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Boogs said:
I'm about 103% sure it's more of a sculpture than a working bike, I mean, how long have your arms got to be? :monkeyface:
Never mind how those little carbs feed all those cylinders with even a modicum of balance, but it just seemed to me the opposite of the minimalised Agusta Shevek posted (hence the comment I added).

(and as for it's cornering ability ...! :smile: )
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Well actually it IS possible! (though whether that engine could run 8 cylinders on one carb (not my area of expertise) is another matter, but I think it wasn't just 'glued' together, was engineered properly).
I actually saw it at a bike show/exhibition/thingy (too long ago, have little memory of what/where/when but my photo from an old camera (hence the poor lighting and composition etc)) and the knowledge I had it somewhere!

(actually - re: it actually running, I notice the fire extinguisher next to it, so maybe it does run! :laughing:)

... and so much for 103% - that'll teach me to poke my nose into areas I know little about!!
 
Boogs said:
Well actually it IS possible! (though whether that engine could run 8 cylinders on one carb (not my area of expertise) is another matter, but I think it wasn't just 'glued' together, was engineered properly).
I actually saw it at a bike show/exhibition/thingy (too long ago, have little memory of what/where/when but my photo from an old camera (hence the poor lighting and composition etc)) and the knowledge I had it somewhere!

(actually - re: it actually running, I notice the fire extinguisher next to it, so maybe it does run! :laughing:)

... and so much for 103% - that'll teach me to poke my nose into areas I know little about!!
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I used to sell engineering tools at shows. What you quickly learn is classic bike owners tend to be engineers while classic car owners are mechanics. Bikers are far, far more likely to have a lathe and milling machine. Sold quite a few of these to them over the years.

When a toolmaker (the engineer that makes tools for 'ordinary' engineers) restores a bike it will be mechanically and cosmetically perfect, better than it was when new. These are the people that often create specials. Out there are bikes that started life with a two cylinder engine but now have a four that uses original cylinders and heads with a new crankcase and crankshaft plus the other parts that need to be made.

There are also the dedicated/insane ones who will buy a frame and rebuilt it back to a whole bike. A chap I know did this with a v-twin Raleigh. Yes, the Raleigh that makes bicycles also used to make motorcycles. The one part he could not obtain was a clutch because it was also used on the Rolls-Royce of motorcycles, the Brough Superior. Anything that fits them commands a painful premium!
 
maycontainthunder said:
I used to sell engineering tools at shows. What you quickly learn is classic bike owners tend to be engineers while classic car owners are mechanics. Bikers are far, far more likely to have a lathe and milling machine. Sold quite a few of these to them over the years.

When a toolmaker (the engineer that makes tools for 'ordinary' engineers) restores a bike it will be mechanically and cosmetically perfect, better than it was when new. These are the people that often create specials. Out there are bikes that started life with a two cylinder engine but now have a four that uses original cylinders and heads with a new crankcase and crankshaft plus the other parts that need to be made.

There are also the dedicated/insane ones who will buy a frame and rebuilt it back to a whole bike. A chap I know did this with a v-twin Raleigh. Yes, the Raleigh that makes bicycles also used to make motorcycles. The one part he could not obtain was a clutch because it was also used on the Rolls-Royce of motorcycles, the Brough Superior. Anything that fits them commands a painful premium!
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I'd be inclined to agree. There seem to be hobbyists who have more money than they need, who'll buy automated machines that can produce some incredible one-off items, milling machines, laser cutters, all that (not my area, excuse tech mistakes or ignorance) mostly computer controlled. But my impression (admittedly limited experience though) is most will download a suitable file to create what they need (maybe even doing it when they could have bought the part cheaper!), but what they are not doing in most cases is designing something themselves.

Even a partial system can take a huge amount of knowledge, experience, correct tools and materials, and most of all, good design (which needs much more knowledge that the thing itself - it's what it connects to directly and indirectly? It's function, and scope of limitations, etc?). And to me it seems that this is one area of difference between someone who can follow rules (still an important skill doing that right), and someone who can make rules, in this area (engineering of all sorts and related, not social rules) - much more an art, for want of a better word?

I guess a tool maker has to design even better, since a poor tool is unlikely to make a high quality product, the tool must be designed to cope with a large range of possible needs (or at least a good tool does), and be better quality than the required quality of a product made by it. This is in some parts, maybe an intangible, hence why there's something more goes into it, which I called art?

By the way and apropos nothing ...
"Political orientation: Atheist. I don't believe a word any of them say."
Out of idle curiousity, was it deliberate to include religions as political groups, or subconscious, even not intended?
 
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