Cannabis Usage (Any similar experiences?)

[Magna]

@Kayla55 I think I follow what you're saying. Between alcohol and cannabis, both used in moderation, I disagree with you that alcohol would be preferred. The metabolization of alcohol by the liver creates toxins. The metabolization of THC by the liver in the consumption of edibles does not create toxic byproducts as far as what's been studied on the process so far.

I don't know who you're referring to when you said: "...if you suggesting this for ASD then you don't know what you talking about.". I don't think it's me since I stated clearly that I don't recommend that anyone try cannabis and I don't recommend that they avoid it. It's a personal choice that only an individual can make for themselves.

To you comment about ASD and cannabis being a bad combination and ill advised: I like in the U.S. and the state I live in has had legal medical marijuana for years. It's worth noting that one of the diagnoses on a fairly small list of diagnoses that qualify for medical marijuana is...Autism Spectrum Disorder. While I don't consider healthcare practitioners to be infallible, I also don't believe ASD would be on the list unless it was efficacious for those with ASD for whom a physician prescribes cannabis.

 

[Kayla55]

@Kayla55 I think I follow what you're saying. Between alcohol and cannabis, both used in moderation, I disagree with you that alcohol would be preferred. The metabolization of alcohol by the liver creates toxins. The metabolization of THC by the liver in the consumption of edibles does not create toxic byproducts as far as what's been studied on the process so far.

I don't know who you're referring to when you said: "...if you suggesting this for ASD then you don't know what you talking about.". I don't think it's me since I stated clearly that I don't recommend that anyone try cannabis and I don't recommend that they avoid it. It's a personal choice that only an individual can make for themselves.

To you comment about ASD and cannabis being a bad combination and ill advised: I like in the U.S. and the state I live in has had legal medical marijuana for years. It's worth noting that one of the diagnoses on a fairly small list of diagnoses that qualify for medical marijuana is...Autism Spectrum Disorder. While I don't consider healthcare practitioners to be infallible, I also don't believe ASD would be on the list unless it was efficacious for those with ASD for whom a physician prescribes cannabis.

Dyspraxia that is what I believe CBD is not good for ASD and why smoking regular cannabis isn't same as oils, since mentioning difference in previous thread...some seem to notice. It's also reason treating arthritis asd is different from NT people who use it.

Alcohol is bad for blood pressure however it is a calmant in that relax you but not in excessive use. Alcohol can make some aggressive and I don't think marijuana does this.
I used thc oil to treat my PTSD and years after quitting smoking due to bad effects. It was different and I never used it everyday, again!! I'm open minded, but I'm also a realist and that's why I tell people this. The other person who came later for thc treatment was asd3 and given by mother oils everyday....I noticed it helped meltdowns. I realised it was used by a family who struggled with him being aggressive during meltdowns, I don't think they meant badly. I could also see he was well cared for and so I never reported it to authorities as it's his life with his family and an institution would care less than his mother. It was my judgement, however others disagreed Nd reported her and at time it wasn't legal.

Smoking everyday affects concentration and memory. Using it occassionally on a weekend as oil may be better. I don't recommend smoking to students or people who have jobs and together, we are discussing this as medication. Due to severity of impact of asd on our lives I'm not ruling this out, but I'm precise on how it's medical.
I did try ecstasy when I was younger, it was fun and trippy for me until I realised it was about sex. I am the minority as a a-sexual and didn't find my sex drive went up so I hope people don't think it's way to exploit women with asd....
It may work for others but I worry about addiction as I had always felt I was never good enough.
Be safe

 

[wildMinds]

All my life I over analyzed and worried about aspects of my life. I worked very hard at school but by the time I graduated from engineering I had turned to daydreaming(wild minds to avoid searches to porn sites). I couldn’t concentrate. I couldn’t hold down a job. I suffered 15 to 20 clinical depressions! Then, at 69 while preparing for a move, I got so stressed thinking about politics and the move I had to go outside to cool off. I couldn’t accomplish anything. I was in real trouble.

I phoned an aspy friend who had been taking cannabis for many years. I asked him why- over analysis in his mind. I went to the store and got 10 mg lozenges of THC. (THC is for angry autism, not CBD.) I felt woozy for an hour then much better. I slept for longer than normal. I still have a problem controlling my daydreaming for pleasure and my sleep apnea but I would have had a much better life had I discovered this earlier!

