Any fellow Linux users on here?

[Judge]

Just a quick suggestion for those that like to tinker with their hardware - get a post message beeper. They're truly worth their weight in cocky chaff and can save you so much experimentation when things go wrong.

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Forgot to mention: If I understand my motherboard and bios, I think I might have that option already built in. Or what used to be known as "POST Beeps". I guess people complained enough for manufacturers to bring them back....

 

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Forgot to mention: If I understand my motherboard and bios, I think I might have that option already built in. Or what used to be known as "POST Beeps". I guess people complained enough for manufacturers to bring them back....

They were always there, it's just that the little speaker hasn't been built in to the board since the 90s and is often now sold separately.

The other thing that has changed is that there's no longer a standard pattern for what the different codes mean, each manufacturer uses their own set of codes.

 

[Princess Viola]

Y'all, I finally managed to fix it.

IDK if I mentioned this before but some reason, the OneDrive folder on my Windows drive stopped working when booted into Linux I could no longer open it - it would tell me that it was linking to a path or whatever that didn't exist - and whenever I'd search the error message online, all the results I would get would tell me that it had something to do with OneDrive backing up teh files online and I'd need to login to Windows to make OneDrive local only, which made no sense to me because uhh...literally the very first thing I did with that Windows install (back when I was still using Windows) was disable the online backup feature of OneDrive and have it be local online and I very much cannot boot into Windows try and fix it because my Windows install broke itself and I just couldn't be bothered to fix it.

ANYWAYS there's a plugin for NTFS-3G that's supposed to fix this issue and let you access your OneDrive folder and yet I could not get it to install properly, it just...would not work. BUT TODAY I TRIED AGAIN...and...I GOT IT INSTALLED AND WORKING. I can access that folder again!!!!

Thankfully, I didn't have any critically important files or whatever in the OneDrive folder but I did have my Sims 4 folder with all my mods and saves (I did have a backup of that folder but I made the backup in January and this error started happening in like mid-May) and now I HAVE ACCESS TO THAT AGAIN.

 

[Judge]

Decided to alter the dragon graphic on my present desktop. Gold seems a bit nicer than grey. It's still Linux Mint, but set up to look more like a Mac.

 

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Decided to alter the dragon graphic on my present desktop. Gold seems a bit nicer than grey. It's still Linux Mint, but set up to look more liked a Mac.

So all systems are back to normal then?

That gold would look even better if the YinYang in the middle was black and silver.

 

[Judge]

So all systems are back to normal then?

Sure seems that way. On all three drives....two Mint and one Pop!OS. Nice to be doing creative stuff again instead of troubleshooting.

Finally able to explore some of the new toys in Mint 22.0. Many thanks...

 

[Princess Viola]

Y'all, I finally managed to fix it.

IDK if I mentioned this before but some reason, the OneDrive folder on my Windows drive stopped working when booted into Linux I could no longer open it - it would tell me that it was linking to a path or whatever that didn't exist - and whenever I'd search the error message online, all the results I would get would tell me that it had something to do with OneDrive backing up teh files online and I'd need to login to Windows to make OneDrive local only, which made no sense to me because uhh...literally the very first thing I did with that Windows install (back when I was still using Windows) was disable the online backup feature of OneDrive and have it be local online and I very much cannot boot into Windows try and fix it because my Windows install broke itself and I just couldn't be bothered to fix it.

ANYWAYS there's a plugin for NTFS-3G that's supposed to fix this issue and let you access your OneDrive folder and yet I could not get it to install properly, it just...would not work. BUT TODAY I TRIED AGAIN...and...I GOT IT INSTALLED AND WORKING. I can access that folder again!!!!

