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Microsoft flight simulator 2024 set up

grommet

grommet

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This game is very hard to learn, it is like real flying. These are the controls I have gotten and the desk. I still need to change the desk. I removed a crosspiece so I could get in better with my chair but I get hung up on the perimeter back section still so I will cut that out too so I can roll into and back out of this easier. Very hard game to learn.
 
On flight sims I always made a point of mitigating the technological realism. Otherwise I would have always crashed! My bad...:p

But yes- the more realistic it gets, the more complex it becomes.

But try to avoid reporting a UFO to the tower. They don't like that sort of thang. ;)
 
Judge said:
On flight sims I always made a point of mitigating the technological realism. Otherwise I would have always crashed! My bad...:p

But yes- the more realistic it gets, the more complex it becomes.

But try to avoid reporting a UFO to the tower. They don't like that sort of thang. ;)
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It is so hard. It will be easier if and when I can figure out the mapping of the controls. It is not working for me now. I have no brakes. I only managed to map a switch to the parking brake and have to use that to slow on the runway on landing. Not good. Also I cannot change the camera view from in the cockpit to outside the plane unless I use the mouse and the control panel. My friend does it easily with the Backspace button. Not working for me.

Making the game work is the hard part. The flying part I think will be okay and it is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. I cannot describe well enough the light. Flying in the afternoon the evening comes on and everything grows dimmer and the cockpit lights start getting brighter and easier to see until it is night outside and just warm light inside.

It has so many options. The real-time weather was turned on and as I was about to take off I was sitting in fog. I looked out my window and it was foggy here.

I wish so much I had a tech friend who could help me. Very hard by myself.

Oh, I am going to connect iPads for the PFD (Primary Flight Display) and MFD (Mutli-Function Display). they appear onscreen in the game but I cannot touch and use them. With the iPads I am supposed to be able to touch and interact with those controls I see. That is what ChatGPT says, which has been terribly wrong about so much.
 
grommet said:
That is very exciting to me. Can you help me find a manual? I do not know about them. I have MSFS 2024 Aviator Edition, it has every feature. Is there a manual?
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The good old days. When both applications and operating systems had manuals that were sometimes inches thick. I loved being able to refer to them on a book stand right next to my monitor.

I'm still grateful that my 2018 model car came with an actual manual about two inches thick. I keep it in the glove compartment and still occasionally use it, given all the computerization the car has, and all the ways to alter settings.

Nowadays it seems most documentation can only be found online. Purely a cost-cutting consideration. :(
 
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Judge said:
The good old days. When both applications and operating systems had manuals that were sometimes inches thick. I loved being able to refer to them on a book stand right next to my monitor.

Now it seems most documentation can only be found online.

Purely a cost-cutting consideration. :(
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My Honeycomb throttle quadrant and yoke came with no instructions at all, no manual in the box or a suggestion for a link to any.

MSFS is the most complicated thing I have done. There seems like there might not be an end to the details. My friend who bought the game for me and is learning it with me, was a pilot. He keeps finding more and more you can do in it. Very subtle things that real pilots do. It gave me a warning on one night time flight to turn on the Pitot tube heaters. A game would not do that I think, this really is a simulator. If anyone does not know and wants to, the Pitot tubes on planes tell you how fast you are traveling. If they ice up you could crash without that information. There was a famous crash in the news years ago, very sad. They said that is what happened.
 
Frankly I never had the patience to actually learn flight dynamics. I just wanted to fly to chase down other aircraft as in the arcade games.

Of course even those games became closer to being simulations, but I always had the option of limiting all those flight dynamics....even down to damage done by enemy aircraft.
 
Judge said:
Frankly I never had the patience to actually learn flight dynamics. I just wanted to fly to chase down other aircraft as in the arcade games.

Of course even those games became closer to being simulations, but I always had the option of limiting all those flight dynamics....even down to damage done by enemy aircraft.
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I miss my friend and us doing this together feels really nice. My favorite thing is seeing all the beautiful details, the trees and paths and snow patches in the mountains. The shadows as the sun moves. So much to learn.
 
So, tell me:

Has it been working right? The sim?

I dont actually have it yet, I basically put buying it aside for a bit after it had a very rough launch (if you didnt see that, basically it was HORRIBLY buggy right after launching). Like seriously I'd been all excited about this for like 4 months, particularly as my arm problems have been mostly absent, but that initial release happened, and... yeah.

