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I can't let go of wanting a girlfriend

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I remember some things you mentioned about your mother and it sounded a lot like she is over-protective. Moms have a tendency to look at their kids like they are 12, no matter how old their are. They fed us and wiped our butts so I can understand that. My mother sometimes still say things like "be careful when you leave, the stairs are slippery from the snow". I'm 40, I know how to walk down stairs. :) It's little funny.

But it's not funny if it goes too far and she controls your life. It's not healthy. She will probably always look at you as her little kid and that's pretty normal for moms I think, but I think you need to stand more on your own feet and stand up for yourself. In a friendly way, no need to argue with her about it, just do what you need to do, you don't have to ask her or get her permission. And if she complains, just laugh it off and remind her you're 30.

My mom is also really controlling, not only in an overprotective way. Kind of like Markness's mom, actually... she also suffers from a personality disorder...

Becoming financially independent and getting away from my mom was the only thing that helped 100% reliably. I understand that you might not be able to do this right now @Markness , but every day taking a small step in that direction might help. I have mentioned to you that I would be happy to help you with job searching.

I also had to learn this the hard way, but every day you should be making some progress towards your long-term goals. Doesn't matter how small, or how "insignificant" it might seem to other people, as long as it matters to you. Do something that will make you feel good and like you're headed in the right direction.
Wouldn't it feel good to tell yourself "I accomplished something today?"
It could be something as small as "I did a Google search for jobs in my area" or "I wrote a few paragraphs of a short story" or "I engaged in an interest/hobby for more than 30 minutes."
You already know that I'm happy to help, and I hope you know that others here will be too.
 
I remember some things you mentioned about your mother and it sounded a lot like she is over-protective. Moms have a tendency to look at their kids like they are 8, no matter how old they are. They fed us and wiped our butts so I can understand that. But it's not good if it goes too far and she controls your life. It's not healthy. She will probably always look at you as her little kid and that's pretty normal for moms I think, but I think you need to stand more on your own feet.

It will be better for you mom too in the long run, she needs to stop worrying about her little boy and let it sink in that he's a grown man now. She doesn't have to worry about him all the time. I know this is not easy for you to change, but I think it's important that she doesn't control your life. I think she's just trying to help or protect you, but it can be too much sometimes, that's not good for anyone.
In the past Markness has mentioned that his mother controls part of his finances. For a man of 34 to allow that says a lot. That he is not seeking legal emancipation is alarming and something no independent woman will tolerate in a relationship. In the past I have asked him to see a lawyer about that, and of course such practical life skills he refuses.
 
Gerald, I think your emotions and ego are clouding your judgment at times, sorry. There is a reason why a huge percentage of Autistics are not employed, independent, or in relationships. It's not because they are lazy, dumb, not deserving, not wanting, not listening, and so forth. And for those with moderate to severe executive functioning and rigid mindset issues, many things cannot possibly even be attempted to be changed without severe distress, much less changed, without causing some worsening of things, as their makeup is such that say see things differently or don't have those tolerances, certain skills, mindsets, patience, etc..

I'm glad you and other Autistics that achieved were able to succeed educationally and occupationally, and in having many varied interests and abilities, a partner who is very independent, too, which all amazes me. But, we are not you. But, for every one of you who did such and overcame some traumas and functional issues, there is at least one more of us who will have a way harder time getting even basic things done, thinking clearly and being independent, and in doing the things in ways that many could, with regards to pace, timing, frequency, precision and so forth. My wife is one of those persons. She is not able to do many things. She is not a defective person because of that.

And the parents and spouses of these affected persons are not necessarily against Markness and their loved ones being independent, so we can't assume that, as I am unsure there of the circumstances to make some such severe judgment. It's possible, yes, but it's also possible the mother sees the same things we are seeing: someone unable to see positives and change their mindset to either do small steps, the important steps, in the right order, or to see the importance of that/them, if not be able to handle that. If she is protecting him until he is more ready, and doing the best she can there, then fine, but if she could have done more to prepare him, to lead in that independent direction, if he was capable, then that is her being negligent and selfish.

But, none of us know Markness' capabilities. We can support him, give constructive advice, and even directly want to help him like Luca's nice offer, and I'd do the similar for him, if there was some acceptance on his part there and appreciation for that, with regards to finding him a place to be or getting him benefits where he could break from and feel more independent living away from his mother. I just am unsure if Markness wants that now, fears being on his alone now and feels able to risk handling all those things by himself. If he'd like to try, like I did, I'd glad to directly help. It was not easy for me at first, for the fitst six months or so, but it was the best decision I made.

But, some of us do not have more stress tolerances as I, Gerald and others. Again, my wife is one of them. She lacks proper planning, judgment, prioritization skills, too. Her severe ADHD, GAD and PTSD from the past makes the smallest things impossible. Many things cannot be changed or much because of her very poor executive functioning. At times it's better to accept than push. It's better to appreciate than judge. Many can struggle severely to fit in, with deteriorating health when society pressures them to be someone else, or to do things in certain ways or that they could not do. Not all persons have that ability to snap out of it or do small steps, if their wiring is more inflexible.