 

[Magna]

I'm glad it sounds like it's helping you. I would disagree that THC is a therapeutic for "angry autism", whatever that means.

Autism has been one of the diagnoses that qualifies for medical cannabis in my state and has been so for a good number of years. That would be THC as a main component and not not for "angry autism".

 

[Rodafina]

THC is for angry autism

What does “angry autism” mean?

 

[tree]

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/mar...nts-american-medical-association-study-finds/

 

[Vindiesel]

In the past all I feel it did was narrow the receiving information window on the world which was a relief, depending on the dose a scooch of paranoia, and at time cyclical time lapse. Like a did something 5 minutes ago forgot about it and then remembered I did it 10mintues later type situation. Moderation is key not a compensation supplement for bottling up problems or an everyday ritual.

 

[Magna]

It's looking probable that the U.S. will be moving cannabis from it's current "Schedule I" drug status (ie no useful or medicinal purpose), clearly false and behind the times to "Schedule III" which would have its own set up problems. However, if that happens, we'd see a huge leap forward in legal studies on cannabis and its medicinal potential. For example, it was found that cannabis users fared better with Covid 19.

Cannabinoids Block Cellular Entry of SARS-CoV-2 and the Emerging Variants

https://journal.chestnet.org/article/S0012-3692(23)02201-8/fulltext

 

[chincey_james]

I'm very sensitive to medications and drugs. I am particularly sensitive to marijuana. It gives me wild panic attacks. I've had to make the call that it's not for me. Once you've had a true panic attack, you'd do almost anything to avoid it happening again.

 

[The Pandector]

High school in the 60’s, we sat around smoking joints and watching the hilarious government propaganda film, Reefer Madness. What a hoot!

Then I grew up, after a manner of speaking. I found cannabis to be incompatible with work and family and quit. (Cannabis, not work). Now I’m old and my responsibilities in life are few.

As others onboard here understand better than I do, the human endocannabinoid system (first discovered due to the popularity of pot) is a regulatory system, dedicated to maintaining balance in the body.

My wife’s two best friends were an ER nurse and a nurse practitioner. As her cancer progressed, they both encouraged her to try smoking cannabis as part of her end game, but she was nervous, as we had heard that today’s cannabis is much more potent. So I tried it out and it’s true. So strong as to be a different drug. She never tried it.

I, however, found some amazing things. First, it has an impact on my chronic anxiety, even though anxiety can be a negative side effect for some. My brain rarely quits analyzing and concluding, but cannabis can leave me more mentally relaxed. I’ve lived with considerable pain for decades, due to spinal cord injury. I don’t take pain killers in general, but can appreciate the relief of cannabis. Likewise, arthritis can really mess up a day, but cannabis’ anti inflammatory properties tend to soothe my joints. Mental relaxation, pain relief, anti inflammatory; what more could an isolated old geez ask for?

Clarity. Regardless of the relief it can provide me, regular use of cannabis dulls my intelligence and steals my motivation. Sure, I can take a few hits and blow the best blues harp of my life, but I’m altogether too stupid and clumsy to operate the sound equipment. Then, after a while I have a strong aversion to physical activity and am drawn into the TV or Xbox for hours after.

A few days ago the change of weather had my joints griping and I took a moderate amount. Made walking around the house much easier. Then, my DIL called to say the grandkids were over and asking for me. Of course I’m not going to wrestle around with the kids stoned, so missed a rare opportunity to beat up all the grandchildren at once. Not only does cannabis isolate you in the moment, it tends to carry its own isolation effect.

So, yes, I could get stoned and wax poetic about the relief it can provide, but I’d rather warn you that, like many strong medicines, it carries considerable risks and should be consumed in moderate doses at infrequent intervals.

Still, Reefer Madness was hilarious government propaganda, probably now used by government propaganda experts as the example of how not to run bull through the streets.

 

[The Pandector]

It's looking probable that the U.S. will be moving cannabis from it's current "Schedule I" drug status (ie no useful or medicinal purpose), clearly false and behind the times to "Schedule III" which would have its own set up problems. However, if that happens, we'd see a huge leap forward in legal studies on cannabis and its medicinal potential. For example, it was found that cannabis users fared better with Covid 19.

Cannabinoids Block Cellular Entry of SARS-CoV-2 and the Emerging Variants

https://journal.chestnet.org/article/S0012-3692(23)02201-8/fulltext

Well, of course the cannabis users did better during the pandemic. You’re already sitting at home getting paid to do nothing; a coupla tokes for levity and you’re off.

