it was a fundamental upgrade in technology. Seems another "hail mary" consideration though...lol. But seriously, I wonder about it. Before I never had this sort of problem using a cumbersome DVI port and cable. No power regulation with an old DVI port, as far as I know. But all that said, can a power disruption in a monitor create a power disruption with the OS?

 

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I went from using a DVI port to using a power-regulated HDMI port.

I always avoided HDMI whenever I could, it's a crap system, it simply struggles with high traffic, doesn't carry the bandwidth. So tearing and pixelation in video playback and lagging in games.

The old DVI port is gone now but it was good while it lasted, now I'm using the newer DV port.

 

[Judge]

I always avoided HDMI whenever I could, it's a crap system, it simply struggles with high traffic, doesn't carry the bandwidth. So tearing and pixelation in video playback and lagging in games.

The old DVI port is gone now but it was good while it lasted, now I'm using the newer DV port.

I've still got my DVI cable. Probably will hook it up just to test it out on the 1660Ti. One thing I've discovered over the years is how many HDMI cables are just too cheap in quality.

 

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HDMI didn't become popular because it's good, it became popular because it's a Sony proprietary system and Sony pushed it because they get royalties from all the manufacturers that use it.

 

[tkcartoonist]

HDMI didn't become popular because it's good, it became popular because it's a Sony proprietary system and Sony pushed it because they get royalties from all the manufacturers that use it.

Them, Toshiba, Hitachi, and a couple others.

 

[Princess Viola]

There's like 83 dang companies that are part of the HDMI Forum.

 

[Judge]

I just stumbled onto an entirely new consideration of my Linux Mint randomly freezing.

Anyone ever heard of "C-States" relative to the CPU? I learned from an LTT YouTube presentation to consider disabling my Intel C-States setting which defaults to "automatic".

I have done so, having turned this feature off inside my overclocking section of the BIOS, rebooted and all I can do now is waiting to see if it still freezes. At least I found something specific which seems to rise beyond the level of so many "hail marys" I've tried that didn't work. Crossing my fingers...and laughing if this does work.

 

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Anyone ever heard of "C-States" relative to the CPU?

I'd never heard of them before, had to look them up. After reading a bit I'm not convinced that it's going to be helpful to you.

What are the CPU c-states? How to check and monitor the CPU c-state usage in Linux per CPU and core? - GoLinuxHub

The problem you're having isn't related to intel processors, if it was literally millions of users would have complained by now.

Using the same logic, the problem you're having isn't directly caused by the nVidia card, if it was it'd be all over the news and they'd be going out of business. Plenty of people have the same card as you, including me, and don't have the same problem.

There's a slim chance that the problem is caused by a fault in your motherboard but that's pretty unlikely these days. The best way to test that is to try a different graphic card and see if the problem persists.

The problem has nought to do with Linux kernels, it if did we'd all have similar experiences. That means it's either the driver you're using, or the implementation of that driver. Or something else within the specific Linux distro you're using.

That pretty much only leaves two options:

Try a driver that hasn't been "fixed" by your distro's development team. ie: Not From The Repository.

Try a different distro.

 

[Judge]

I'd never heard of them before, had to look them up. After reading a bit I'm not convinced that it's going to be helpful to you.

What are the CPU c-states? How to check and monitor the CPU c-state usage in Linux per CPU and core? - GoLinuxHub

The problem you're having isn't related to intel processors, if it was literally millions of users would have complained by now.

Using the same logic, the problem you're having isn't directly caused by the nVidia card, if it was it'd be all over the news and they'd be going out of business. Plenty of people have the same card as you, including me, and don't have the same problem.

There's a slim chance that the problem is caused by a fault in your motherboard but that's pretty unlikely these days. The best way to test that is to try a different graphic card and see if the problem persists.

The problem has nought to do with Linux kernels, it if did we'd all have similar experiences. That means it's either the driver you're using, or the implementation of that driver. Or something else within the specific Linux distro you're using.

That pretty much only leaves two options:

Try a driver that hasn't been "fixed" by your distro's development team. ie: Not From The Repository.

Try a different distro.