Thankfully, I didn't have any critically important files or whatever in the OneDrive folder but I did have my Sims 4 folder with all my mods and saves (I did have a backup of that folder but I made the backup in January and this error started happening in like mid-May) and now I HAVE ACCESS TO THAT AGAIN.

y'know, i wasn't planning on doing this but i figured 'well now that i have access to my sims 4 folder and all my mods and saves again...might as well install the game and see how it runs on linux' and

that was a bit of an exercise in frustration

not getting the sims 4 downloaded and installed, but getting the danged EA app installed

cuz it's like i knew going in that sims 4 is not a native linux game, it's windows and mac-only (as far as computers go, it's also on consoles but that's not relevant here). i don't own it on steam, i own it on the EA app (the thing that used to be origin) but i also know that lutris (which i have installed) can be used to install windows games from the EA app on linux and it handle the configs for wine and such too.

ok so lutris already has an option for the EA app ready for me so i click that and it's like 'ok you are downloading the EA app, the wine prefix will be in home/viola/Games/ea-app' and i can login and it shows all the games i've got on the EA app wow.

except every time i tried to download a game, it would just give me the same error telling me that like the EADesktop.exe file was not found and i try a few times to get it working, i search up 'EADesktop.exe file missing lutris' and there's posts from people with this same issue about how it won't work and some people posting solutions like trying to install it again but before you do so, change the wine version that it's using. so i try that and...yeah same error.

so i do one last search and i find a post, i believe it was on the lutris forums, of someone with this exact issue. and then someone gives a fix that's not 'change the wine version'.

instead this person's fix for the 'EADesktop.exe file not being found' issue is this:
1. let lutris install the EA app like it says it is
2. go to the website for the EA app and download the windows installer
3. right-click the EA app in lutris, click 'configure', go to the game settings tab and then change the executable to the EA app installer executable you downloaded
4. launch the EA app through lutris and it will finish the actual installation
5. change the executable back to the EADesktop.exe executable (that now is actually there)
6. wow congrats u did it, u got the EA app installed through lutris

well i did that and...yeah it worked. the EA app now installed and was working, yay. i could download the sims 4 and all my expansions and packs...like 32 whole GB of it and see how it would run

and it was only running at like 30-40 fps, which made no sense to me because uhh i was getting a minimum 60 fps on windows?????

and yeah then it turns out that uhh the game was set to run on the integrated graphics of my CPU and not my actual dedicated GPU. yeah once i changed that setting, basically no difference from how it performed on windows.

but then after i logged out and logged back in, the EA app would no longer launch through lutris - which means i can't play the sims 4 anymore. it just wouldn't launch. i look it up and other people have that issue too, oh no.

except i fixed that issue by just...going to the config for the EA app and changing the wine version from the default one to proton-ge and that just fixed the issue. sure, gloriouseggroll (the maker of proton-ge) says 'only use proton-ge for steam games inside steam, i won't provide support or assistance if you do otherwise' and 'use wine-ge for non-steam games because it's designed to work with lutris' but if the default version of wine-ge (the latest version) wasn't working and using proton-ge fixes the issue and let's me actually launch the dang app so i can play my dang game...

like for real the only 'issue' i've found with the sims 4 on linux is like it will not launch in fullscreen. even if you have it set to be in fullscreen in the settings, it won't be when you launch it. sure, the settings will say it is fullscreen but (at least for me on linux mint), the panel will be available. and all i gotta do to fix it is just...go to the graphical settings in the game options, change them from fullscreen to either windowed or borderless fullscreen and then cancel the change in the display setting (in order to go back to the previous setting, in this case fullscreen) and then it will be properly fullscreen.

there probably is a fix for this but that is such a non-issue, y'know?

 

[FilterFreq]

I can think of an easy fix. I just can't talk about it here

 

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I can think of an easy fix. I just can't talk about it here

I play a lot of games and I don't have Windows. I also don't use Steam because I dislike the concept of having to log in online in order to be able to play a game offline, and the forced updates. All of my games are installed under Wine and most run far better than they did in Windows.

Keyword for search terms - repack

 

[FilterFreq]

I also don't use Steam because I dislike the concept of having to log in online in order to be able to play a game offline, and the forced updates.

