This whole thread is testimony to the fact that Aspergers are inured to seeing themselves as flawed, in the wrong, disabled, disordered, in need of reform and intervention, while NTs are very much inured to seeing themselves as whole and correct and beyond reproach.
People have a field-day analysing and dissecting how Asperger's differs from 'the mainstream', but when the tables are turned and neurotypicality is put under the microscope and objectified as a way of being, there is outrage and hurt feelings. People are "uncomfortable" and feel "bullied"; it has to be framed as a "satirical" exercise; moral tenets get invoked about turning the other cheek. No problem when the spotlight was on ASC.
Neurotypicality IS a syndrome - as much as Asperger's is. But I thought we'd moved away from pathologising it and we now refer to it as ASC - autistic spectrum condition. Further definitional clarifications: Asperger's = social and political deficits. Classic autism = social and political deficits + cognitive deficits and maybe also linguistic deficits.
This thread shows how little <being problematised, questioned, scrutinised and dissected> is part of the NT condition, whereas it's a taken-for-granted aspect of the Asperger condition. Aspergers have their shadow-side rubbed in their face on a daily basis and, these days, from birth. Some Aspergers even tell people preemptively "I have [sic] Aspergers" - to preempt any negative judgements that are about to ensue, a rationale for any offending words or behaviour, a pre-justification of the other person's negative judgement.
One of the most profound insights I read on this forum was by Suzanne: "The NUMEROUS times I have been insulted and yet, for some bizarre reason, I am supposed to let it go; but those who I insult can really attack." How do you handle humiliations?
There definitely seems to be one set of rules for Aspergers and another set for NTs. This leads me to identify another facet of the NT condition:
22. Irate and indignant at the slightest suggestion that anything in their values might be questioned, their practices found wanting, their chosen pastimes problematised. Objectifying themselves and extrapolating patterns in their behaviour is not only anathema, it's unfathomable. Anyone who turns the spotlight on NTs and tries to figure out what makes NTs tick is a BAD person, a pariah, a heretic. Aspergers are so clearly the problem, the worthy targets of pathologisation. Obviously. Duh.
Would there be accusations of "stereotyping" and "bullying" if the positive aspects of neurotypicality were written about?
e.g., can often hold the bigger picture in mind instead of getting bogged down by details; often reach out to others, bring them in and make them feel part of the group; can use their social skills to give talks, lecture, teach, promote things, sell ideas etc; often generous to charities and good causes; often feel empathy for tragic cases; a penchant for holding functions of celebration, gratitude and remembrance; their many devices for enabling others to save face and come away with their egos protected.
= With all the personal variation within each of these broad trends, from decent, upstanding and kind on the one end of the NT moral spectrum, to mean, bullying and psychopathic on the other - no less than for Aspergers.
If I were president for a day, each paragraph written about Aspergers would be counterbalanced by a paragraph written about NTs, so that we cease to see neurotypicality as a blameless backdrop against which Aspergers are the quirky anomaly. Aspergers would just be one of the differences, like male and female and everything in between, and black and white and everything in between. Where Aspergers' particular skills and abilities are acknowledged and recognised, we would have a corresponding paragraph celebrating the skills and abilities of NTs. Where Aspergers are faulted, problematised and criticised, we would have a corresponding paragraph faulting, problematising and criticising NTs.
With this regime, there wouldn't necessarily be a reduction of societal suffering and human misery, but we wouldn't be projecting so much onto others and blaming others for what is in fact a part of our own psyche. Below is an extreme case of when projecting onto others is left unchecked:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5740145/Couple-guilty-torturing-murdering-nanny.html
It’s preposterous to collectively speak of NTS as one group of humans. We are a planet of over 7 billion, and are vastly different according to geography, culture, religion, and so much more. Even ideas about autism, disability, mental illness, etc widely vary. I highly doubt “all” people you classify as “NT “ would accurately be NT. What is NT? We are all varying shades and combinations of neuro diversity. All 7 plus billion of us. So my problem is the same as if you were discussing “all white people” or “all black people,” or “all Muslims,” or “all Jews,” etc. It starts to sound culturally racist. It’s morally and scientifically incomprehensible to discuss millions of people as all one type. It’s incomprensible to discuss all people with a physical disability as the same, as it is to discuss all people with broken legs. Even all alcoholics or drug addicts are not the same! All criminals are not the same.
I hope this rant was not directed against me. I just feel that no one should be stereotyped, bullied, or criticized. NO ONE. I also do not like any kind of “Them” vs. “Us.” It serves no positive goals or outcomes. I am a part of both worlds and now feeling like I am being bullied/ stigmatized for being both aspie and NT...whatever the hell that means- and honestly, I don’t care what label it is, but I DO care if I am stereotyped, or categorized by either “side.” I am sure that is no one’s intentions here to bully or make fun of others. We all come from diverse background, abilities, and disabilities. There is no cookie cutter stamped aspie type clone.
Also, not every NT has ever bullied or harmed every person here. Believe me when I tell you that NT people get bullied, and have all sorts of difficulties growing up too. Terrible difficulties. You are not alone in this. Even NTs commit suicide, are lonely, have addictions, mental illness, divorces, and have challenging lives.
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