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Why would any women want me? Why should i bother to date?

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Well, I got a colleague at work that has got a ptiosis as well and it doesn't stop him from being ogled and invited out by females and some males. So I'd say all flaws can be worked around. For him works confidence and smart appearance(a shirt, suit trousers etc. since he's a manager). There's surely something you can do with it as well.

Most important is your attitude. You behave differently when you hate yourself and when you don't. Before you try finding a woman for yourself, take care of yourself.
 
I'm a female and if I don't shave everyday I have a beard. I take care of that because its one thing I can't stand about myself. I also have scars on various parts of me from an incurable skin condition, in addition to being overweight and wobbly (I'm sorting that one out). But I still find people that find me attractive.
And, even if my outside is seriously flawed, I'm always being told how beautiful my soul and personality is (even if most of the time I can't see it).
Through all my physical flaws and being emotionally unstable and neurotic, people still find me attractive. I still don't fathom why, but they do. I often think they must be lying.

My point is - there will be things about you you are convinced means no one will ever want you, but it could be those things that attract them - or they might look over those things entirely and see something else in you that you don't see.

nobody has ever told me that i am good looking or even decent. people always tell me that i am very ugly or even one of the most ugly guys they have seen. my sister calls me deformed, maybe i am.
 
When you focus on and list all your flaws like that it makes it hard to offer advice lol

If a girl is truly what you desire all you can do is continue to progress in self improvement.
Have you tried posture correctors or seeing a chiropractor?
Bushy eyebrows can be trimed down.Shaved, plucked or waxed.
Could get reconstructive surgery on your nose after saving up money.
Or maybe a haircut that makes it less obvious or draws attention to the hair instead of face. Could grow your hair long and wear shades often for first meetings.

If your spinal position allows you to work out could get buff at least. Some girls favor that over anything else / protector role.

i also want friends. both male, female friends.

surgery is too expansive and yes i tried all other things you say, but its not working for me.
 
How can you have a “low I.Q” When you write here so intelligently? I do not believe it, and so, perhaps all the other stuff is exaggerated in your mind also. I am not sure you are being truly realistic about yourself.

Can you find a girlfriend via online? Also, I have seen all sorts of “unattractive” and /or cognitively “low functioning” people find relationships - even marriage. So even if you do have all these issues YOU believe you have to this extreme degree, there is still hope!

Are you able to get therapy for your low self esteem? I would work on that first.

i dont write intelligently, compare my writing to other users and you will clearly see that i am very dumb.

i tried online dating for a long time, nobody was intrested in me.

hope? its 1 in 500 000 of people like me that get in relationship. with your logic i can also be a NHL/NBA player? nah not possible.

yes i have 3 therapists atm, i meet 2 of them today actually. its not working for me so far.
 
It seems to me that you find some gratification
in negating any suggestions made by other people.

Like you are enjoying *proving* people wrong.
 
While nobody can change their genetic features, there are ways to work on your appearance. But, at the same time, find things that are positive about you. If you have things you want to improve on, improve on them. There are ways to work on your posture and your haircut. If you're socially awkward, maybe a guide or class on social skills could help. The worst thing to do is sit back and feel bad about your flaws. We all do it from time to time, but you don't deserve to feel bad over flaws because everyone has flaws they want to work on.

i did everything to work on my appearance, its not working, i am natural ugly, i am born ugly. my sister calls me deformed, she might be right.

my posture is something i am born with and i tried all haircuts but i look ugly in all of them, i just have weird hair and headshape.

i am natural weird, nobody wants to be my friend even, not on internet and not irl either. my therapists tried to help me with social skilsl and i also read books about this subject and watch youtube videos about it etc but its not working for me.
 
Wow all the negativity totally made me make this account. Sooo... yea doesn't sound like you are the top choice for women. So you have 3 choices... 1) Not get a girlfriend and play games all day and be the totally awesome guild leader and totally pwn all the noobs that think they can get away with playing a few hours in the weekends because otherwise their girlfriends would totally break up with them... That reminds me... I need to get back into gaming... 2) Get a girlfriend with... all of the negative qualities you have. 3) Fix the negative qualities that you can and then... get a girlfriend with... all of the negative qualities you have left.

