Hello everyone
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This is my first post and I am looking for advice on certain aspects of my relationship with my Aspie partner. A little intro to our couple : I am a NT woman who is in a long-term relationship with an (undiagnosed) Aspie man. We have been together for almost 5 years and just started living together in May 2016. We care for each other very much! I am currently completing my Doctor's degree in psychology and aiming to become a professional clinician. He works in information technology. He is very high functioning and from first meeting him most people would not guess he is on the spectrum. He is bright, funny, honest, loyal, and can even be very tender and affectionate at times. I am curious, energetic, and sensitive. Unlike what I have come to understand about most aspie-NT relationships, we have a very fulfilling and intimate sexual life. However, unsurprisingly, many of our problems lie in communicating and emotional intimacy. I am having trouble adjusting to certain aspects of living together, most notably his more rigid patterns and difficulty changing ineffective patterns. For example, a sort of silly one, we have a laundry hamper basket and my aspie bf consistently puts his clothes right in front of the basket instead of inside the basket. Sigh. I have asked him (politely and with a clear explanation of why it's important to me = easier since all in once place, having a clean aesthetic environment is important to me) many times to put the clothes in the basket but he simply does not do it. More seriously, he adopts some very invalidating behaviours towards me, especially when I express discontent (again, being aware of his difficulties, I try to be very clear about what I need/want). I am basically questioning whether his invalidating attitude is part of aspergers or his personality. He has on more than one occasion said the following : you're just trying to annoy me on purpose, stop creating stories in your head, you're just acting up to get attention, etc. On a few occasions he has even told me to 'shut up' '**** off' and even once threatened, while we were on a trip : 'if you don't stop acting up (i was crying about an insensitive comment he had made) I will leave you on the side of the road!" He can raise his voice sometimes without being aware...I will point it out and he will deny it. I've also experienced stonewalling, silent treatment and shutting himself in our office. I recognize that some of this is my fault as well. Of course, it takes two to tango...meaning problems usually arise due to both parties. I can be sensitive, crying and occasionally placing blame and complaining ineffectively. I have been working a lot on trying to stay calm when expressing something to him, using direct clear statements, using 'I' instead of blaming. This is often to no avail. I often feel that he sees me as the source of all problems, he doesn't recognize his behaviour as sometimes inappropriate....this is all so frustrating as he almost never apologizes. I am wondering what parts I should tolerate and what I should not. I try to be compassionate and see things from his perspective and I recognize that most comments are probably unintentionally rude. However, sometimes it hits so close to home that it seems manipulative. Even when I ask him to stop saying these things he defiantly defends his point of view. I could say a lot more but I will stop here for now. I love him very much and I know he loves me too. I want to find better ways to interact and I want to know more about Aspies' opinions on the matter. Thank you!!
So, I just read more of your post. I have experienced A LOT of what you have written. I also moved in with my bf last year. Given that we all have our own personalities and the ASD traits are only part of what makes up the qualities an Aspie has, I can't say for sure that my bf's behavior is due solely to his "condition". He is also undiagnosed.
He has odd requirements. I started to have anxiety whenever he would bring up something I did wrong (in his eyes) because I felt as though he was scrutinizing my every move. I told him so and he's backed off but this is after working at this for a good while.
Here's an example. My dog pees in the house sometimes. I got a text one day "you have a mess to clean up when you get home" with a tone that felt critical and angry. Most people I know would clean it up and then tell me after the fact, and maybe try to help me come up with a solution to the problem. I brought this to his attention during one of our "talks". Last time my dog peed, my bf cleaned it up and told me after the fact. Then we problem-solved to figure out how to stop it from happening.
He called me a "f'ing a'hole" once. I matter-of-factly told him we don't speak to each other that way. He hasn't done it since. It had to do with me being "naive" because I believe in global warming. (don't even get me started. LOL)
He once told me to "get the eff up" (using the full word) when I fell during skiing. I was speechless. I later realized this inappropriate way to express his frustration was related to the ASD because when I confronted him about it after, his reaction was so unlike what a typical person would say/do. I cant even explain it in words.
He still sometimes uses the eff word when angry (he likes it in general). If it's semi-directed at me, i tell him it's not appropriate. He is doing it less and less.
He has a hard time giving compliments and has inadvertently offended me. It was my birthday weekend. He took me to a place on the lake, ordered wine, and later told me his ideal body type was someone with big boobs and a flat stomach and asked if I could work on getting my stomach flatter. It makes me LOL now but I sobbed for hours after that.
Once I asked him if he was attracted to me and he looked at me like i was from another planet "that's a dumb question. I wouldn't be with you if I wasn't". And then I asked him if he thought I was pretty. Again, was like "duh". He said incredulously as if he couldn't comprehend why i was asking him, "you're beautiful". I've come to realize that he isn't verbally complimentary and I rely on his shows of affection, doing things for me, catching him "checking me out", to experience the feeling he does love me and cares.
I've "diagnosed" him and in a moment, after he had gotten fired for insulting someone without realizing it, I brought up the subject. He was defensive at first. Then he agreed. It's been baby steps in terms of him accepting this. The last incident he had at work he commented "my effed up brain wiring." Now I can talk to him about things using that difference between us without blaming him. It's just our brains work differently.
Usually when my BF has one of his "moments" it's because he's close to having a meltdown but there's a thin line. You can't allow abusive behavior even though it isn't intended to be abusive because it wears you down.
Don't give up hope, though. It takes a TON of work and most of it will be on your part because you are the one who has a more flexible mind and communication skills.
These three books helped tremendously:
ASPERGER'S SYNDROME AND LONG TERM RELATIONSHIPS and TROUBLESHOOTING RELATIONSHIPS ON THE AUTISTIC SPECTRUM by Ashley Standford.
A FIELD GUIDE TO EARTHLINGS: AN AUTISTIC/ASPERGER VIEW OF NEUROTYPICAL BEHAVIOR by Ian Ford. This is an odd book and not exactly enjoyable to read BUT it will give you an insight into how NTs perceive the world, like how we think but take for granted.
Dr. Tony Attwood says that those on the spectrum oftentimes choose the type of partner who has excellent social/interpersonal skills. You and your bf are a mirror image of me and mine. Mine is in IT and I'm a social worker!
I know it can be lonely and hard because even after we understand the inappropriate behaviors are related to the condition, we can't share with friends or families because they JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND. If you ever need an ear, feel free to contact me!