The present thoughts on global warming,facts or fiction?

[Nitro]

You are right about electric cars not being very green at this time and it is because of batteries. Electric cars are a lot better option when powered by hydrogen fuel cells. You get hydrogen from water, which we have oceans of. The only exhaust is water. In this format, they have much better range than battery powered electric cars. Of course at this time the problem is the production of hydrogen. The way that it is produced now uses huge amounts of fossil fuels, so in the big picture, nothing is really gained over fossil fuel burning cars. Hydrogen can also be produced thru electrolysis, which uses electricity. If this electricity is produced thru hydro, solar or wind power, you are back to being green again. There is progress in the production of hydrogen thru electrolysis. I think in the future there will be hydro-electric plants built to produce hydrogen from the water that is powering the plant. I know that fossil fuels will burnt to produce the materials to build such a plant, but you have to start somewhere.

I guess now might be a time to dig out my electric or alternative fueled vehicle rant that pretty much covers all bases on their issues. Y'all might get to meet my fun and educational alter ego Mr.Badwrench pretty soon

 

[AsheSkyler]

I guess now might be a time to dig out my electric or alternative fueled vehicle rant that pretty much covers all bases on their issues. Y'all might get to meet my fun and educational alter ego Mr.Badwrench pretty soon

I misread that as "Mr. Bandwidth" and my reaction was "goodness, that IS going to be lengthy! "

 

[Nitro]

I misread that as "Mr. Bandwidth" and my reaction was "goodness, that IS going to be lengthy! "

The rant is actually quite lengthy but very educational for those who think they have the ultimate solution to "fixing" the environment.

 

[Tom]

I'm looking to invest in some beachfront property. In upstate New York.

 

[Judge]

I guess now might be a time to dig out my electric or alternative fueled vehicle rant that pretty much covers all bases on their issues. Y'all might get to meet my fun and educational alter ego Mr.Badwrench pretty soon

Don't worry. The internal combustion engine ain't going away any time soon.

BTW, Reuters just posted that crude oil is below $40 a barrel at the moment. Not to mention Tesla is down 3%. "Sunday driving" may make a comeback for a while. Maybe even "Sunday flying".

Thank China- and Saudi Arabia for that. Unless of course you invested in oil or emerging economies.

 

[AsheSkyler]

The rant is actually quite lengthy but very educational for those who think they have the ultimate solution to "fixing" the environment.

Mine is pretty short. "The only absolute in the universe is that there are no absolutes."

 

[Nitro]

Mine is pretty short. "The only absolute in the universe is that there are no absolutes."

Mine's a special interest...Do you honestly think you could get me to stop talking about it?

 

[metalminx24]

I wouldn't claim to have the 'ultimate solution'. But I do think people who are in complete denial that humans and their trappings have had/continue to have negative impacts on the environment are clearly residing under (luxuriously appointed) rocks.

 

[Nitro]

I wouldn't claim to have the 'ultimate solution'. But I do think people who are in complete denial that humans and their trappings have had/continue to have negative impacts on the environment are clearly residing under (luxuriously appointed) rocks.

I am very thrifty,always looking for efficiency and better designs. I lost my electric water heater last spring after it sprung a leak but had been researching replacements. I chose a natural gas instant on unit that is tankless with a flow sensor that starts the ignition sequence when you open a faucet. My electric bill lowered by $30 a month and the gas bill only went up $10 a month by not storing heated water when not in use.

It works well enough that I trust one to supply heated water for a floor based plastic tubing heating system with a thermostatically controlled circulating pump for my mancave project.

 

[Maelstrom]

Does anyone read the news the top dogs of global warming got caught red handed with their grubby little fingers in the cookie jar, just before the Helsinky? conference in Denmark. Their email accounts were hacked and put online for everyone to see, they clearly referred to a systemic 10% upward bump being put by them selves on all weather temprature records. And then God thought it was funny to snow them all in in Denmark for two weeks so they couldn't get home at all.

Government Chicken littles keep saying: we need more money or the sky will fall and we all will die.

Hawkings said: we need more money for scientists or the evil space aliens will kill us all.