It's not easy to change one with any lifelong poor self esteem and executive function issues, for those with more difficulties there.

So, I am sorry Gerald, but if after all the attempts persons made to help Markness not much seems changed, perhaps it's because we have to tackle things in different ways, and not have black and white thinking there but to empathize more or individualize advice there tailored to him. Not have him doing my detailed self-help, step-by-step approach that worked for me, as that stuff never worked for my wife as we are different. She needed to be mostly herself, and I saw the good in her. And critiques won't work for most of us either and especially if it seems to make things worse which it seems here.

There is someone out there for everyone. There are tons in relationships with poor self esteem, some current or static negative mentality or severer issue, or executive function difficulties. Markness seems like a decent person to me, so I think there is someone out there for him, too, just as I never gave up as well. Yes, I focused on improving myself to attract more and to initiate more, but my gf then, wife now, just could only stay herself, and she just wanted a chance to find someone too. I gave her that chance. She is happy I can do much for her and we do stuff together. I have to believe a woman is as kind as I will give Markness a chance, then let him show that good side more.
 
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In the past Markness has mentioned that his mother controls part of his finances. For a man of 34 to allow that says a lot. That he is not seeking legal emancipation is alarming and something no independent woman will tolerate in a relationship. In the past I have asked him to see a lawyer about that, and of course such practical life skills he refuses.
Gerald, it really feels like you need to disentangle your own ego and judgments from Markness‘s well-being. He has every right to not take advice that is given to him, and this should not feel like an affront on you. If you are getting too frustrated from all of this to offer supportive and empathetic advice, just don’t get involved. Markness is not a project for us to work on. he is a human being who expresses his feelings on a regular basis, and I continue to find your posts here very harsh and unfriendly and absolutely not useful to someone who is suffering the way that he feels he is.
 
I feel the same way. I am 42, and everyone around me has partnered up. Even the ones that seemed to “take a long time“ are in relationships now. They do make it look easy. But, it has not been for me.
this. I’m almost 19 (not 42 yet, got a long time to go on that), and I’ve never really understood the concepts of what a romantic relationship is/should be. My basic understanding of it goes that it’s not like in the sims (see meme below).
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That’s where I am at!

Me too...having "been there" for a very, very long time.

Though I always try to keep perspective in that life itself is seldom any kind of "linear" process when it comes to successes and failures. Especially socially speaking. But then you never know what might be just beyond one's horizon as well. Life can be dynamic!
 
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I find it hard to offer any advice when there is only one viewpoint being presented- Markness himself. There's no input here from his mom or other relations to him, so I do not know what his capabilities actually are. What I am worried about is when Markness's mother is no longer around.
 
Gerald, it really feels like you need to disentangle your own ego and judgments from Markness‘s well-being. He has every right to not take advice that is given to him, and this should not feel like an affront on you. If you are getting too frustrated from all of this to offer supportive and empathetic advice, just don’t get involved. Markness is not a project for us to work on. he is a human being who expresses his feelings on a regular basis, and I continue to find your posts here very harsh and unfriendly and absolutely not useful to someone who is suffering the way that he feels he is.
You are right. I am at max frustration, starting with my BIL who is delusional about being gang stalked. Like Markness he blames his experiences on everybody else but himself and refuses responsibility for his thoughts and feelings. My BIL also suffers from confirmation bias, never remembering the positive and perseverating on the negative.
 
Gerald, I think your emotions and ego are clouding your judgment at times, sorry. There is a reason why a huge percentage of Autistics are not employed, independent, or in relationships. It's not because they are lazy, dumb, not deserving, not wanting, not listening, and so forth. And for those with moderate to severe executive functioning and rigid mindset issues, many things cannot possibly even be attempted to be changed without severe distress, much less changed, without causing some worsening of things, as their makeup is such that say see things differently or don't have those tolerances, certain skills, mindsets, patience, etc..

I'm glad you and other Autistics that achieved were able to succeed educationally and occupationally, and in having many varied interests and abilities, a partner who is very independent, too, which all amazes me. But, we are not you. But, for every one of you who did such and overcame some traumas and functional issues, there is at least one more of us who will have a way harder time getting even basic things done, thinking clearly and being independent, and in doing the things in ways that many could, with regards to pace, timing, frequency, precision and so forth. My wife is one of those persons. She is not able to do many things. She is not a defective person because of that.

And the parents and spouses of these affected persons are not necessarily against Markness and their loved ones being independent, so I can't assume that, as I am unsure there of the circumstances to make some such severe judgment. It's possible, yes, but it's also possible the mother sees the same things we are seeing: someone unable to change their mindset to either do small steps, the important steps, in the right order, or to see the importance of that/them, if not be able to handle that. If she is protecting him until he is more ready, and doing the best she can there, then fine, but if she could have done more to prepare him, to lead in that independent direction, if he was capable, then that is selfish.

