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Have you ever been told you had a demon?

oregano said:
There is actually a strain of "thought" in the far right Evangelical Christian strain of American Christianity that says that autism (and all other disabilities) is caused by demonic possession. Some believe that disability is the result of evil influences that a person has "voluntarily summoned".

America has some real weirdos, and Evangelical Christianity seems to be a magnet for them. If a person wants to believe that Jesus saved their lives/souls, that's their right, and I don't mind. If they want to peacefully approach random people on street corners and tell them to give their hearts to Jesus, that's ok too, although they should consider what Jesus himself said about street preaching, as recorded in the Book of Matthew.

When it gets into screaming at people incessantly that they are full of the Devil and must repent NOW or else they will spend eternity in the lake of fire, that crosses a line. Parents who constantly put the fear of Hell and demons into their kids, or even worse tell a kid that such things as being non-gender-conforming or autistic or mentally ill is possession by the Devil requiring exorcism, that is child abuse IMO.

My father was terrified of Satan for reasons I will never know, and as he sunk deeper into schizophrenia during my college years he started insisting that I was possessed, that he was possessed, that his house was possessed. That wasn't malice, that was mental illness.
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When it gets into screaming at people incessantly that they are full of the Devil and must repent NOW or else they will spend eternity in the lake of fire, that crosses a line. Parents who constantly put the fear of Hell and demons into their kids, or even worse tell a kid that such things as being non-gender-conforming or autistic or mentally ill is possession by the Devil requiring exorcism, that is child abuse IMO.
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I'm not sure if I copied the portion of the post correctly, I'm still kind of new to this website. Anyway, what denomination you're referring to? If they have a branch in my city, I'll gladly visit them to observe this mass madness.
 
I’m a moderately religious NT. I believe in the Father and the Son but not in the Holy Spirit. There are Biblical versions with the Holy Spirit being replaced with the word “wind”, which is fine with me.

Scientifically speaking, things that cannot be observed by physical means (microscopes, telescopes, particle colliders, etc.) do not exist. Therefore, I don’t believe in spirits and ghost of any kind, including the Holy Ghost.

So, if someone says that somebody is possessed by a demon or spirit to me this is a nonsensical statement, to put it mildly.

I don’t exclude telepathic influences by flesh-and-blood demons. I might have seen such influences in the Church of Scientology, but I’ll leave this topic out for now.

The statement that an autistic person is somehow influenced by Satan or any other evil entity is totally ridiculous. I have never seen anyone being accused of being the Devil’s conduit or spawn, and, before reading this thread, it never occurred to me that some people make these moronic statements. So, this thread is a total surprise to me.
 
@Outsider

It is not my Job to descide if Religion (including The Holy Spirit) is real like Christian and Muslim belief in Virgin birth of Prophet Jesus (pbuh). The Imams are God's representatives on Earth in our time.

So far i've not become Imam that you call priest i can't make statements like you did. As professional like Aspergers i need to respect Theological authoriry of Imams. Or Christian priests if you are Christian.

When Virgin Birth of Jesus is strange, and (edit: you said) Telepathic angels/demons is (edit: not) reasonable. I do believe in a Creator (Allah) One God, but of course I do not Believe in magicians even if i can't prove they are Liars. I can't prove Allah is a liar and don't exists, but i do feel He exist. And i Believe in Jesus Virgin birth inshallah.

I can't break The Chain. He whom made it only can break it.
 
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Outsider said:
When it gets into screaming at people incessantly that they are full of the Devil and must repent NOW or else they will spend eternity in the lake of fire, that crosses a line. Parents who constantly put the fear of Hell and demons into their kids, or even worse tell a kid that such things as being non-gender-conforming or autistic or mentally ill is possession by the Devil requiring exorcism, that is child abuse IMO.
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I'm not sure if I copied the portion of the post correctly, I'm still kind of new to this website. Anyway, what denomination you're referring to? If they have a branch in my city, I'll gladly visit them to observe this mass madness.
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I don't know who 'screams', the gospel is good news, God reaching/helping man, God being the source of everything wanting to have a relationship with us, the important people presidents etc of the world don't even give you the time of the day, but the most important person in the universe cares about the details of your life, super awesome imo, people who have devils are just victims of them, they don't need to be evil to suffer that. Is not like the stereotype or movies.
 
lunarious said:
@Outsider

It is not my Job to descide if Religion (including The Holy Spirit) is real like Christian and Muslim belief in Virgin birth of Prophet Jesus (pbuh). The Imams are God's representatives on Earth in our time.