 

[NothingToSeeHere]

Maelstrom I'm really happy to get my first 'creative' karma, but somehow I get the feeling you're making fun of me

 

[Maelstrom]

"NothingToSeeHere, post: 247437, member: 11596"]Maelstrom I'm really happy to get my first 'creative' karma, but somehow I get the feeling you're making fun of me

I'm sorry you feel that way, I will remove it.

And my previous post is for Nitro not you, I know better that address you guy's directly, but since you went out of your way to address me, you are owed a polite post back on the subject, hopefully you don't find scientific facts too offensive.

But facts are facts I have been watch the fear funding parade since the late seventies. First it was we all will die in a super winter if the Government doesn't get a bigger budget, then all the frogs and forests were dying of acid rain (it turned out the frog thing was just a parasite), then the ozone hole was going to eat us all (until some village idiot proved with his fridge it was actually just created by winter).

Now carbon is evil? even tho it is foundation of all life and used by every living thing on the planet. Any scientist should know carbon qualifies as a fertilizer for all plants, trees, and planktons that feed the whole food chain in the ocean. Even a grade school child could see that increased growth of plants, trees, and plankton will consume excess carbon in the form of CO2. Why is it bad for forests to grow faster, and more plankton to feed the fishes and whales ? I thought we loved trees and whales why are we spending millions of dollars to find ways to starve them?

And now a environmental scientist wants to have the Government pay $$$ to spray hundreds of thousands of tons of sulfuric acid? into the stratosphere to remove CO2 , I guess acid rain is a good thing now now?

Hawkings wants to start scaring everyone to death the we are going to be over run by hostile space aliens, I'm sure as usual lots of $$$$$ will help the government fix it.

I hear the Super winter thing is being dusted off again, along with maybe the magnetic pole thing ...that one is espeacially Ironic as God may plan to flip the earth and cook it for a bit...does that count?

I'm sure you don't think I could possibly be right on any of this because I'm not a scientist, and scientists are like priests, I'm sure they never would make stuff up to Fatten their Grant Budgets.

My best wishes to you I'm sure you are very nice ...my above comments aren't aimed at you, rather at a nameless group of people in the government who seem to like to grease the pig a little for more $$$.

 

[AsheSkyler]

Hrm, hostile aliens. Another joke! (For I seem to be an endless supply of them. )
"Yeah, I believe there are aliens and that they're possibly much more advanced. But I don't assume they're automatically hostile. I mean, I've got two goldfish in my room. I don't wake up every morning thinking, 'man, I gotta kill those guys'."

I am a firm believer in the existence of scare tactics and wildly exaggerated or hidden facts. My best example is staph back when I was watching the news. Played up as this new, improved, super infection sweeping the nation. I guess there might have been a new strain of it, but what they failed to mention is that staph is pretty dang old. I know a lot of the things in the Bible are disputed, but even they had records of the nuisances of boils and boils are a strain of staph. Quite a few accounts from the middle ages too. Some of the technical terms for a boil is "furuncle" and "carbuncle" which fills me with all sorts of giggles trying to pronounce it.

 

[NothingToSeeHere]

I'm sorry you feel that way, I will remove it.

And my previous post is for Nitro not you, I know better that address you guy's directly, but since you went out of your way to address me, you are owed a polite post back on the subject, hopefully you don't find scientific facts too offensive.
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My best wishes to you I'm sure you are very nice ...my above comments aren't aimed at you, rather at a nameless group of people in the government who seem to like to grease the pig a little for more $$$.

No need to remove it, I was kidding! I'm not at all creative in reality, so I really was happy. I just found it funny to get my first 'creative' karma when I was writing about stuff that I have been writing about in detail in my MSc thesis, along with an addition from a friends PhD thesis, things that I've never thought to consider 'creative' before. It's amusing to have boring research, computer models and endless mind numbing hours of data gathering and statistical analysis put in the same category as things like lovely works of art (judging by the paint brush).

I didn't think your previous post was directed at me, in fact I hadn't even read it, sorry I would never find scientific facts offensive, I've chosen to devote my career to them after all

 

[Nitro]

Anything can be had for a price on either side of a fence

 

[Maelstrom]

That reminds me of a documentary I saw several years ago! It was exploring polarity, magnetism, and the ozone holes. Archeologists digging in one big hole noticed that the magnetism of the rocks was weird. In the process of studying it, one guy let a computer simulation run all night either intentionally or by accident, and when he came in the next morning the poles had switched so north was south and south was north. More tests confirmed the rocks showing similar magnetic pole movements. They also checked ozone holes and found many of them to be in a magnetically neutral zone, so they theorized that magnetism is also a cause of ozone holes and not just funky gases.