In the order listed:
Duh. Fix it.

Stop licking your lips. It dehydrates them and cause the skin to peel... which then causes red lips. Moisturize if that isn't enough (Who cares if it's gay) and protect with petroleum jelly.

How little are we talking here?

How big and deformed are we talking here? Last resort... nose job. Unless you got a thing for girls with big and deformed noses ;)

Ok so how bushy are we talking here? For a guy strong eyebrows are a + not a -. If they are grandpa eyebrows you can just trim them down a bit but be careful because eyebrows require a true master to not mess it up. Just look at the girls with the drawn on eyebrows. Don't end up like them. You have been warned.

Fix thy gait. Or register it at the ministry of funny walks. You could totally make a killing. Yes. Unfunny Monty Python reference there. I'm autistic, what did you expect?

Probably has something to do with the funny walk? Fix it and the walking would be possible to fix too.

Again. Fix it. Yes you can as an adult. There's exercises for it. Just try and see.

Eat healthier. Drink a lot of water. Stop eating junk. Chocolate, candy and that stuff makes me pimple out as well. Cleaning the skin often with sensitive cleaning agents could help. Dermatologists are a last resort.

Stop with the weird gaze then. A lot of this is just behaviour you choose to exhibit, mate. I always had a weird look in my eyes as well. Not anymore. Except when I want someone to go away.

This is cheating. You cannot use 2 negatives so closely related to inflate your list.

Bone continues to grow in adult life. It can be fixed but depending on how crooked it can be quite difficult. Be careful to not destroy your fingers since doctors are too stupid to admit such a thing can be done without surgery. I would say if the bones in your fingers are bent then they can be straightened. If the actual joint is crooked then learn to live with it.

Wear pants. Or squat. Muscle might make them look better.

Weightlifting. Same as above basicly.

Haircut can cover it up. Assuming your forehead is really too long to begin with and you are not just overreacting on literally everything.

Birthmarks can be removed. If they are in the area of beard growth you can cover them up that way. Removing them would mean they would have to be... well... very unsightly. Are they? I am not sure if you are being perfectly honest with some of these so I'm just giving the advice assuming it's really bad.

You can learn how to talk better. On the upside, girls that talk weird and are bad at talking and are like totally shy are soooooooo cute. So make sure what you are giving up before learning how to talk better! Seriously. Learning how to become better at talking is possible. Improvement is improvement. Bleah how redundant.

Voice can be improved with exercises and training.

There are these parlors filled to the brim with demonic Asian girls that love nothing more than to torture hairy guys. Visit them.

TMI bro. TMI. But yes. I'm ashamed to even admit knowing this, but yes. You can fix it. First post and already I've been tricked into being the "creepy dude that knows way too much about male genitalia". Thanks.

Tweezers! Get to work.

I don't even know what that is.

Are you fat? Hmm... Heavy weightlifting might not be a good suggestion for some of the other problems considering this is caused by factors that can't be controlled. The squatting atleast. DB Curls should still be possible for arms.

Haircut.

Eh... How big exactly?

You lucky, lucky man.

Not having friends doesn't matter as long as you are proud of it. Friends are usually made by having some hobbies in common or from school. Friends from work are a ticking time bomb. You don't sound like the kinda guy that's pursuing any hobbies (Judging from the fact that you have so much time to wallow in negativity) so finding some would probably automatically make you end up with friends. Assuming you first fix your social issues. Drooling is totes not cool.

If you were a hot stud football player with a square jaw and Dyslexia all the girls would be like "No he's not a dumb jock! He has Dyslexia!". So this is not a negative.