So far i've not become Imam that you call priest i can't make statements like you did. As professional like Aspergers i need to respect Theological authoriry of Imams. Or Christian priests if you are Christian.

When Virgin Birth of Jesus is strange, and (edit: you said) Telepathic angels/demons is (edit: not) reasonable. I do believe in a Creator (Allah) One God, but of course I do not Believe in magicians even if i can't prove they are Liars. I can't prove Allah is a liar and don't exists, but i do feel He exist. And i Believe in Jesus Virgin birth inshallah.

I can't break The Chain. He whom made it only can break it.
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I am a former atheist because i was raised as such. I read the Bible for the first time when was 23. As the result, i formed my own opinions about Christianity and religion in general. I accept Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) and Buddhism as true ones. I also believe in reincarnation. People like me call ourselves non-traditional Christians. It is not my goal to become a priest or pastor.
I prefer to to continue doing my secular work as a data analyst.
 
Sound good @Outsider

I'm not Christian, but I live in Norway and Christians can sort/solve their internal problems in order to not engage in external problems ...
 
I read some years ago about children in Africa who have autism being singled out in communities as being a witch or being possessed by the devil. This might be happening in other countries as well.

The first time I read of this was in this article below. Recently I was led to read it again. There is a school mentioned in the article and I looked them up and they have an instagram page as well. My dad is in that country and my mum. I wanted to do something and send them something for the children and young people. The article is quite dated but these things still go on as the UN article in so much states as well. There are stories of children being seen as witches having autism and other disability today I find them too sad to post to today for the horrific conditions the children were in. My gift was sent to them I ordered it online in their country to be sent to the school directly and my mum paid in her currency and I paid my mum back. I wanted to buy them a toy around water as I love being around water, and I would like to give it to them in person. I did what I could for now instead. There are other schools out there and I am glad they exist.

There are so many people in need of support and we think we have it bad sometimes in the West and sometimes we do, but situation is great need as well.

Autism not the devil's work, say caregivers

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Was she a 'witch' or autistic? Forfar historian Shaun on 'clear link' between witch trials and disability

https://www.unicef.org/liberia/stor...ring-hope-children-accused-witchcraft-liberia
 
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Rachie said:
I read some years ago about children in Africa who have autism being singled out in communities as being a witch or being possessed by the devil. This might be happening in other countries as well.

The first time I read of this was in this article below. Recently I was led to read it again. There is a school mentioned in the article and I looked them up and they have an instagram page as well. My dad is in that country and my mum. I wanted to do something and send them something for the children and young people. The article is quite dated but these things still go on as the UN article in so much states as well. There are stories of children being seen as witches having autism and other disability today I find them too sad to post to today for the horrific conditions the children were in. My gift was sent to them I ordered it online in their country to be sent to the school directly and my mum paid in her currency and I paid my mum back. I wanted to buy them a toy around water as i love being around water, and I would like to give it to them in person. I did what I could what I could for now. There are other schools out there and I am glad they exist.

There are so many people in need of support and we think we have bad sometimes in the West and sometimes we do, but situation is need as well.

Autism not the devil's work, say caregivers

Login • Instagram

Was she a 'witch' or autistic? Forfar historian Shaun on 'clear link' between witch trials and disability

https://www.unicef.org/liberia/stor...ring-hope-children-accused-witchcraft-liberia
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Thats ignorance, i know you can't talk much about this on the internet, but in my experience, almost anyone can have an evil spirit, and it could be not their fault, people are just victims, is not like they are more evil for being victims. There is a stigma around that shouldn't exist.
 
NB79 I agree with you above. There are many good pastors, but some unfortunately fall into the category of milking it and being fake and it is ignorance as well.
 
Interesting thread, have never never been told this however did have a dream where I was told "You are the Messenger " Wondered for longest time what is the message. Watched u-tube video on China few days ago the about unusual number of deaths being covered up. In my covid thread Nov. 14, 2024, I did a calculation based on death rate in my province Ontario Canada that China would have a deathrate of 9,1% or 90 million. Their vaccine did not work ours did So the Chinese death rate could have been much higher, Was this the message?
 
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