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GRUMPY CAT NEEDS HELP ON "DIPLOMACY" PAPER

Can you give an example of micro analysis in the game?

If the three countries (Britain, France & Russia) coordinated their next two turns they could effectively wipe Germany from the map. If anything, it appears that Britain's fleet is poised to attack Kiel from the Helgoland Bight with support from their armies in Denmark and Holland. This move would take Germany's army at Kiel off the map as there's no place for it to retreat to.

Meanwhile Russia could use their army in Warsaw to attack Germany's army in Silesia with their two armies in Galicia and Prussia in support. The retreating German army would then have no place to go but Bohemia in Austria-Hungary.

In the same turn France needs to take their army in Piedmont and move it north into Tyrolia. And take their fleet in the Gulf of Lyon and move it to Piedmont in Italy. Once they do this, in the next turn France can take their army in Burgundy and attack Munich with armies in Tyrolia and the Ruhr for support. The German army in Munich would have no place to retreat to so it would be removed from the map. France should also take their army in Tuscany and move it into Rome to take that supply center from Italy if it hasn't already done so. And move their fleet in the Gulf of Lyon into the Tyrrhenian Sea.

These coordinated moves in two turns by Britain, Russia and France would effectively leave Germany without any supply centers, and only a single remaining army outside their own border in Bohemia. At this point Germany is effectively out of the game as long as that remaining army cannot take another supply center.

If France makes these moves, Italy should take heed to survive. To move all their fleets towards their own waters so they can support their retreating army, and possibly use those fleets to convoy that army in Tunis to where it's better needed in Italy itself.

Of course all of this leaves Austria-Hungary ripe for the picking. It's just a matter of how Britain, France and Russia divide the spoils. Why Turkey is just sitting there beats me. They should be aggressively moving into the Balkans and westward, taking supply centers. They should take advantage of Austria-Hungary being attacked on multiple fronts.

Of course as a game as opposed to history, there's always the possibility of the three allied nations turning on each other. After all, only one can win the game itself. But I suspect they'll probably honor their alliance and take Austria-Hungary, Italy and lastly Turkey out of the game before they begin turning on each other.
 
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If the three countries (Britain, France & Russia) coordinated their next two turns they could effectively wipe Germany from the map. If anything, it appears that Britain's fleet is poised to attack Kiel from the Helgoland Bight with support from their armies in Denmark and Holland. This move would take Germany's army at Kiel off the map as there's no place for it to retreat to.

Meanwhile Russia could use their army in Warsaw to attack Germany's army in Silesia with their two armies in Galicia and Prussia in support. The retreating German army would then have no place to go but Bohemia in Austria-Hungary.

In the same turn France needs to take their army in Piedmont and move it north into Tyrolia. And take their fleet in the Gulf of Lyon and move it to Piedmont in Italy. Once they do this, in the next turn France can take their army in Burgundy and attack Munich with armies in Tyrolia and the Ruhr for support. The German army in Munich would have no place to retreat to so it would be removed from the map. France should also take their army in Tuscany and move it into Rome to take that supply center from Italy if it hasn't already done so. And move their fleet in the Gulf of Lyon into the Tyrrhenian Sea.

These coordinated moves in two turns by Britain, Russia and France would effectively leave Germany without any supply centers, and only a single remaining army outside their own border in Bohemia. At this point Germany is effectively out of the game as long as that remaining army cannot take another supply center.

If France makes these moves, Italy should take heed to survive. To move all their fleets towards their own waters so they can support their retreating army, and possibly use those fleets to convoy that army in Tunis to where it's better needed in Italy itself.

Of course all of this leaves Austria-Hungary ripe for the picking. It's just a matter of how Britain, France and Russia divide the spoils. Why Turkey is just sitting there beats me. They should be aggressively moving into the Balkans and westward, taking supply centers. They should take advantage of Austria-Hungary being attacked on multiple fronts.

Of course as a game as opposed to history, there's always the possibility of the three allied nations turning on each other. After all, only one can win the game itself. But I suspect they'll probably honor their alliance and take Austria-Hungary, Italy and lastly Turkey out of the game before they begin turning on each other.

Judge, in the beginning of the game England and Italy get two fleets and one army. Is that beneficial to them? Or do the other countries get an upper hand getting the two armies and one fleet?
 
Judge, in the beginning of the game England and Italy get two fleets and one army. Is that beneficial to them? Or do the other countries get an upper hand getting the two armies and one fleet?

Absolutely, because of their immediate exposure to the high seas. An advantage other nations don't have. Logistical mobility by convoying armies great distances. Something individual armies can't accomplish by themselves.
 
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Oh goodness, I can see why our Grumpy Cat has been bowed up and hissing and spitting lately! It'd be easier to write about chess. I bid thee good luck and good sleeps.

...And just what degree are you studying for!?