If it seems to be working now though, I might go ahead and give it a go. If I can somehow squeeze more space out of this PC. Heck if I know how I'll do that.

So yeah, have you noticed any issues while running the thing? If so, what are you seeing? Glitches, crashes, weird framerate issues, anything like that? Just trying to determine if now is a good time to finally try it (trying to figure this out through watching Youtube footage doesnt help, it turns out). It's a pricey game after all and I'm well aware I'll have a lot of setup to do. I know my PC can take it though.



Also heyyyyyyyyy, you bought the same yoke I have.

Though I dont have the same throttle unit, I've got a Logitech one. Not quite as good. But upgrading that aint happening any way until I have a working sim here.

Granted I also have to deal with the hard drive here, always out of space. Though, last time I said that I then found 100 GB on it somehow, so...
 
Microsoft flight simulators are not video games in any way.

Cessna has validated the MS version of their sim as accurate enough to train on for actual flight.

My family has been involved with general aviation for decades now, my first experiences with it at age 12.

We now own two aircraft, one a 1941 Taylorcraft BC-12D and the other one being a homebuilt by Curtis Pitts.

At the age of 16, I was given my Jeppesen flight school manuals to study for my written test.
Life and a lack of available funding prevented me from gaining my private ticket.

Having said all that, I am a very capable pilot with a vast knowledge of weather and more often than not became the pilot in command.

Later on in life, I got a copy of MS Flight Sim that was based in WWII combat.
There were any options of fighter planes available and I flew them all.

The real wakeup call for how accurate the sims were was when I turned the realism up to 100%.

The North Americam P-51 was my preferred airframe.It was accurate to the point where even upon shutdown, you could hear the magneto impulse couplings snap over as the engine came to rest.

The other wakeup call was that the 1550 round of 50 caliber munitions don't last long when fired out of all six barrels which with no option to use less.

No pray and spray ever because of how little munitions that were available.

The guns were set up to converge on a target about 150 yards away and the rule of thumb was to not squeeze off on an aircraft until it completely filled the peep sight.

And no, you didn't dump the entire magazine either because there were still other enemy craft in both the location and on the way to and from your mission.

There were canned missions available that were tailored after actual missions in the European theater.
One night after maintaining a 2 hour flight in formation into Germany, my objective was to strafe a ship docked in a harbor.

I located my target and began a descent to satisfy my objective.
On the way down, I neglected to note barrage ballons that were tethered near the ship.
Yeah, I crashed.
No game over/restart, dead as in they notified your family that you were KIA.

The other thing I was using the sim for was to practice navigation.

Being in Europe in the sim, I flew a lot around Paris.
One evening i decided to see if the P-51 was small enough to fly thru the base if the Eiffel Tower.
It fit and because it would, I flew it thru the base.
Later on, just to show off, I would enter the base in one direction and exit it at 90 degrees from the entry.

I thought I was an actual fighter ace for being able to handle it so well until I got a version of it that offered an Extra 300 stunt plane with aerobatics involved.

The first mission was to fly the 300 thru the base of the Eiffel tower while inverted.

So I wasn't nearly as good as I thought I was.
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I see a lack of rudder pedals on your rig, something necessary for proper coordinated turns.
Generally the throttle quatrants are mounted in the center of the panel so that both the pilot and co-pilot have access to them.

Yours is on the wrong side in favor of a location for your mouse.

That won't teach you how to fly properly since it is not how a real airplane is set up.

Not sure what is available now since I lost interest in it and never moved forward.



One of the things I was working on was a rig that involved multiple monitors so I could simply turn my head to see what was going on around me as you would in real flight.
MS never made that an option back then, and I have no further interest in working with the latest version of it.
 
Nitro said:
Microsoft flight simulators are not video games in any way.

Cessna has validated the MS version of their sim as accurate enough to train on for actual flight.

My family has been involved with general aviation for decades now, my first experiences with it at age 12.

We now own two aircraft, one a 1941 Taylorcraft BC-12D and the other one being a homebuilt by Curtis Pitts.

At the age of 16, I was given my Jeppesen flight school manuals to study for my written test.
Life and a lack of available funding prevented me from gaining my private ticket.

