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(part 2 of x)
What is more, about Prousts*s *Days of reading*, written, obviously but importantly, before *In search of lost time*, it has been said ‘Marcel Proust conceived *Journées de Lecture*, as an introduction to his translation of John Ruskin’s* Sesame and Lilies*.’ In a youtube video Jeanette Winterson—- author of the almost Proustian ‘erotics of the mind’ embodying, dealing with non heterosexual romance and sexual themes as it does, *Oranges are not the only fruit*----says, as a cautionary prerequisite to becoming a writer, “However,...you must *invent* . And yet surely when making sketches, notebook entries on other books, there *is* invention of a sort that comes in the form, as it were, of ‘translating from English into English’; in other words, translating from the authors grasp of English(!), and your own, usually much firmer, grasp of it? And yet, Winterson is still correct, I think; if you want to write, in the final analysis, ‘you must *invent*.’
In Steve Lukes’s *Emile Durkheim: his life and work*, he argues about that other Belle Epoque and Fin de siecle period straddling figure, the Sociologist Emile Durkheim—he, like Proust, was intimately involved with the Dreyfus affair, for example—- had a ‘lack of certain inventive faculties’, on the one hand, but luckily for him, and for perhaps many of us, on the other hand was adamant and articulate about the notion that human beings needed what he termed a ‘limited task’ in order to achieve happiness, and avoid ‘anomie’, the latter which, in it’s most extreme manifestations, could lead to nothing less than suicide.
Indeed, G. K. Chesterton says of the young Dickens both “the prospects for the boy were growing drearier and drearier, he nearly fell down and died at his work’, and yet “The young Dickens was forever throwing himself back upon the pleasures of the imagination”. But to reiterate a theme in the previous part of this two-pronged post— James Wood’s list *The Elegant Variations*, after all, being important in an (intensely autism related) *The pattern seekers; a new theory of human invention* kind of way, even if Hemingway’s comment on F. Scott FItzgerlad “his talent was as natural as the dust on a butterfly's wings”, doesn’t apply to my own hapless writing enterprise ( there is nothing effortless about what I do, however much it is sometimes ‘Engelsian garrulous parrot speaking’ in character)—-Dickens, in *A Tale of Two Cities* says “There was yet an upper staircase, of a steeper inclination and of contracted dimensions, to be ascended, before the garret story was reached.” Well elsewhere in chapter four of *The History of Mr Polly* H. G. Wells says; ‘His attention was drawn inward by a troublesome tooth, and he sucked at it spitefully” And—-if you substitute for spitefully a more positive, friendly word— then we can perhaps (Marxian ‘use-value’ sense) profitably remind ourselves that, as, in a (completely) previous post, GypsyMoth has said; ‘Remember. It only takes one rock at a time to build a wall, and it only takes one word at a time to write a book.’ (?)
Indeed, GypsyMoth may, and not just in a nomenclature kind of sense, be more of a latter day Fitzgeraldian , talent-as-natural-as-a-butterfly, natural writer than I am, but I certainly have a— however hapless— version of the work ethic! However hopefully it is evident that I have a child-like innocence that I’ve been stubborn on maintaining up until this, my thirty-sixth year; which perhaps means that although I don’t possess Fitzgerald’s talent from a Hemingwayian standpoint, nevertheless, my imagination is of the sort to be captured again and again and again, by such book titles of Fitzgeralds as *The Diamond as big as the Ritz*. Scientists tend to deem such ideas as hopelessly quixotic and hopelessly unscientific. However the literature-loving A. Einstein was surely onto something when he said; “Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand." ?
At any rate, we have talked of GyspysMoth, literary butterflies, and embarrassing but persistent work horses like me. We have talked of diamonds, but how about pearls? For not only has it been said of Kerouac's *On the road*; “A book that manifests a style more in keeping with Walt Whitman than with F. Scott Fitzgerald “--- see my previous post replying specifically to GyspyMoth where I allude to both Walt Whitman, ‘what I shall assume, you shall assume’ (and vice versa), and the long, rich practical invitation constituting literary tradition of ‘the epistolary novel’---but furthermore in Kerouac’s greatest novel itself, there is the quixotic disposition encapsulating line; ‘I knew that soon the pearl would be handed to me. That there would be girls, visions, everything.”