Even Mr. Spock would have problems with this game compared to the multi-level chess game he used to beat everyone at on the Enterprise. :eek:
 
Judge, we (Italy) thought we could sneak up on Turkey and start getting their supply centers after we took Tunis since Turkey was headed up North. We didn't go West because France was over there and they had fleets avail to support. Only in the last picture are they moving away from the West. You're right too, about Austria, I don't trust them anymore than I can throw them. The guy on our team is "conspiring" with them. I don't think we had much of a chance with Italy anyway. The teacher is even surprised we're still existing. I just love this game! (That last sentence was extreme sarcasm.) :rolleyes:
 
Judge, we (Italy) thought we could sneak up on Turkey and start getting their supply centers after we took Tunis since Turkey was headed up North. We didn't go West because France was over there and they had fleets avail to support. Only in the last picture are they moving away from the West. You're right too, about Austria, I don't trust them anymore than I can throw them. The guy on our team is "conspiring" with them. I don't think we had much of a chance with Italy anyway. The teacher is even surprised we're still existing. I just love this game! (That last sentence was extreme sarcasm.) :rolleyes:

You bought time with an alliance with Austria-Hungary. For a bit, it worked. But it was a huge mistake overestimating France's fleet capabilities. It's a land-based power that spends most of its efforts against their traditional foe, Germany.

Militarily you should have kept your offensive plans due west- not east. And diplomatically have sold France on the idea that they aren't a naval power. I would have sought a diplomatic agreement with France first, and then later attacked them. :cool:

And honored an agreement with Turkey (the "sick man" of Europe), knowing they'd get bogged down in the Balkans anyways. You should have apprised me of the game's progress much earlier. ;)
 
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Judge, I'm reading how Austria usually has to offer up a supply center for an alliance. We didn't get that. How is that done?
 
Judge, I'm reading how Austria usually has to offer up a supply center for an alliance. We didn't get that. How is that done?

Too late for them to do that. That's a very subjective move, and usually when they have a supply center they control that is outside their borders. Such as Serbia. Too far for you to reach without leaving Italy unprotected.
 
Too late for them to do that. That's a very subjective move, and usually when they have a supply center they control that is outside their borders. Such as Serbia. Too far for you to reach without leaving Italy unprotected.

How does one even get to negotiate a supply center? Do you have to write certain orders?
 
Judge, can we (Italy) move Venice to Rome and support with the fleet from Ionian to Tyrrhenian?

Anything you can do to consolidate adjacent fleets with armies inside Italy (preferably on supply centers) might buy you some time. But frankly I think that's all it will do. But yes, move your fleets so they are adjacent to your armies inside Italy to save your country!

Get that army in Tunis and find a fleet to convoy it back to Italy ASAP.
 
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How does one even get to negotiate a supply center? Do you have to write certain orders?

It's not practical in your present predicament for either of you. But I'll explain the mechanics, anyways.

You just request a conference with Austria Hungary in private. Whether you want to write your alliance down in writing is up to both countries. In the next formal move Austria-Hungary has to exit the supply center if they have an army on it. Otherwise you simply head your army towards it. You need not explain it to your enemies.

Trieste is close by, but with only one army in Venice it would be stupid to leave Italy. Equally stupid for Austria-Hungary to give up a native supply center inside its own border. That's why it isn't practical at the time being or the foreseeable future. Italy needs to rally its fleets and armies within Italian waters to save/strengthen itself. If the other three powers aren't paying attention, you might actually buy time against France.
 
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And something else, Judge. Can you look at the last picture of everyone's pieces? Should they have picked armies instead of fleets or vice versa?

That's too broad a question to answer. It depends entirely upon what their strategic plan is at a given time. But having many fleets is always critical for Britain and Italy. That seldom changes due to their proximity to water.

Equally it's probably pointless for Russia to have more than one fleet...even thought they have two. It's a land power. They need armies- not fleets. Same with Germany and Austria-Hungary.

Funny to think of Russia having a fleet in Berlin...lol. Whatever....:rolleyes:
 
That's too broad a question to answer. It depends entirely upon what their strategic plan is at a given time. But having many fleets is always critical for Britain and Italy. That seldom changes due to their proximity to water.

Equally it's probably pointless for Russia to have more than one fleet...even thought they have two. It's a land power. They need armies- not fleets. Same with Germany and Austria-Hungary.

Funny to think of Russia having a fleet in Berlin...lol. Whatever....:rolleyes:

Judge, where exactly are the Balkans?
 
Judge, where exactly are the Balkans?

File:Balkans regions map.png - Wikitravel

797px-Balkans_regions_map.png
 
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Judge, looking at the final board, does it appear to look like there are any alliances?

Well, it seems to be too much of a coincidence that Britain, Russia and France are all squeezing Germany into oblivion at the same time!

Turkey looks as though it's not made any alliances with anyone. And it appears that Italy is not in an alliance with Britain or Russia. Germany and Austria-Hungary have played so badly it makes me wonder at times if they had an alliance at all. Historically speaking they're supposed to be the aggressors!
 
Well, it seems to be too much of a coincidence that Britain, Russia and France are all squeezing Germany into oblivion at the same time!

Turkey looks as though it's not made any alliances with anyone. And it appears that Italy is not in an alliance with Britain or Russia. Germany and Austria-Hungary have played so badly it makes me wonder at times if they had an alliance at all. Historically speaking they're supposed to be the aggressors!

it looks like France and England are together.
 

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