Wait! Are you saying that cannabis keeps you from catching Covid? That’s interesting.

 

[Kavigant]

I live in a state which has legalized cannabis. Before it was legalized, I wasn't really into it. Teenaged experimentation showed me that pot smoking made me feel paranoid and isolated.

However, a few years ago I started experimenting with cannabis edibles. I learned that when I was a teen, I was getting TOO HIGH. Even now, getting too high makes me paranoid.

But, as an adult, I've learned that getting just a bit buzzy (instead of SUPER HIGH) helps me to get out of my mental loops, ruminating, and overthinking. Getting a bit buzzy at night helps me to relax into sensation more than intellectualizing. It helps get me out of my head and into my body, where I can relax a bit more.

I would prefer to vape dry flower over consuming edibles, but my asthma doesn't like when I vape. I see cannabis like any tool - it can help some people, and some people can abuse it. I think it was unfairly demonized a long time ago, and I'm glad to be able to consume it responsibly today.

(As an aside, I HATE the taste of all alcoholic beverages, so I've never been able to use a nightly glass of wine or can of beer to help me unwind)

 

[Magna]

Wait! Are you saying that cannabis keeps you from catching Covid? That’s interesting.

That's what I gather from the study findings.

 

[Kavigant]

Haha - I never really thought about this before realizing that I'm autistic, but when cannabis was first legalized in my state, I started conducting fairly organized studies on myself, putting together a spreadsheet of different strains, brands, THC/CBD content, dosage, method of delivery (vaping vs edibles), impressions, etc.

Different strains (ie Green Crack, Birthday Cake, etc ) will have different effects on the consumer. I prefer strains which give a more uplifting and creative high, but I'm a writer.

I had the best results by starting out with cannabis mints which contained only 2.5mg THC each. These are difficult to find, though. 5mg per edible will likely be too much for many first-timers.

 

[Kavigant]

That's what I gather from the study findings.

There has been interesting research on the effect of cannabinoids and nicotinoids on COVID. Unfortunately, anyone doing any less-mainstream science on that disease was denounced as a science-denying heretic and falsely demonized.

 

[Magna]

What you say, @The Pandector and @Fraxinus resonates with me. Cannabis seems to be conducive to social consumption and/or it seems to be something done in isolation rather than something in the middle of those two poles. At least that's my experience. Long gone are the days for me of having a core group of friends where passing the joint was part of our shared lifestyle. I'm focusing on moderation and as a form of therapy for myself now. Occasionally edibles and vaping dry herb (not at the same time).

 

[Kavigant]

I'm very sensitive to medications and drugs. I am particularly sensitive to marijuana. It gives me wild panic attacks. I've had to make the call that it's not for me. Once you've had a true panic attack, you'd do almost anything to avoid it happening again.

I've defintely had true panic attacks. Taking TOO LARGE a dose of THC gave me what felt exactly like a horrific panic attack. But taking a specific, low dose via lozenge calmed the Generalized Anxiety Disorder which had plagued me for most of my life.

 

[Magna]

I've defintely had true panic attacks. Taking TOO LARGE a dose of THC gave me what felt exactly like a horrific panic attack. But taking a specific, low dose via lozenge calmed the Generalized Anxiety Disorder which had plagued me for most of my life.

Do you recall the low dose you were taking in milligrams?

 

[Kavigant]

Do you recall the low dose you were taking in milligrams?

I began with 2.5mg lozenges, but I never see such a small dose being sold anymore.
So, 5mg lozenges were my mainstay for about 4 years. 5mg helps me to relax with only minor impairment. I can still talk, clean house, etc. 5mg affects me kinda like a single mixed drink would
If I want to get pretty high and veg out, a 10mg edible will make me pretty loopy and useless.
If I'm having a major crisis, I'll consume 15mg for total intoxication, but that's super rare.

(As an aside: I'm a short man who tends to be fairly sensitive to medications and other chemicals)

 

[chincey_james]

I've defintely had true panic attacks. Taking TOO LARGE a dose of THC gave me what felt exactly like a horrific panic attack. But taking a specific, low dose via lozenge calmed the Generalized Anxiety Disorder which had plagued me for most of my life.

That's amazing. Glad you found what works for you!