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What's up with UFOs these days?

One of my friends on another website said this:

"Never confuse 'possibility' with 'actuality'; the mere fact that something may be possible does not make it real."

Wise words.
 
Shevek said:
My guess is that there is a "United Planets" government that is treating us the way we treat uncontacted tribes in the Amazon . . .
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Gee, Mr. Roddenberry, you could boldly go and make a movie or TV series about that!

;)
 
Ronald Zeeman said:
That was the premise of that movie that starred tom Cruise, based on aliens trying to conquer earth.
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War of the Worlds, written by H.G. Wells in 1895.
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Independence Day (1996) was a wink to it.
 
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Outdated said:
In Car Parking Lot #51 I assume. :)

Hollywood got it wrong in all their movies where they have aliens landing in the US, it seems the great majority of space junk keeps landing in Western Australia.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07...cy-identifies-space-junk-green-head/102669472
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Space junk or even real aliens landing in central Australia might not even be noticed for decades. :) Bill Bryson wrote there was a possible testing of a nuclear device in central Australia (the Chinese?) that no one noticed.

Judge said:
Just watching some of "The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch"s unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs) seems at times to defy physics in terms of both maneuvering and velocities.
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So does the flight of honey bees and bumble bees.

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Has no one mentioned The Day the Earth Stood Still? That was about intelligent life coming to earth.
 
WhitewaterWoman said:
Space junk or even real aliens landing in central Australia might not even be noticed for decades. :) Bill Bryson wrote there was a possible testing of a nuclear device in central Australia (the Chinese?) that no one noticed.
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Japanese. The same religious cult that released Sarin gas in the Japanese subways just a few years later. Seismologists around the world recorded it but we knew nothing about it until other countries started asking us what we were up to. Australia's a big empty place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_subway_sarin_attack
 
I thought the brits tested their nuclear weapons in Australia their island was too small. They like to use use colonies for this stuff. Their was a plan in the 1950's to nuke the tar sands in Alberta to release the oil.
 
Ronald Zeeman said:
I thought the brits tested their nuclear weapons in Australia their island was too small.
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At Maralinga, yes. They conducted many tests from 1954 until the late 60s, then in the 80s we made them come back and clean up the mess.

The Japanese test was in the late 80s and was not officially sanctioned testing, we knew nothing about it until after the event. It was a radicalised terrorist group that rented a rural property in a remote area in the north of Western Australia.

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Tom said:
On a tangent, it just occurred to me that in the search for a planet to potentially colonize, one with life would be interesting but probably useless to us. Too many new mircrorganisms which we have no natural immunity for.
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The reverse happened when the Europeans began to colonize the Americas. Instead of the Europeans being struck down by diseases endemic to America, the Europeans brought their own endemic diseases with them (namely smallpox), killing many native Americans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_disease_and_epidemics
It happened in Australia, too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_in_Australia
 
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Crossbreed said:
The reverse happened when the Europeans began to colonize the Americas. Instead of the Europeans being struck down by diseases endemic to America, the Europeans brought their own endemic diseases with them (namely smallpox), killing many native Americans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_disease_and_epidemicsIt happened in Australia, too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_in_Australia
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Very true. An extraterestrial encounter would go both ways, but I think would be potentially more dangerous to the immigrant. In the case of the Americas the populations had been connected up to around 20k years earlier and fauna and flora also came from the same origins. To a new planet we would bring roughly 10k different microrganisms (bacteria, viruses and fungi) to the planet on and in our bodies, about 12k if we bring our dog (If I am going the dogs are coming ;D )and whatever happens to be hanging around the spaceship. But we might be exposed to all the different microrganisms of the new planet (Earth is estimated to have 100 million different ones).

The interesting and dangerous factor is our life forms have never been connected and have different origins. They might have developed in similiar ways if some basic biological laws or tendencies exist or they might concievably be very different. Impossible to project I suppose with a sample of 1.

It strikes me as ironic in that even if we did finally establish contact with an intelligent alien species, we likely could never be on starships together and would be limited to zoom calls.
 
If we do ever find other habitable planets I hope that we exercise much stricter biosecurity controls than we have in the past. Australia still hasn't learnt this lesson and keeps letting people bring animals in that can devastate our ecosystems. Much of our country is a very harsh environment and it doesn't take much to upset the balance.

Everyone straight away thinks of the damage we did to other races of humans with our new diseases but very few stop to think about the impact on local wildlife. New Zealand suffered far more in this regard than almost any other place on the planet.

New Zealand had no land based mammals. It was a land of birds, until European settlers came along. First off the ships was rats. Then they introduced cats to kill the rats. Then they missed hunting rabbits like they did back home so they introduced rabbits, and ferrets and stoats to hunt the rabbits. Guess what happened to the birds.

If I had my way Tom wouldn't be allowed to bring his dog unless extensive environmental impact studies showed that it would likely have little effect, and even then he wouldn't be allowed to let the dog roam free.
 
I'm pretty sure the vikings travelled via Hudsons bay into North America how they avoided infecting the natives I wonder or did they.could explain some of the tribal history here.
 
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