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How many people here really have Autism?

About the only difference I see in that scenario is that an NT would probably just go up and talk to her. While the guy on the spectrum mulls it over for the next few years and does nothing.
Exactly. Really someone finally gets it.

I am picture someone with ASD and a normal person attending the same places. Eventually the normal person asks some girl out that the person with ASD wanting too. Eventually the normal person married to that girl.

Meanwhile the person with ASD seeing less singles and more people coupling up until the person with ASD leaves the place. After a few years or decade the person with ASD tries a new place. The vicious cycle repeats itself while the ASD person grows older and older.
 
My best advice be yourself and be sincere, easy for us Aspies. My main challenge before I met my wife was being an introvert.
 
Exactly. Really someone finally gets it.

I am picture someone with ASD and a normal person attending the same places. Eventually the normal person asks some girl out that the person with ASD wanting too. Eventually the normal person married to that girl.

Meanwhile the person with ASD seeing less singles and more people coupling up until the person with ASD leaves the place. After a few years or decade the person with ASD tries a new place. The vicious cycle repeats itself while the ASD person grows older and older.
I was pretty much in the same place you are when I met that girl. Where I had to overcome so many social fears.

It also helped me to realize that I had nothing to lose even when rejected. Where all we can really do is break our own cycle of fear and social paralysis and just make contact....sink or swim. It wasn't easy...but it can be done. But only if you're willing to make that initial contact.
 
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Rejection is bad for me. Really when someone rejects me I feel suicidal. So just imagine if I "just suck it up" and "talk to her". Not so easy.
 
Rejection is bad for me. Really when someone rejects me I feel suicidal. So just imagine if I "just suck it up" and "talk to her". Not so easy.

Nothing is easy for us socially speaking. That much is true. But sometimes you just have to push yourself, even if it hurts. Where you have to weigh real risk against real rewards.

Otherwise you end up in a self-destructive cycle of nothing ventured, nothing gained.
 
As I said I was going up to girls I know like that one from seconds course. But Covid and me getting aggressive in my texts ruined what might have been something.

Those rare occasions don't happen much but they always get ruined somehow.
 
Rejection is bad for me. Really when someone rejects me I feel suicidal. So just imagine if I "just suck it up" and "talk to her". Not so easy.
Suicidal when rejected is not a solid mindset, or foundation for a relationship. Even if you dated someone that sort of behaviour and intensity would likely scare them off.

Ed
 
Suicidal when rejected is not a solid mindset, or foundation for a relationship. Even if you dated someone that sort of behaviour and intensity would likely scare them off.

Ed
What does not scare off women? It's really impossible to please them.
 
You've made a really good case to never do anything about your situation. What more can anyone say?

My only question would be this: does that serve you well in this life? I think a lot of people here genuinely care about your happiness and you really disrespect them in return. Pretty soon you'll get your wish and the only people who will respond will be in total agreement with you to uphold your views of yourself and the world.

If that works for you, keep doing it.
 
Well, kindness and respect is a really good foundation for relationships of all varieties, you know?

I'm the same as you in the jellyfish department, so why would I be blaming you for that?
As @Greatshield17 said (I'm paraphrasing though, sorry!), why not find a woman who feels the same as you?
 
What does not scare off women? It's really impossible to please them.
Sounds like you had a good friendship going with the one you'd mentioned. Was it you who cut her off when she said she wasn't looking to date? Having friends is a good thing and the more time you spend with them, the more chance to meet other people too.

Ed
 
Sounds like you had a good friendship going with the one you'd mentioned. Was it you who cut her off when she said she wasn't looking to date? Having friends is a good thing and the more time you spend with them, the more chance to meet other people too.

Ed
No I wanted to be friends with her but she just knew it was romantic and then she avoided me.
 
I think myself and others still advocate work on your own happiness and self-worth first. Because I think otherwise you'll push some away, and potentially attract the wrong sort of woman into your life that might make your mental health struggles worse.

Good luck to you though, you'll get there. Just remind yourself that your beliefs are always open to change. Just because you believe it to be, doesn't make it so. Simply opening yourself up to the possibility your beliefs and values might not be correct is humbling, yet allows scope for other possibilities. That in of itself can make seemingly impossible situations seem more manageable.