Just so happens that I am an expert on stupid people. I am the Jane Goodall of stupid people. Stupid people exhibit many different behaviours. Just when you think you've seen them do the dumbest thing possible, another behaviour pops up that is, while previously thought impossible, even dumber. The one behaviour I have never seen stupid people engage in, however, is referring to themselves as stupid or low IQ. Those that do realize they have low IQ (through a test they were forced to do) consider IQ tests to be a farce and as such consider IQ to be a meaningless metric.

Contacts.

Lots of cuddling dogs and cats. Face your fears head on! Cute kittens and puppies await!

You won't if you don't try, no. Have you even done an IQ test? Assuming you really have low IQ, no you won't. You don't need a lot of money if you don't spend a lot of money.

Yea... uhm... fix it. Train those muscles around your mouth or whatever. I'm assuming here that you don't have something like CP or permanently damaged nerves that prevent full control over muscles. Even if your nerves are weak (which is possibly what causes the drooling) you can strengthen control over the muscles.

Myobrace, dentist visits and good brushing/flossing. In case all else fails, whitening teeth but that shouldn't be necessary. Also avoid stuff like tea and coffee that can stain teeth.

Speech training can either fix or improve it.

Then start practicing less blinking...

Stop doing that.

Dandruff is nothing more than flaky scalp skin. It could be actually caused by shampoo or soap. Perhaps dehydration. There's also a number of skin conditions that cause it. Start eliminating possible causes (from easiest to hardest) and you should find the culprit eventually.

I sweat a lot too. There's worse things in life than being a sweaty pervert.

Sounds like sleep apnea. This is a serious health issue and you have a bigger problem than just getting girls when it comes to this. Are you fat? If so lose weight. There's various devices from very cheap and simple to frigging CPAP machines to fix such issues if you are not fat. Lose weight if you are though.

Another "2 for the price of 1". This is caused by sleep apnea. It's very dangerous and is the first thing for you to focus on fixing.

Clothes make the man. Maybe you just try out the wrong stuff. You need to fix other issues related with your appearance first, however. I would still not suggest you pick out your clothes. You need some stylish chick (or gay dude) to help you with that. And it's better to fix other parts of appearance first. Wardrobe changes can be quite expensive.

Direct neck training (don't do anything crazy) can make the neck appear more balanced. Pencil neck is most likely making your neck look so long. I would not do this until the sleep apnea thing is eliminated through weight loss. Otherwise I would not do this and you should live with the long neck because a thicker neck will make a sleep apnea worse.

Sheesh. That was a long one. As you can see, there's already a bunch that are easily fixed... in like... a week. Then there's the more difficult ones that take years. Then there's the stuff that requires surgery and the plain impossible (or maybe possible but not worth it through surgery). Even just fixing the first 2 categories that might in total require 1000-2000 bucks can improve things a lot over the next 3 years. It does require a ton of effort, though.

Eh. Girlfriends are overrated anyway. Can be nice, but don't be too depressed if the only ones you can get aren't up to your standards. If you fixate on it like it's your purpose in life then life might just pass you by. Find some hobbies that make you happy or give you some goal to reach. I mean an actual goal. Not "get girlfriend". I know that when you are in this place, these kind of words seem totally alien and don't resonate at all... but just take my word for it. Unfortunately the only way to truly fix this mindset is to get a girlfriend... and another... and another... until you're like "Ok I'm holding out for a good one now, so I can focus on important stuff because girlfriends keep getting in the way of my goals".

I think the most important goals to set in your list are those related to your health. Whether you need an expensive CPAP machine or just clean up your diet, these are things that are very important to fix ASAP.

women who are like me dont want guys like me lol. i dont even have the ability to get friends.

i cant fix myself.

yeah playing videogames and stuff seems to be my only option, but its a depressing one because it means forever alone.

thanks for your help, but i tried everything you said and its not working, thats why its hopeless for me because nobody will accept me for who i am .
 
You know what, I wouldn’t date someone who talks like this about themselves.

I could make a long list of all the negative things about my boyfriend, but guess what, people aren’t just a sum of their negative traits. It’s a package deal. You take the bad with the good, and if someone is an awesome person, you don’t even notice most of the negative things. I’m not going to lie, for example it took me two years of living together to realize that my boyfriend has incredibly stinky feet. Attraction can be powerful enough to make you not notice that.