But, none of us know Markness' capabilities. We can support him, give constructive advice, and even directly want to help him like Luca's nice offer, and I'd do the similar for him, if there was some acceptance on his part there and appreciation for that, with regards to finding him a place to be or getting him benefits where he could break from and feel more independent living away from his mother. I just am unsure if Markness wants that now, fears being on his alone now and feels able to risk handling all those things by himself. If he'd like to try, like I did, I'd glad to directly help. It was not easy for me at first, for the fitst six months or so, but it was the best decision I made.

But, some of us do not have more stress tolerances as I, Gerald and others. Again, my wife is one of them. She lacks proper planning, judgment, prioritization skills, too. Her severe ADHD, GAD and PTSD from the past makes the smallest things impossible. Many things cannot be changed or much because of her very poor executive functioning. At times it's better to accept than push. It's better to appreciate than judge. Many can struggle severely to fit in, with deteriorating health when society pressures them to be someone else, or to do things in certain ways or that they could not do. Not all persons have that ability to snap out of it or do small steps, if their wiring is more inflexible.

It's not easy to change one with any lifelong poor self esteem and executive function issues, for those with more difficulties there.

So, I am sorry Gerald, but if after all the attempts persons made to help Markness not much seems changed, perhaps it's because we have to tackle things in different ways, and not have black and white thinking there but to empathize more or individualize advice there tailored to him. Not have him doing my detailed self-help, step-by-step approach that worked for me, as that stuff never worked for my wife as we are different. She needed to be mostly herself, and I saw the good in her. And critiques won't work for most of us either and especially if it seems to make things worse which it seems here.

There is someone out there for everyone. There are tons in relationships with poor self esteem, some current or static negative mentality or severer issue, or executive function difficulties. Markness seems like a decent person to me, so I think there is someone out there for him, too, just as I never gave up as well. Yes, I focused on improving myself to attract more and to initiate more, but my gf then, wife now, just could only stay herself, and she just wanted a chance to find someone too. I gave her that chance. She is happy I can do much for her and we do stuff together. I have to believe a woman is as kind as I will give Markness a chance, then let him show that good side more.

This was a beautiful post, @1ForAll.
 
This may not be a good time to offer advice, then.

It would be wise not to conflate your brother-in-law with Markness.
There are no new ways to sin, and when I see persistent patterns of negative thought giving others the power to determine your feelings . . .
 
There are commonalities in negative thought patterns when one lacks agency.
Sometimes there are, but this discounts the inevitable uniqueness of each persons’ experience through life. Although the commonalities may exist, everybody’s capacity to understand them and make change are different. In addition, the lack of agency can occur for myriad reasons.
 
You need to keep a complaints journal. You can say whatever you want because only you are reading it unless you want to share some of it with your therapist. I have been doing it since November and it's great to let things out and yes, I do complain a lot in the journal about my family and relationships. I also write positive things too.

Also, I have been doing yoga and it's been helping my mood and making me lose weight. It does not mean you have to try it, but you can try something new and don't think if I keep going, I am going to get a girlfriend. I am at the point now where I am not even seeking a relationship. If it happens it happens. I been talking to this woman I meet at the new Thursday group, but I am just being friendly to her. If not, then there are things I can write to myself about or talk to my friends.

I also suffer from two major phobias, one I developed in my teens and the other because of Covid rules. But I am not letting it stop me from trying to enjoy life.
 
Thanks @Rodafina and @Mr. Stevens. Also, @Stuttermabolur and others I agree there. I try to be open minded and see all positions, regardless if I experienced such myself or not or relate in ways, and regardless of my personal beliefs and any biases or preferences. I just wanted to say I appreciated your empathy shown towards Markness and your perspectives too, as it gave me desires then to post my feelings there.
 
You need to keep a complaints journal. You can say whatever you want because only you are reading it unless you want to share some of it with your therapist. I have been doing it since November and it's great to let things out and yes, I do complain a lot in the journal about my family and relationships. I also write positive things too.

Also, I have been doing yoga and it's been helping my mood and making me lose weight. It does not mean you have to try it, but you can try something new and don't think if I keep going, I am going to get a girlfriend. I am at the point now where I am not even seeking a relationship. If it happens it happens. I been talking to this woman I meet at the new Thursday group, but I am just being friendly to her. If not, then there are things I can write to myself about or talk to my friends.

I also suffer from two major phobias, one I developed in my teens and the other because of Covid rules. But I am not letting it stop me from trying to enjoy life.
Way to go, Tony! I see a new person blossoming. That you are enjoying life and not struggling for a relationship is sorta like where I was when a relationship found me. I like that you are trying new things without fear. I never got into yoga but like Tai chi and wish there was a group here doing it.
 
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