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Don't approach a women unless she approaches you first.

Tony Ramirez

Single Hated Wretched Aspie
V.I.P Member
Really I made this fatal mistake and I ended up twice in the hospital for suicidal intentions and nearly a third time.

Even if it's customer service, don't approach the attractive or semi attractive ones. Approach the men or old people regardless of gender.

If an attractive or what I believe is attractive, and I find many women who are not my mother's age or older attractive, then I will talk to her only if she approached me, let me sit next to her by inviting me.

This happened in a meetup I joined two weeks ago with two women, unlike the social disaster of the last ones that ended me on the hospital with a nervous breakdown.
 
Funny thing is I wrote this in a park where a nice women was being approached because she has a cute black puppy. The puppy came up to me earlier and the nice attractive woman smiled at me.

Ironically I was going to approach her to ask about her puppy but then I wrote what I just wrote and thought about when I approached that Asian women at that cooking meetup the first in a while before the walking one I got kicked out of which was good before those two guys interrupted me. Then the crap ostracized and being laughed out in the library I left even though I had recent positive experience with two women I meet at a new meetup Bible study.

I know she would have been nice. But my confidence is still low after all the ostracism from women I have been through, having body dysmorphic.
 
Really I made this fatal mistake and I ended up twice in the hospital for suicidal intentions and nearly a third time.

Even if it's customer service, don't approach the attractive or semi attractive ones. Approach the men or old people regardless of gender.

If an attractive or what I believe is attractive, and I find many women who are not my mother's age or older attractive, then I will talk to her only if she approached me, let me sit next to her by inviting me.

This happened in a meetup I joined two weeks ago with two women, unlike the social disaster of the last ones that ended me on the hospital with a nervous breakdown.
Are you thinking of harming women because of your problems?
 
Never done so. Will probably never. You've got to look at what women react to positively. Money, height and a handsome face. If you've not got at least one of these, don't bother. You risk ending up on social media and humiliated by thousands.
 
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Are you thinking of harming women because of your problems?
I don't think Tony's a psychopath or anything (not implying you're calling him a psychopath or anything, I'm just saying that deliberately harming innocent people is something only evil psychopaths would do). Tony is a harmless guy, but just misunderstood.
 
I don't think Tony's a psychopath or anything (not implying you're calling him a psychopath or anything, I'm just saying that deliberately harming innocent people is something only evil psychopaths would do). Tony is a harmless guy, but just misunderstood.
Exactly, and I remember the guys who would physically harass the girls in high school were not shy. If anything, they had dangerous levels of confidence or arrogance. My older brother was cruel to the girls yet he had all the girlfriends while I did not.

Sadly, in the crummy culture I live in, being loud and aggressive is what society considers what a “real boy” should behave like while being quiet and passive is considered “strange.”
 
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I wouldn't think twice about approaching a woman regardless of their appearance if it didn't involve socializing with romantic intent. Then admittedly it gets more complicated.

However I have had plenty of women friends who I thought were quite attractive. One of them eventually approached me with the intent of something more than friendship. It was a little weird at first, but we ended up in a relationship for more than three years.

The point being if you are friends, you are already past any point of being reticent to approach them to begin with. Something to consider, anyways.

But just making friends still requires some degree of tact without making it seem you are just hitting on them. You just have to muster up the courage to talk to them under non-threatening, non-romantic circumstances.
 
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There's obviously something missing here. I talk to people all the time - both men and women, young and old. The thing is I don't have any expectations. If they want to talk, they talk; if they don't, that's fine, no sweat. I think you may be taking your interactions way too seriously.
 
I think you may be taking your interactions way too seriously.

To me the logical thing is to subtract romantic intent from the equation. But you have to talk the part, and look the part as well. Be friendly, but not to appear nervous or awkward.

I suspect many women instantly get apprehensive with men who appear nervous or uncomfortable over a very casual social interaction. Forcing them to contemplate a possibility of "red flags" happening in real time.

You just have to push yourself socially to a point where you attain some comfort level. Start with benign social situations talking to store checkers. Something I do regularly just to keep in practice given that I otherwise have little contact with humans directly. It's a way of making those interactions where I know I have nothing to lose no matter how things go briefly.
 
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I'm a type of woman that LIKES being approached (well, when I was single that is). Through school no boys liked me in that way and I felt unattractive and rejected and just lacked confidence in myself because of it. I can't remember what it's like to be single now but it'd feel really complimentary if I went to a social event and was approached by a guy.
 

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