One thing that scared me to the core.

[Oz67]

It's important to remember that most people with mental health and neurodevelopmental disorders are more likely to be victims than being perpetrators.

One thing that scared me is I watched murder mysteries, Most Evil and those documentaries explains how delusions motivate those types of serial killers. Most of those serial killers were found Not Guilty due to Reason of Insanity (NGRI), but some of those killers where found guilty at first, after some time in prison, their delusions became worse and they were also found NGRI as well. I think it's because to be a serial killer, you need to be very intelligent and especially to cover your tracks, and another reason why some of those killers were found guilty at first, it is because they seem to know right from wrong, by the judge asking simple questions, if they understand the charges, some of those delusional killers said that they do, but were later found NGRI after being found sane. Another thing that scared me is slander case, one of them were found guilty, but I heard they they were also civility committed.

It's like an isolated link between specific types of mental health and criminal behavior. Because, there is such thing as Insanity defense, incompetence, diminished capacity.

Forensic Psychology is my favorite subject.

 

[Raggamuffin]

I was never a fan of crime stuff. How they caught them, or victim and police documentaries.

I enjoyed prison documentaries that delved into the humanity behind those who committed what seemed to be inhuman.

I guess it's just nice to see human qualities in everyone.

Ed

 

[Aspychata]

I watch true crime because as a senior citizen we become more docile - this has been proven. So I watch to remind myself that crime happens and some people get caught.

Recently in Miami, a elderly gentleman lost his wife. Went to the funeral home for arrangements and the funeral employee convinced him that she was his friend. Moved into his home, took a mortgage on the home and sold the home. She was arrested due to a nephew checking up on him. He has dementia and he is unable to get his home back. So l am extremely cautious of friendly people due to my age.

 

[Gerald Wilgus]

The thing that scares me are the sociopaths. The people hiding in plain sight who use others for personal gain. I have been exposed to enough CEOs to think that their ranks are enriched with sociopaths. Somebody like David Calhoun, responsible for the 737 Max killing 346 people, and then lying about it, scares me far more than pondering serial killers. I believe the societal destruction by people like Calhoun, or Bezos, is far more damaging than serial killers can imagine.

 

[Gerald Wilgus]

I watch true crime because as a senior citizen we become more docile - this has been proven. So I watch to remind myself that crime happens and some people get caught.

Recently in Miami, a elderly gentleman lost his wife. Went to the funeral home for arrangements and the funeral employee convinced him that she was his friend. Moved into his home, took a mortgage on the home and sold the home. She was arrested due to a nephew checking up on him. He has dementia and he is unable to get his home back. So l am extremely cautious of friendly people due to my age.

OMFG! If only a Dantean hell were real to see such lowlifes consigned to a special circle. Where is Serge Storms when you need him?

 

[Suzette]

The thing that scares me are the sociopaths. The people hiding in plain sight who use others for personal gain. I have been exposed to enough CEOs to think that their ranks are enriched with sociopaths. Somebody like David Calhoun, responsible for the 737 Max killing 346 people, and then lying about it, scares me far more than pondering serial killers. I believe the societal destruction by people like Calhoun, or Bezos, is far more damaging than serial killers can imagine.

Then there is the common sociopath like my ex. His delight was in manipulating conversations to start fights, position himself as authority and gaslighting to frame me as crazy. Like moving all the chairs in the kitchen and insisting I had done it before he got home. Or switching subjects mid conversation; like "What do you want for dinner?" Becomes "You just asked me whats on t.v. No, seriously, you did".

I probably haven't explained that well. I mean he engaged in crazy making behavior just for the sense of power and control he got out of it.

 

[Gerald Wilgus]

Then there is the common sociopath like my ex. His delight was in manipulating conversations to start fights, position himself as authority and gaslighting to frame me as crazy. Like moving all the chairs in the kitchen and insisting I had done it before he got home. Or switching subjects mid conversation; like "What do you want for dinner?" Becomes "You just asked me whats on t.v. No, seriously, you did".

I probably haven't explained that well. I mean he engaged in crazy making behavior just for the sense of power and control he got out of it.