I definitely understand that. Although, even though I don't game much (and would like to do so more) I'd be continually worried about not having cloud saves . But when Steam makes you log into EA for certain games and you're being bounced around by the giants, it gets to be way too complicated. Rockstar is the worst of these with their weird little "social club". *Shudders*

Thanks to the Steam deck, Proton is probably still getting updates, too!

 

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Thanks to the Steam deck, Proton is probably still getting updates, too!

It's the forced update thing that spoils it completely for me. Almost no one in Australia has unlimited downloads. I pay Au$60 a month for 100 gig.

That instantly knocks a lot of games out of my reach if you have to do a 145 gig update before you can play the game, and if you try to spread the download over 2 months you'll be too late because by then there's be another update and you have to start again.

When I first ran into this problem though was when I was living out in the bush, I had a very expensive satellite connection that also wasn't very fast and it had a 1 gig per month download limit. Yes, one gig.

 

[FilterFreq]

I've got a tough one if any of you Linux wizards have any thoughts! Noob question incoming

I decided to upgrade to Ubuntu desktop (gettin' all fancy, I know) just for the GUI/QOL upgrade, but I can't serial-monitor my boards from the dedicated IDE. I can upload to them using both the CLI and the IDE, but I can only monitor them from the CLI. My IDE's serial monitor is just blank when it should be spitting out my debugging stuff.

In a nutshell, I think my IDE is having trouble accessing /dev/ttyusbxx/ or /dev/ttyacmxx/ (I don't quite understand the distinction between assignments, since they're all USB / serial devices), but since it's not having trouble during the uploading process, I'm hoping it's not something more obscure and insidious. It definitely accesses them to upload, and all of that goes smoothly, and again, I can definitely monitor in the CLI, so I can verify that there should definitely be some data showing up in the IDE.

One thought is that maybe the system is using the wrong protocol during uploading vs serial monitoring and thus lacks permissions for both, but what typically causes this? I don't think I had to even use sudo when accessing the serial monitor via the CLI, so it doesn't seem like a root / permissions issue.

Perplexing, indeed!

 

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In a nutshell, I think my IDE is having trouble accessing /dev/ttyusbxx/ or /dev/ttyacmxx/......

It might be easier if you describe what it is that you're trying to do in much more simple every day terms. At first I thought you were talking about having two monitors and one's not working but after reading again I'm just plain confused.

One thing's for sure though, editing anything in the /dev folder is not recommended for the faint hearted, almost any attempt will result in you needing to wipe the drive and reinstall from scratch again.

 

[FilterFreq]

I'm using microcontrollers, but this seems to be a linux-based issue that I've run into quite frequently.

It seems like USB devices end up there when you connect them (I actually have to access them manually through the CLI to get them to work, so I can usually find them easily), either being assigned /dev/ttyacm0 or /dev/ttyusb0. Both use a generic serial protocol to display information, but at the app I'm using (an IDE) doesn't seem to have the same access to the serial protocol that I can get when I'm reading from it in a more 'bare metal' approach.

It seems like some apps might not have certain permissions when it comes to /dev/ttyacm0 / /dev/ttyusb0 but I can't figure it out exactly. On windows, the same IDE immediately knows what to do and reads from the serial protocol, so I'm wondering if there's some kind of soft lockout going on here by default.

I'm thinking about maybe elevating permissions from my IDE to start with to see if that changes anything, but it's strange that it has enough permissions to reprogram my boards without any issue. It's the smallest things that can be the most frustrating at times, because while it's technically still usable this way there's really no means of debugging without having that console handy.

One thing's for sure though, editing anything in the /dev folder is not recommended for the faint hearted, almost any attempt will result in you needing to wipe the drive and reinstall from scratch again.

I definitely wouldn't want to do that in that case. Even if it's a fresh install, that'll set me back a ways! I'm curious as to whether drives can just have a, "Hey, anyone / anything can access this" kind of permission somewhere that I don't know about, because Linux seems to really snap that window of access time down for security reasons or something, whereas Windows just lets everything access it all the time (probably to a fault!)

 

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Thanks, things make a lot more sense now.