However, if someone has a profoundly negative opinion of themselves, others will pick up on that. Keep pointing out the negatives and everyone will see them. I don’t think you’re anywhere near ready to date. First, fix your self-esteem and possible medical problems.

well i dont talk like that about myself, this is a anymous forum.

i dont have any good and my negative ones are way to many and severe.

even with great self esteem nobody would want me. i dont even have bad self-esteem i am just being realistic. saying the truth is not bad self-esteem, if i lost my arm in a accident and i say that i have no arm anymore, does that mean that i have bad self-esteem ? no .
 
Maybe you're afraid that some one might like you
and you wouldn't know how to behave under that circumstance.

You certainly have a "yes, but" answer ready for any suggestion
that you might not actually be the most unappealing individual
on the face of the earth.

i am not afraid

sure, but i think i would make top 10 most ugly in my country
 
Well, I got a colleague at work that has got a ptiosis as well and it doesn't stop him from being ogled and invited out by females and some males. So I'd say all flaws can be worked around. For him works confidence and smart appearance(a shirt, suit trousers etc. since he's a manager). There's surely something you can do with it as well.

Most important is your attitude. You behave differently when you hate yourself and when you don't. Before you try finding a woman for yourself, take care of yourself.

he go 1 flaws, i got 100+, and it does not work for me to fix these flaws i already tried
 
It seems to me that you find some gratification
in negating any suggestions made by other people.

Like you are enjoying *proving* people wrong.

no i am just saying like it is, i already tried those stuff that people suggests. and surgery is way too expansive.

well should i not give reply back ?
 
@jovanovic

This resembles the child's game of
making the grown ups look dumb.

Say "yes, but"/have an excuse for everything.

You win, by losing.
 
yep, but who likes a guy who is:

virgin
very ugly
very weird
have few friends or zero friends
bad job

I was a "virgin" until I was 40. Don't care for the concept of "virgin" though. Seems antiquated. There are women out there who would love to find a guy without much sexual experience because they don't have much either.

Ugly is in the eye of the beholder.

My husband is weird and so am I. Weird women look for weird guys.

I have only a few friends and have went very long periods in my life with zero. It's not uncommon. And a few friends is much better than a bunch of bad friends.

I don't have a job currently so a bad job seems pretty good. Before I met my husband there was a guy I almost went out with, age 41, lived with his dad and worked in a pizza place. Not only was I interested a bit, but so were a couple of women who lived much closer. Anyhoo, that was 6 years ago. He's married to a very cute, very smart woman now. Forget about bad jobs.
 
i did everything to work on my appearance, its not working, i am natural ugly, i am born ugly. my sister calls me deformed, she might be right.

my posture is something i am born with and i tried all haircuts but i look ugly in all of them, i just have weird hair and headshape.

i am natural weird, nobody wants to be my friend even, not on internet and not irl either. my therapists tried to help me with social skilsl and i also read books about this subject and watch youtube videos about it etc but its not working for me.

It's not cool for your sister to be saying hurtful things like that. You should tell her to knock it off and stand up for yourself. You don't deserve to be treated badly over what you were given. Also, do you know what your face shape is? You can search online for an image of all the face shapes, then pick the one you think you have. There are certain haircuts that work well for particular face shapes, so if you know your face shape you could find one that looks well. Also, getting in shape and gaining muscle can do wonders for your facial features, so it's worth looking into.

I'm not trying to sound like a jerk so please don't take it that way but if every single friendship you've had hasn't worked out, then the common denominator is you. You might be saying/doing something that is turning people away from wanting to be friends with you. Self-deprecation isn't a quality most people want in their friends, since it makes people feel like they have to reassure and "fix" you. On the other hand confidence, stability, assertiveness, and awareness are all qualities that can draw the right people to you.