Many writers have ‘sketched’ (see, for example Melville’s 1847 work *Omoo* , although Kerouac, for example— and Walt Whitman before him in impressionistic works such as *Specimen days*--- would also often do it.) Painters in the 19th and early 20th century—when the sensuous spirit of both The Belle Epoque and The Fin de siecle captured the imaginations of thousands of creative souls!---- would, obviously but importantly, spend hours at the louvre in Paris, simply sketching. Well surely reading for pleasure, and occasionally breaking off to make notes on a scene, or other excerpt, can potentially be the source for original literature, also? It is in another sense, not only often an example of art proving to become even more important than science, but in a sense, potentially often always a latest historical example of, that sometimes most esoteric seeming multifaceted business, ‘the science of art’. (wink)
(Comments, as ever, welcome. Speak soon, hopefully. )
<<<<footnotes(!) >>>>>
**1** Please know that, although I have historically been an active Trotskyist, I am now on the ‘radical centre left’, political position wise (see Perry Anderson’s, in my opinion, strangely not consciously autism related book *Spectrum: From Right to Left in the World of Ideas*); however I have never been a Stalinist. But I am interested in H. G. Wells. Hopefully that is not a contradiction too far. There is an old saying “have the courage of your curiosity’; perhaps my own curiosity is but a latest historical version, albeit of a sub kind, of Lewis Carroll’s *Alice in Wonderland*? At any rate, this raises again up into the old conceptual semantic field, so to speak, that memorable moment from *An Anthropologist on Mars*; i.e. concerning the rich inner life of autistic people, on the one hand, and their sometimes explosive desire to *communicate*, on the other; *sometimes* ‘..only a full biography will do’, And yet— fear not, readers!-- for again *pace* Dickens, but with J. D. Salinger, don’t worry, “l’ll spare you that David Copperfield kind of crap”. However the occasional, oddball autobiographical titbit I may still give to you guys, the patient readers, however much you are a, perhaps inevitably by this point, somewhat alarm-bell-triggering, ‘dwindling in cyber-demographic scope’ type of group, so to speak. (wink)
What is more, about Prousts*s *Days of reading*, written, obviously but importantly, before *In search of lost time*, it has been said ‘Marcel Proust conceived *Journées de Lecture*, as an introduction to his translation of John Ruskin’s* Sesame and Lilies*.’ In a youtube video Jeanette Winterson—- author of the almost Proustian ‘erotics of the mind’ embodying, dealing with non heterosexual romance and sexual themes as it does, *Oranges are not the only fruit*----says, as a cautionary prerequisite to becoming a writer, “However,...you must *invent* . And yet surely when making sketches, notebook entries on other books, there *is* invention of a sort that comes in the form, as it were, of ‘translating from English into English’; in other words, translating from the authors grasp of English(!), and your own, usually much firmer, grasp of it? And yet, Winterson is still correct, I think; if you want to write, in the final analysis, ‘you must *invent*.’
In Steve Lukes’s *Emile Durkheim: his life and work*, he argues about that other Belle Epoque and Fin de siecle period straddling figure, the Sociologist Emile Durkheim—he, like Proust, was intimately involved with the Dreyfus affair, for example—- had a ‘lack of certain inventive faculties’, on the one hand, but luckily for him, and for perhaps many of us, on the other hand was adamant and articulate about the notion that human beings needed what he termed a ‘limited task’ in order to achieve happiness, and avoid ‘anomie’, the latter which, in it’s most extreme manifestations, could lead to nothing less than suicide.
