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Black and White Thinking

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Atrapa Almas said:
I guess that negating that Black and White thinking is a problem is your own cute and special way to provide help with Aspychata request.



I was wondering exactly that of each of your posts in the thread. Aspychata ask for help and phantom negates the problem, negates solutions, negates B&W thinking relation with autism and negates even the drawing stlyle of the picture... So whats phantom point? How is he trying to contribute to this thread?

I guess negation is your own way of copying with problems, because after negating them they are no longer problems. And you are sharing that trick with Aspychata.

Its cute and kind in your own way. :)
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I just disagree with black and white thinking being inherently inferior to "grey" thinking, or it being core symptom of autism. There is no need to start antagonizing or becoming emotional.
 
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Negation thinking- hey this could be a first and true aspect of autism. Is it a subset of B&W thinking, l just need to know how to classify it. Thanks now l will be thinking about this all day- @Atrapa Almas


I think the issue is when B&W thinking becomes so rigid, is this rigid -ness a component of autism @Atrapa Almas ? Do we have a harder time and are not able to attune and grasp this?
 
Atrapa Almas said:
Do you mean something like this?

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It's as if the flow chart was taken from my own mind. Especially the part about it being easier to ask questions than answer them and paying close attention to what people say so that I can ask them questions and keep them talking. That deflects away from me and gives me "cover" enough to deal with the situation.
 
Any form of logic (true or false) is technically black and white thinking. I don't think any sane person is going to make an argument against logic.
 
Yes, l do remember that about you at one time. Lol
But you seem a lot more relaxed these days.
 
Aspychata said:
I think the issue is when B&W thinking becomes so rigid, is this rigid -ness a component of autism @Atrapa Almas ? Do we have a harder time and are not able to attune and grasp this?
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Autism is a kind of divergence in the neurological development. Our brains wont mature the same way NT brains do. So in some aspects we are like childs.

The B&W thinking is one of those child features. If you have seen Pixar's movie Inside Out you may have noticed that when the protagonist mature her "emotional control panel" becomes more complex and so she can feel sadness and hapyness at the same time.

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That is an example of a NT brain development as it matures. For autistic people it is very difficult to feel mixed emotions. As it is difficult to have mixed values or grey thinking. Some of us get to that stage, like we was NT teens. But we dont get to the "NT adult state" in that aspect of mixing emotions, fluid values or grey thinking.

That may be called rigid-ness, most of the times we will be called extremists as for an NT adult is difficult to acept that we perform well in most thinking/logical areas while we behave like kids in social stuff.

Its not that we are rigid, is that our brains mature in a different path than NT brains. So for us learning grey thinking, complex emotions and the like is difficult.

All modern strategies designed to help autist kids include this grey thinking training, mind flexibility, emotion recognition...
 
Sometimes l do feel teen like in my thinking but if it's something l am interested in, l dwelve deeper. Like immature emotionally at times, but introspective at other times. It gets down to sleep and caffeine. Lol
 
It's the ability to flip out of B&W thinking and into the grey area of driving her home. And this is very much a ND/NT issue perhaps?
 
Aspychata said:
It's the ability to flip out of B&W thinking and into the grey area of driving her home. And this is very much a ND/NT issue perhaps?
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Demographically speaking, I'd have to answer "no" to that. Only because if we allegedly constitute 1.8% of the population, how many of us are likely to be employed in such a capacity having to make that particular decision?

We'd be talking about a minuscule number of persons, which makes it difficult to establish any kind of pattern, let alone statistic that could back up such a conclusion.

That IMO, if anything what more likely reflects such a mentality may be found within the realm of police culture itself. In which both ND & NT persons might be found, but with great disparity. Where more often than not discretion is waved in favor of making a less complex decision in a short amount of time.

Ironic though to consider that I spent nearly 20 years working daily at making highly complex decisions without adequate data in a very short amount of time.
 
I have a difficult time with grey areas. I tend to think in "black and white", not because of ridged thinking, but more because it's how I navigate social interaction...always have, most likely always will. I need definites, not 'I guess so' or 'maybe'. I don't understand indecision.
 
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