The teddy bear for a hug for getting away from that poisonous person. Honestly, my mind cannot comprehend such a man. You are strong to value yourself, alone, rather to be in a relationship with a person like that.

 

[Atrapa Almas]

The thing that scares me are the sociopaths. The people hiding in plain sight who use others for personal gain. I have been exposed to enough CEOs to think that their ranks are enriched with sociopaths. Somebody like David Calhoun, responsible for the 737 Max killing 346 people, and then lying about it, scares me far more than pondering serial killers. I believe the societal destruction by people like Calhoun, or Bezos, is far more damaging than serial killers can imagine.

You are right Geral, there like two kind of sociopaths:

• Those who are born that way, like autists its a way brains can be wired.
• Those who are not naturally wired that way but become sociopaths.
  • Beause of some childhood trauma, repetitive abuse, or very hard circunstances that make them evolve just taking care of themselves.
  • Because of adult dinamics, like war, being forced to commint violence to be part of groups and high ranks of companys.

I observed that in my work enviroment and wanted to learn more about it, so I bought a Spanish book called: "My boos is a psycho". That matter is also covered in some books for directives, in the ethics chapters.

My personal point of view is that psychos are in the opposite part of the human spectrum than we are, with NT in the middle. Most of them are not serial killers, just lack ethics, values, fear and some other things. Those who can control their impulses are quite rationals and logic people. A kind of intelligence similar to octopuses, not socials, intelligences that just serve themselves.

There are some youtube channels of actual psychos who talk quite openly about their mental condition and how they see the world, they are worth watching to learn their patterns first hand without risks.

 

[Wolfnox]

Manipulative love interest in form of girlfriend, wife, or best friend scares me.
Especially knowing they can use my diagnosed autism against me.

 

[Suzette]

The teddy bear for a hug for getting away from that poisonous person. Honestly, my mind cannot comprehend such a man. You are strong to value yourself, alone, rather to be in a relationship with a person like that.

I think my autisim and cPTSD contributed to my not understanding how deliberate his actions were. For many years I was very confused and knew there was something wrong but I couldn't pinpoint it.
It took me 20 years to figure it out.
I would be embarassed about that but he was pretty crafty.

 

[Oz67]

Why when it comes to severe Schizophrenia, it is much easier to proof NGRI than Delusional Disorder?

I am sorry that I asked, because most serial killers with Schizophrenia are found NGRI right after committing crimes, but serial killers with Delusional Disorder are found guilty at first

 

[SusanLR]

I like watching Criminal Minds because they base the shows on such a variety of psycopathic
reasons. It's interesting to me to see how many different ways serial killers think and why.

There are a lot of psychopaths/sociopaths in the world that never do harm.
But, I live with one that @Suzette described perfectly.
He can be charming then suddenly turn meanings around to start an argument.
Even if it means lies about something I've done.
Just like the moving the chairs and then trying to make you think you did it when you know you didn't.
It's all a matter of power and control and getting his kicks off of trying to make me look like a fool
or feel anger over it all.

 

[Atrapa Almas]

I like watching Criminal Minds because they base the shows on such a variety of psycopathic
reasons. It's interesting to me to see how many different ways serial killers think and why.

There are a lot of psychopaths/sociopaths in the world that never do harm.
But, I live with one that @Suzette described perfectly.
He can be charming then suddenly turn meanings around to start an argument.
Even if it means lies about something I've done.
Just like the moving the chairs and then trying to make you think you did it when you know you didn't.
It's all a matter of power and control and getting his kicks off of trying to make me look like a fool
or feel anger over it all.

I am curious why do you life with such a person?

 

[Suzette]

I like watching Criminal Minds because they base the shows on such a variety of psycopathic
reasons. It's interesting to me to see how many different ways serial killers think and why.

There are a lot of psychopaths/sociopaths in the world that never do harm.
But, I live with one that @Suzette described perfectly.
He can be charming then suddenly turn meanings around to start an argument.
Even if it means lies about something I've done.
Just like the moving the chairs and then trying to make you think you did it when you know you didn't.
It's all a matter of power and control and getting his kicks off of trying to make me look like a fool
or feel anger over it all.