Having said all that, I am a very capable pilot with a vast knowledge of weather and more often than not became the pilot in command.

Later on in life, I got a copy of MS Flight Sim that was based in WWII combat.
There were any options of fighter planes available and I flew them all.

The real wakeup call for how accurate the sims were was when I turned the realism up to 100%.

The North Americam P-51 was my preferred airframe.It was accurate to the point where even upon shutdown, you could hear the magneto impulse couplings snap over as the engine came to rest.

The other wakeup call was that the 1550 round of 50 caliber munitions don't last long when fired out of all six barrels which with no option to use less.

No pray and spray ever because of how little munitions that were available.

The guns were set up to converge on a target about 150 yards away and the rule of thumb was to not squeeze off on an aircraft until it completely filled the peep sight.

And no, you didn't dump the entire magazine either because there were still other enemy craft in both the location and on the way to and from your mission.

There were canned missions available that were tailored after actual missions in the European theater.
One night after maintaining a 2 hour flight in formation into Germany, my objective was to strafe a ship docked in a harbor.

I located my target and began a descent to satisfy my objective.
On the way down, I neglected to note barrage ballons that were tethered near the ship.
Yeah, I crashed.
No game over/restart, dead as in they notified your family that you were KIA.

The other thing I was using the sim for was to practice navigation.

Being in Europe in the sim, I flew a lot around Paris.
One evening i decided to see if the P-51 was small enough to fly thru the base if the Eiffel Tower.
It fit and because it would, I flew it thru the base.
Later on, just to show off, I would enter the base in one direction and exit it at 90 degrees from the entry.

I thought I was an actual fighter ace for being able to handle it so well until I got a version of it that offered an Extra 300 stunt plane with aerobatics involved.

The first mission was to fly the 300 thru the base of the Eiffel tower while inverted.

So I wasn't nearly as good as I thought I was.
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I see a lack of rudder pedals on your rig, something necessary for proper coordinated turns.
Generally the throttle quatrants are mounted in the center of the panel so that both the pilot and co-pilot have access to them.

Yours is on the wrong side in favor of a location for your mouse.

That won't teach you how to fly properly since it is not how a real airplane is set up.

Not sure what is available now since I lost interest in it and never moved forward.



One of the things I was working on was a rig that involved multiple monitors so I could simply turn my head to see what was going on around me as you would in real flight.
MS never made that an option back then, and I have no further interest in working with the latest version of it.
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Fascinating! I love airplanes.
 
I still have programs like "European Air War", "Red Baron 3D" and "IL-2: Sturmovik" as combat flight simulators, but in no way are they intended like MSFS to be like the real deal.

However sadly the versions I have were ported for Windows 98 and XP. Though IL-2 has been ported for use on current PC platforms through Steam. But these are intended for entertainment purposes only. Not true simulations by any stretch.

Though I still have fond memories of fun playing them all. Recalling my very first one, a DOS program from EA called "Chuck Yeager's Air Combat". Primitive looking for 1991, but I had a blast with it. Especially dogfighting with Korean War era jets F-86s and MiG15s.

I also had LucasArt's "Battle of Britain" and later "Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe", both fun but primitive DOS combat flight programs.

I still have my Gravis Blackhawk Joystick, but its proprietary port fits only an ancient Soundblaster Pro audio card. And my legacy computer running offline Windows XP no longer runs because of a dead power supply. Not many power supplies out there with Molex connectors now.

Ironically had I not ventured into these kind of programs early in the PC era, I probably would never have become a computer geek, as these programs required "tweaking" to run at a time when I knew very little about software, let alone hardware. Having to master "conventional memory" requirements steered me into a very different direction when it came to computer gaming in the 80s and 90s.
 
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FayetheAspie said:
Fascinating! I love airplanes.
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One of my brothers has also tried to gain his private ticket but got shot down by a psych med he was prescribed during his youth.

It has been nearly 40 years since he was prescribed it and only took it for less than a month, but they still say no.

I'm no longer able to pass a medical due to trauma I have, so my thoughts of ever trying again are over too.

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The T-craft weighs in about the same as a Harley-Davidson motorcycle that cruises at 95 miles per hour and will achieve a top speed if 131 miles per hour.

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The Big Hickey

The Big Hickey is a very high performance airframe capable of flat and level flight at over 200 miles per hour
 
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