Indeed, G. K. Chesterton says of the young Dickens both “the prospects for the boy were growing drearier and drearier, he nearly fell down and died at his work’, and yet “The young Dickens was forever throwing himself back upon the pleasures of the imagination”. But to reiterate a theme in the previous part of this two-pronged post— James Wood’s list *The Elegant Variations*, after all, being important in an (intensely autism related) *The pattern seekers; a new theory of human invention* kind of way, even if Hemingway’s comment on F. Scott FItzgerlad “his talent was as natural as the dust on a butterfly's wings”, doesn’t apply to my own hapless writing enterprise ( there is nothing effortless about what I do, however much it is sometimes ‘Engelsian garrulous parrot speaking’ in character)—-Dickens, in *A Tale of Two Cities* says “There was yet an upper staircase, of a steeper inclination and of contracted dimensions, to be ascended, before the garret story was reached.” Well elsewhere in chapter four of *The History of Mr Polly* H. G. Wells says; ‘His attention was drawn inward by a troublesome tooth, and he sucked at it spitefully” And—-if you substitute for spitefully a more positive, friendly word— then we can perhaps (Marxian ‘use-value’ sense) profitably remind ourselves that, as, in a (completely) previous post, GypsyMoth has said; ‘Remember. It only takes one rock at a time to build a wall, and it only takes one word at a time to write a book.’ (?)
Indeed, GypsyMoth may, and not just in a nomenclature kind of sense, be more of a latter day Fitzgeraldian , talent-as-natural-as-a-butterfly, natural writer than I am, but I certainly have a— however hapless— version of the work ethic! However hopefully it is evident that I have a child-like innocence that I’ve been stubborn on maintaining up until this, my thirty-sixth year; which perhaps means that although I don’t possess Fitzgerald’s talent from a Hemingwayian standpoint, nevertheless, my imagination is of the sort to be captured again and again and again, by such book titles of Fitzgeralds as *The Diamond as big as the Ritz*. Scientists tend to deem such ideas as hopelessly quixotic and hopelessly unscientific. However the literature-loving A. Einstein was surely onto something when he said; “Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand." ?
At any rate, we have talked of GyspysMoth, literary butterflies, and embarrassing but persistent work horses like me. We have talked of diamonds, but how about pearls? For not only has it been said of Kerouac's *On the road*; “A book that manifests a style more in keeping with Walt Whitman than with F. Scott Fitzgerald “--- see my previous post replying specifically to GyspyMoth where I allude to both Walt Whitman, ‘what I shall assume, you shall assume’ (and vice versa), and the long, rich practical invitation constituting literary tradition of ‘the epistolary novel’---but furthermore in Kerouac’s greatest novel itself, there is the quixotic disposition encapsulating line; ‘I knew that soon the pearl would be handed to me. That there would be girls, visions, everything.”
Many writers have ‘sketched’ (see, for example Melville’s 1847 work *Omoo* , although Kerouac, for example— and Walt Whitman before him in impressionistic works such as *Specimen days*--- would also often do it.) Painters in the 19th and early 20th century—when the sensuous spirit of both The Belle Epoque and The Fin de siecle captured the imaginations of thousands of creative souls!---- would, obviously but importantly, spend hours at the louvre in Paris, simply sketching. Well surely reading for pleasure, and occasionally breaking off to make notes on a scene, or other excerpt, can potentially be the source for original literature, also? It is in another sense, not only often an example of art proving to become even more important than science, but in a sense, potentially often always a latest historical example of, that sometimes most esoteric seeming multifaceted business, ‘the science of art’. (wink)
(Comments, as ever, welcome. Speak soon, hopefully. )
<<<<footnotes(!) >>>>>
**1** Please know that, although I have historically been an active Trotskyist, I am now on the ‘radical centre left’, political position wise (see Perry Anderson’s, in my opinion, strangely not consciously autism related book *Spectrum: From Right to Left in the World of Ideas*); however I have never been a Stalinist. But I am interested in H. G. Wells. Hopefully that is not a contradiction too far. There is an old saying “have the courage of your curiosity’; perhaps my own curiosity is but a latest historical version, albeit of a sub kind, of Lewis Carroll’s *Alice in Wonderland*? At any rate, this raises again up into the old conceptual semantic field, so to speak, that memorable moment from *An Anthropologist on Mars*; i.e. concerning the rich inner life of autistic people, on the one hand, and their sometimes explosive desire to *communicate*, on the other; *sometimes* ‘..only a full biography will do’, And yet— fear not, readers!-- for again *pace* Dickens, but with J. D. Salinger, don’t worry, “l’ll spare you that David Copperfield kind of crap”. However the occasional, oddball autobiographical titbit I may still give to you guys, the patient readers, however much you are a, perhaps inevitably by this point, somewhat alarm-bell-triggering, ‘dwindling in cyber-demographic scope’ type of group, so to speak. (wink)