I hope that you have a choice about whether you stay with this person or not. I would rather see you go because you are a lovely person and deserve much better.
If your concerns are economic, a consultation with a lawyer might prove enlightening.

I always thought my ex husbands behavior was cyclical similar to bipolar disorder. When Infinally figured out what my husband was doing he was in the middle of one of his bizarre games. I caught myself just as I was going to get caught in it again and asked him "Why the hell do you do this stuff?" with genuine curiosity. He looked so bleak and miserable when he responded "I don't know".

 

[Atrapa Almas]

I hope that you have a choice about whether you stay with this person or not. I would rather see you go because you are a lovely person and deserve much better.
If your concerns are economic, a consultation with a lawyer might prove enlightening.

I always thought my ex husbands behavior was cyclical similar to bipolar disorder. When Infinally figured out what my husband was doing he was in the middle of one of his bizarre games. I caught myself just as I was going to get caught in it again and asked him "Why the hell do you do this stuff?" with genuine curiosity. He looked so bleak and miserable when he responded "I don't know".

I would have liked to say something as nice and human as you did.

Psychos do those horrible things because one of the things they cant feel is happines. But they can feel superiority that also feels nice. So outplaying others by lies, manipulation, being adored like gods, receiving attention and those things do activate this "superiority" circuit in their brains that feel nice. Way more severe cases will need more extreme actions on others to activate this feeling, like abuse, torture and killing. The begging of their victims is intense enougth to activate the satisfaction.

And it also happens with adrennaline, they will do risky things in order to feel something. So many of them practice risky activities. Lacking proper fear, they are horrible calculating risks too. They will try drugs, extreme sports with lack of security, will not save money, or invest poorly...

Being close to a happy person and not being able to ruin their happiness somehow is hard for them.

Interesting and dangerous creatures they are. I love to secretly ruin them at work by making people aware of them, enligthing those who do the real work, and creating situations where their lack of actual skills and lies will ve evident for all.

But I would not share my living place with them, NT is as far I can go.

Next time you spot one, dont be shy and ruin safely their lives.

 

[Suzette]

Next time you spot one, dont be shy and ruin safely their lives

I think your motive is pure. But beating someone in pain isn't going to cause less pain. You just justify being the bad guy to alleviate your pain. When does it stop?

 

[Atrapa Almas]

I think your motive is pure. But beating someone in pain isn't going to cause less pain. You just justify being the bad guy to alleviate your pain. When does it stop?

The objetive is keep your surroundings as free of psychos as possible. Having a psycho coworker fired makes the whole working space much better, and people who were under their feet will start to flourish. Of course the psycho will continue to cause pain in their next working place as your ex is probably making misserable other people life now.

I dont do it to aleviate my pain, is just an strategic move that happens to be good for everyone in the workspace (but the psycho), and to me it also feels nice. Wont lie to you.

Being nice to them will just tell them you are a great toy to play with.

 

[Suzette]

I dont do it to aleviate my pain, is just an strategic move that happens to be good for everyone in the workspace (but the psycho), and to me it also feels nice. Wont lie to you.

Being nice to them will just tell them you are a great toy to play with

See your first line? That is the same way the bad guy justfies abusing you.

You can just stand up for yourself and set boundaries. That feels good too and the bad guy will leave alone.

 

[Atrapa Almas]

See your first line? That is the same way the bad guy justfies abusing you.

You can just stand up for yourself and set boundaries. That feels good too and the bad guy will leave alone.

I guess we have different ways of dealing with them.

Note that psychos are not bad guys as wolves are not bad sheeps. But I guess this is how I see them. I dont want to convince you, just thougth the info I provided could be usefull. Probably not the case.

 

[Oz67]

The scary thing is that when I watched documentaries of people becoming serial killers, they start to have a fixed, false belief of whom they are targeting and why. I asked my mom why when people kill three or more innocent people, something about their beliefs is delusional, and she explained to me that they have personality disorders that causes delusional thinking and that no one without those types of personality disorders would want to do that to innocent people.

Those personality disorders are Antisocial Personality Disorder and Narcissistic Personality Disorder, with symptom of delusions.

Those serial killers that got NGRI were diagnosed with personality disorders, with delusions as a symptom.