Being autistic might not be an issue if society respected you

[WhitewaterWoman]

Edit: In order to help anyone, you must be better or stronger than them. Or how?

Not so. I’ve been helped many times, in many ways with the people who I have served over the years. They have brought joy and love into my life. Many love unconditionally, which is not something most of us “smarter” folks can do.

They also like to help me - all kinds of things - carry something for me (they offer), find someone for me, update me, share birthday cake with me - the list is endless.

I have been expansively blessed by people who are “low functioning.”

 

[lunarious]

Lunarious,

But many people like her nephew have no family, who live miserable lives in group homes under constant pressure to behave more NT.

I am delighted when it works out well, but in many circumstances it does not.

I know. And i do.

 

[WhitewaterWoman]

There's a saviour, one man, whom'll stroke the head of people and enlighten them. We in our school say he'll - of course - fill the earth with Justice like it was filled with corruption.

Edit: in the end times.

All Major Religions believe in a savior. This is the world's Belief.

And what has that got to do with my post that you quoted?

 

[lunarious]

And what has that got to do with my post that you quoted?

1. You were Soft to me like all females should, more or less. Christian Ladies are Soft. We haven't known eachother long, but this is my first impression of you. ... The Hulk is cool/hot and maybe an INTP i heard, but is extremely masculine and litterally is Stronger, but he is Soft when he meets Ladies.

2.

Where did you ever get this idea, that people with level 3 autism are happy?

Having worked for over 20 years in the developmental disabilities community I do not see profoundly disabled people with autism happy because of their limited understanding. They are usually unhappy because of a severely limited life and not receiving he care they need.

I'm replying and assuring you and others whom reads, there'll come a saviour whom'll do things, things i can't do. He'll make things good.

I work under him, unlike @tree she works for CIA

 

[Cutesie]

Where did you ever get this idea, that people with level 3 autism are happy?

Having worked for over 20 years in the developmental disabilities community I do not see profoundly disabled people with autism happy because of their limited understanding. They are usually unhappy because of a severely limited life and not receiving he care they need.

I completely withdraw my statement. A note was added above to reflect that. Thank you for correcting me.

 

[Boogs]

Edit: In order to help anyone, you must be better or stronger than them. Or how?

I disagree, and think this is rather judgemental on others. We all have a huge number of strengths and weaknesses.
No-one is stronger than all others, that's a flat assertion that if true would be almost a claim to god hood - i.e. to say oneself is better at all things than every other person, and that without that greatness one is incapable of helping others?
Instead we all have various aspects of ourselves and they are different. Not necessarily better or worse, and to decide that someone is better or worse than yourself is very judgemental - who are we with all our faults to be like that to others? Judge not lest ye be judged?

"Or how?":
Sometimes you can help someone just by being there for them, you don't need to be 'better' or 'stronger' than them to provide that help.

 

[lunarious]

I'll try pray at least, good day

Edit: We might be on the same team you and I ... why would I say that?

 

[Mary Terry]

@lunarious, I wondered at your comment about death because nothing suggested that @Mary Terry's nephew is miserable. You may not be around them, but there are a lot of autistics who are like that. I've known dozens of people in both the high-functioning and low-functioning groups. [In many cases, the very-low-functioning ones - who aren't expected to try very hard in life, and who don't know that "not supposed to be this way" - are the happiest.]

The final sentence was written in haste based on a couple of anecdotal examples, ignoring even my own witnessed examples of low-functioning autistics who are just as upset about their situation as the higher-functioning ones. I'm glad that @Mary Terry's nephew is from the fortunate ones.

You're right. My nephew is one of the "lucky" ASD-3 people because he does have a loving family, a nice home, security, and a community which has known him all his life and accepts him as he is. But to be fair, I'd have to say that I don't really know for certain if he is truly happy because he cannot communicate by speech or writing or in any other way. He appears happy, he doesn't have meltdowns, but I know that he is aware that he is very different from other people. He is very smart, a math whiz, and has a great sense of humor, but he can't tell me anything to confirm or deny that he is "happy". But he does appear to be happy and content.

 

[Cutesie]

You're right. My nephew is one of the "lucky" ASD-3 people because he does have a loving family, a nice home, security, and a community which has known him all his life and accepts him as he is. But to be fair, I'd have to say that I don't really know for certain if he is truly happy because he cannot communicate by speech or writing or in any other way. He appears happy, he doesn't have meltdowns, but I know that he is aware that he is very different from other people. He is very smart, a math whiz, and has a great sense of humor, but he can't tell me anything to confirm or deny that he is "happy". But he does appear to be happy and content.

Thank you for that. I'm wanting to give a little more explanation into the subject, but my mind can't think clearly now. I've been experiencing a bunch of meltdowns in the past couple of weeks. I'll just say that what I wrote was wrong as a generalization, but it was grounded in real observation and my interpretation of specific cases - that their happiness seems aided by their lack of awareness. And no, we do not know to what extent they are aware. When working in a group home, I used to feel very upset when staff would talk about a level-3 as if he wasn't there.