Whether or not it's true, I dunno. I just like collecting peoples' theories. Makes for good story and creative writing ideas.

Hi AsheSkyler , maybe God accidently flipped the magnetic pole when his 6 giant Zero Mass Tugs moved earth away from a orbit near Venus, so the steam in the atmosphere could cool and condense out of the air to make the oceans we have now.

GEN:7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse "sky"."

Mael rests his case, (Sky, and how would a primitive people know planets existed where there was no separation between clouds and ocean? And people say you can't prove the bible is real, has anyone tried?)

 

[AsheSkyler]

Hi AsheSkyler , maybe God accidently flipped the magnetic pole when his 6 giant Zero Mass Tugs moved earth away from a orbit near Venus, so the steam in the atmosphere could cool and condense out of the air to make the oceans we have now.

GEN:7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse "sky"."

Mael rests his case, (Sky, and how would a primitive people know planets existed where there was no separation between clouds and ocean? And people say you can't prove the bible is real, has anyone tried?)

People have tried with varying results, mostly depending on their predisposition to it. I don't worry about it too much. Can't even count on modern books being accurate, I've found quite a few with horribly wrong facts about history due to political agenda. I just take it all with a grain of salt.

 

[Maelstrom]

So it may interest you all, write after I outed the global warming guys here as basically government grant embezzlers, my Moms face book page was hacked and cloned, it said on her cloned page she just got a $80,000 thousand dollar government grant for helping poor people or something, and the hacker was kind enough to spam her page to every poor country on the planet, she was getting messages from Pakastan.

I don't if someone here from aspie land did this or one of my watching evil government friends, the timing is very suspicious. But who ever thought it was funny to hack my Moma, you made a mistake I may not have gotten my government deffence consulting contract in the US, but I still have enough leverage to hunt you with a inteligence service from a less pleasant nation. Sweet dreams.....Girrrr!

And in my personal opinion of you global warming heavies look like a bunch of white collar organized crime thugs....who bully and scare people with lies to steal tax money from us. This is the second time I've been hacked to shut me up, keep it up and I'll apply for a job a RT and really cut you up...I know where all the skeletons are.

 

[AsheSkyler]

Not me! Can't stand Facebook. I don't like to dirty myself with that website more than I just have to.

Kinda weird if it would be government who did it to her. It's not exactly a big secret that a lot of them and their experts played up the global warming thing unnecessarily to try to scare money out of people. It'd be like me going after somebody for posting that I was a biological female.

 

[Nitro]

So it may interest you all, write after I outed the global warming guys here as basically government grant embezzlers, my Moms face book page was hacked and cloned, it said on her cloned page she just got a $80,000 thousand dollar government grant for helping poor people or something, and the hacker was kind enough to spam her page to every poor country on the planet, she was getting messages from Pakastan.

I don't if someone here from aspie land did this or one of my watching evil government friends, the timing is very suspicious. But who ever thought it was funny to hack my Moma, you made a mistake I may not have gotten my government deffence consulting contract in the US, but I still have enough leverage to hunt you with a inteligence service from a less pleasant nation. Sweet dreams.....Girrrr!

And in my personal opinion of you global warming heavies look like a bunch of white collar organized crime thugs....who bully and scare people with lies to steal tax money from us. This is the second time I've been hacked to shut me up, keep it up and I'll apply for a job a RT and really cut you up...I know where all the skeletons are.

I could very easily step in here and offer my own opinion of global warning,but refuse to because there is not enough valuable research to come to a conclusion just yet. Scientific data should always be transparent unless there is something to hide
We live in a very extremely weird time where nothing is sacred. I was never able to wrap my head around the former internet and the tards who sent a boot sector virus to trash a computer either. Who gains from such antics?

Years ago,I learned how to write malware so I could better understand how to combat it,not intentionally destroy others property by knowing how. Playing wargames on social media is childish in my honest opinion and shame on Zuckerweiner and crew for allowing it to happen.

I will say it again,Facebook is evil