Well, I still have to play this out at least for the duration (till Tuesday, maybe). I still have other considerations in the mix, such as rolling back the video driver and a different command line in the GRUB file. I figure a week's time should be good given all the previous freezes. That if they don't happen again, whatever I did worked...whether it was that BIOS change or these other changes.

Beyond that a BIOS update or using a native Nvidia driver seem to be my last options. I could swap the video card with my GTX650Ti, but it might run the risk of the screen going black unless the OS suddenly provides a 390 version driver for such an old card. A problem I once had not with Mint, but with Pop!OS a long time ago.

Otherwise if it happens again, the next best thing is to simply run Pop!OS. Which I already have on another separate drive. Which has never frozen that I can recall. If it doesn't freeze, at least I can attribute the problem to a specific distro, hoping that other Ubuntu distros don't have the same issue.

 

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Hi,
Are you using Linux? If so, which distrubution and why? I am using Ubuntu Budgie 20 beta because it is very reliable and I am used to the format. That and my canon printer works with it.

I have Mint, because it is user friendly. I am done with windows because they make me feel I don't own my computer... but now considering getting a windows laptop for few games I like.

 

[tkcartoonist]

I have Mint, because it is user friendly. I am done with windows because they make me feel I don't own my computer... but now considering getting a windows laptop for few games I like.

You could try SteamOS, which already comes preloaded on SteamDecks. I'm sure someone else has a better solution than me, but gaming on Linux is not impossible.

 

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I've been gaming on Linux for a lot of years now, most games run much better in Linux than they do in Windows.

If you want to play online then set up a Steam account and get your games that way. Steam runs really well in Linux too.

If you're like me and prefer to just play offline by yourself then GOG is a good place to get games, most GOG games will run flawlessly in Linux using Wine. Games I'm currently playing this way include No Man's Sky and The Elder Scrolls Skyrim.

 

[tkcartoonist]

Installing Deus Ex on a Mac was how I cut my teeth on Wine, and that was before I ever used Linux.

 

[Judge]

If you're like me and prefer to just play offline by yourself then GOG is a good place to get games, most GOG games will run flawlessly in Linux using Wine. Games I'm currently playing this way include No Man's Sky and The Elder Scrolls Skyrim.

You using the latest version of Wine, 9.0 ? Just wondering.

I still bust up laughing that Photoshop 5.5 works better under Wine in Linux than it ever did in Windows 10. The only real caveat being to avoid installing it with the option of "Image Ready" and all its dependencies.

Interesting to see some of GOG games are natively ported to Linux.

 

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You using the latest version of Wine, 9.0 ? Just wondering.

I never bothered to look before because everything works sweet. I'm using Wine 6.0.3.

 

[Judge]

I never bothered to look before because everything works sweet. I'm using Wine 6.0.3.

Very interesting. Unfortunately my experience with version 6 was a bit spotty when it came to Photoshop 5.5.

When I got to version 7 and beyond, there were noticeable improvements both in appearance and functionality. Though I still cringe a bit whenever WineHQ cranks out a new version.

I noticed recently that in Mint 22.0 they finally replaced the "6" version of Wine with the latest version in their repository.

 

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When I got to version 7 and beyond, there were noticeable improvements both in appearance and functionality. Though I still cringe a bit whenever WineHQ cranks out a new version.

When I finally get around to updating my system I'll probably end up with a new version of Wine, then I'll find out what's what.

 

[Judge]

When I finally get around to updating my system I'll probably end up with a new version of Wine, then I'll find out what's what.

I'd just like to be able to refrain from having constantly search for installation instructions which aren't always on the same page relative to "jammy jellyfish". Using the repository to install it automatically rather than through the terminal might be refreshing...

I should probably check Pop!OS22.04 to see if they've updated their repository in a similar way, though I suspect they haven't yet.

Of course the reality has been that with each successive version of Wine, usability of Photoshop 5.5 has usually improved a bit. I can't say I've seen anything that might be interpreted as being "regressive" in any way.

 

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Using the repository to install it automatically rather than through the terminal might be refreshing...

I haven't manually installed wine since it's very buggy early days, I just use whatever the repository dishes up.