I'm thinking about maybe elevating permissions from my IDE to start with to see if that changes anything...

Try just opening it as root to see what the differences are. That's not recommended for every day use but sometimes it helps to better understand what's going on.

Launching your IDE from a terminal also often gives messages that can help, and if it has been compiled with debug flags you can also launch from the terminal in debug mode and get a lot more feedback about what's really happening.

Installing GDB might also be helpful, it should be in your repository but here's their website so you can read more about it:
GDB: The GNU Project Debugger

I think you're probably right that it's only a permissions problem, Linux is much more strict about that sort of thing than Windows.

 

[Judge]

I play a lot of games and I don't have Windows. I also don't use Steam because I dislike the concept of having to log in online in order to be able to play a game offline, and the forced updates. All of my games are installed under Wine and most run far better than they did in Windows.

Keyword for search terms - repack

Care to list some of those games?

Are they dependent solely on Wine and if so, the latest version (9.0) ?

My experience in relying on WineHQ for such things is often confusing and misleading.

 

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My experience in relying on WineHQ for such things is often confusing and misleading.

The way in which they word everything is highly confusing. Even worse is when you try to talk to any of them in the forums you find out that they speak like that in real time too.

Games on my machine:

Black & White
Age Of Empires (the original + Rise of Rome expansion)
Freelancer
GTA San Andreas
Roller Coaster Tycoon 3
The Sims Medieval
Stronghold
Ceasar III
No Man's Sky
The Elder Scrolls Skyrim
Total War collection - Shogun, Medieval and Rome, - all original versions, the remakes suck

I also have a few other games that I can't get to run under Wine properly, some of them used to run before but don't now.

My current Wine version is 6.0.3 - straight out of the Ubuntu repository, no mucking around.

I also have a few other games that I've tried and don't like but they do run on my system, including Factorio and Spore. I've been ripped off too many times and I don't accept that any more, I always try games out before paying for them.

 

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My new laptop got delivered today, yes, on a Sunday for some reason. Windows 11 never even got to complete it's initial setup, I don't want it. Initially I had trouble getting in to bios, and while I was on my other computer looking up what keys to use the Windows 11 setup program started talking to me. The voice sounded like a British female prison guard and the tone was really demanding, telling me how to enable accessibility features. That made me even more determined that Windows is never going to be a part of my world again.

So I installed Ubuntu, twice over now, but haven't got it to boot. It seems to be having trouble recognising some of my hardware including the intel graphics, so now I'm downloading the latest Fedora and I'll give that a go instead.

[Update] Fedora works fine, it always does. Interesting that neither OS could recognise the built in wifi, to connect to the net I had to tether my phone. That's no biggy though, the laptop's only use is going to be when I'm not home and it's not going to be able to connect to my router anyway.

Mostly it's just going to be for internet access when I'm away, and I'll load a few novels and similar in there for when I need time out. It's a bit slow, but I might have a couple of games that will run on it too. And I just learned a new trick - if my phone is connected to my router and tethered to the laptop then the laptop gets it's downloads over my optic fibre connection instead of using phone data.

 

[Judge]

[Update] Fedora works fine, it always does. Interesting that neither OS could recognise the built in wifi, to connect to the net I had to tether my phone. That's no biggy though, the laptop's only use is going to be when I'm not home and it's not going to be able to connect to my router anyway.

Have you thought of reinstalling the network manager? Just a thought. You might also simply turn Onboard WiFi off in the BIOS, reboot and then go back and turn it back on again.

Seems harmless enough to try with Fedora: sudo dnf install network-manager

Fix: Why Isn't Linux Detecting My Wi-Fi Adapter?

 

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Have you thought of reinstalling the network manager? Just a thought. You might also simply turn Onboard WiFi off in the BIOS, reboot and then go back and turn it back on again.

I've been here before a few times. It's simply that there's no driver available - Firmware in Linux language. I know that soon enough there'll be an update and all of a sudden the wifi will become available, in the meantime it's not an issue that concerns me.