There's always another way to be found.

Ed
 
I think a lot of people here genuinely care about your happiness and you really disrespect them in return. Pretty soon you'll get your wish and the only people who will respond will be in total agreement with you to uphold your views of yourself and the world.

Well put.

You may not believe it, @Tony Ramirez , but this bit here is the truth. I sincerely doubt that anyone here actually dislikes you. But some are definitely getting tired of the toxicity you constantly show and your refusal to even consider listening.

You know what I am getting sick of your mouth. You always blame me for anything relationship. You have to reply putting me down every freaking time I post an new post here. Every time. This is why I won't pay for VIP as I am strongly considering leaving this toxic place.

Who the hell keeps marking your rant to me as Winner.

And I'm quite tired of your toxicity and refusal to accept ANY responsibility for things that you do. I mean really, did it ever occur to you that there might be a REASON I keep popping up?

Nobody is putting you down here, and honestly, I cant remember anyone ever having done so on this forum. Oh, some have gotten FRUSTRATED at you, yes, certainly including myself, but there's a big, big difference between the two. There's also a big difference between that and "giving a harsh truth". You see it as "putting down" because again, you cant accept that you might be at fault for something. Even here, you'd rather blame me as an easy target than even CONSIDER you might be at fault.

Helping someone doesnt mean sugarcoating every bloody little thing to make them feel like a happy little bunny because they're getting told exactly what they want to hear despite nothing being accomplished. Helping someone means telling them what they *NEED* to hear.

The reason it's usually me over and over again is because I'm generally the one spiky enough to really do it without any sugarcoating. But also because I'm the stubborn one that generally never gives up (even when, logically, I probably should), whereas I'm already aware that there are others who have indeed tired of interacting with you, and so wont make those tougher posts (or respond whatsoever).

But it's not just that though. I use this approach because it's what worked on me, all those years ago. I was able to overcome my main problem back then because I finally stepped back and accepted that there was a problem, and said "you know what, screw that... I'm fixing this", and then actually did so. I was able to do that because people on my life did what I'm doing now: they refused to sugarcoat things and told me the harsh things that I *needed* to hear, instead of just repeating what I *wanted* to hear. And it worked, and so much improved. THAT is what I want to see for you, and why I keep posting. I dont dislike you, I dont hate you, and as others on this very forum can likely attest, I sure aint a bully of any sort. What I *want* is to see you succeed.

You may not believe any of that, but it remains true regardless.

If you keep acting like you do though, well... it's as Silhouette says: Eventually the only ones who will interact (here or elsewhere) are the ones who will merely state whatever it takes to calm you down, and no true advice will ever be given, because why would it? Many here want to see you succeed, believe it or not, but with each of these posts of yours, nerves fray just a bit more...
 
Y'all have heard my tale that I called her to share a ride to a trail maintenance project and I displayed my debonaire qualities by picking ticks off her legs at the time i was keeping the car running with a cracked distributor rotor.

I'd fall in love with you, too if you picked ticks off my legs and kept the car running.
 
I can't remember a time where I actually initiated a conversation with a woman. All of the approaches were by women. I'm not a sparkling conversationlist by any stretch of the imagination, except when I've been drinking. Even then, I'm a babbling mess, but was told "you can be very funny".

If you can approach them, that's great. If you can't, then I'm sure someone will find you. Putting too much pressure on yourself isn't going to help accomplish anything.
 
I can't remember a time where I actually initiated a conversation with a woman. All of the approaches were by women. I'm not a sparkling conversationlist by any stretch of the imagination, except when I've been drinking. Even then, I'm a babbling mess, but was told "you can be very funny".

If you can approach them, that's great. If you can't, then I'm sure someone will find you. Putting too much pressure on yourself isn't going to help accomplish anything.
i've only been drunk a few times in my life, the women loved it apparently I can be real funny and charming when drunk.
 
Having friends is a good thing and the more time you spend with them, the more chance to meet other people too.
Exactly. That is why I keep mentioning to Tony that he cannot treat couples as useless. Being friends with a married couple and they gave me the push I needed to change myself to eventually date and meet my spouse.
 

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