While it is easy for a therapist/book/video to tell you what you need to do to improve your communication skills, it's going to be useless unless you learn how you can gradually apply them to real everyday life. I find that practicing with people is the best way to go and studying their reactions to you. Have you tried to practice the skills with other people? I know it can seem intimidating, but it's extremely useful.
 
women who are like me dont want guys like me lol. i dont even have the ability to get friends.

i cant fix myself.

yeah playing videogames and stuff seems to be my only option, but its a depressing one because it means forever alone.

thanks for your help, but i tried everything you said and its not working, thats why its hopeless for me because nobody will accept me for who i am .

No you didn't. Having easily fixed negatives in your list proves that. Fix the apnea at the very least, even if you are going for the "Video game pro" route.

Your problem is you want everything handed to you. Not everyone is born a 6 foot 1 athletic model with an IQ of 150. You pre-emptively refuse to change anything, even things that have nothing to do with girls but with your health and own comfort. The worse the deck is stacked against you, the harder you have to work. Giving up is not an option, because you can't shuffle the deck and try again. This is the only chance you get. I suggest you make the most of it, your happiness does not depend on finding a girlfriend and neither can a girlfriend make you happy. There's plenty of guys that are good looking that are completely alone and totally happy with their games, anime and waifus. And it doesn't even have to be games. Learn to play the Cello if that's your thing. Or go crazy studying any science you like. Become a competitive eater. Whatever floats your boat. "girlfriend" is a boring hobby, and guys who prioritize their life around a women end up regretting it sooner or later.

I'm out of this topic now.
 
true, and the reason for that is because i have no positive traits - in other peoples eyes.

i do think that i should be good enough to be loved, but with how society looks like i have to be realistic and thus i have no positive traits compared to others! a woman will never like me, its a fact, i will never get friends either. i dont live up to what society want a guy to look like.

of course woman like different guys, but what woman like a guy who has many flaws, who has little money and few friends and is really weird and a virgin? i have to many weaknesses to get liked. its not possible to love me/like me/have i crush on me.
How many have you asked?

The traits are only negative because you make them negative.your perception of society is not the perception of everyone living in it. Make your work beautiful Jovan and people will want to live in it.

Let me give you an example.

My dad had a spot of coffee on his shirt. I was the first one to notice it and told him he had a huge spot on his back. My mum saw it and said it was a spot, but not huge. My dad said there barely was a spot once he took off his shirt and saw.
Conclusion: there definitely was a spot. The significance of this spot depend on the person viewing it.


yep, but who likes a guy who is:

virgin
very ugly
very weird
have few friends or zero friends
bad job

Virgin - Great! I’m his first. I don’t have to be so insecure in bed.
Very ugly - As long as I find him attractive it’s good no one else does. Won’t want to risk ladies trying to pick up my man.
Very weird - finally someone who doesn’t make me seem as weird when I’m out.
Have very few friends - More time for me! No need to worry about him being out drinking late.
Bad job - Hey at least he has a stable job.
 
I was a "virgin" until I was 40. Don't care for the concept of "virgin" though. Seems antiquated. There are women out there who would love to find a guy without much sexual experience because they don't have much either.

Ugly is in the eye of the beholder.

My husband is weird and so am I. Weird women look for weird guys.

I have only a few friends and have went very long periods in my life with zero. It's not uncommon. And a few friends is much better than a bunch of bad friends.

I don't have a job currently so a bad job seems pretty good. Before I met my husband there was a guy I almost went out with, age 41, lived with his dad and worked in a pizza place. Not only was I interested a bit, but so were a couple of women who lived much closer. Anyhoo, that was 6 years ago. He's married to a very cute, very smart woman now. Forget about bad jobs.

virginity do matter when it is guys who are it, when a guy is virgin its in most cases because nobody wanted him, which is a bad sign for women. i dont think you would want your husband if he was a virgin, no offence.

ever heard of objective ugly ? google it .

well i am very weird, nobody wants a very weird guy, as i said, i cant even get friends.

having few friends or zero as a male is very bad, it gives off bad vibes.

women want security and stability, i can not provide that with my ****** job
 
he go 1 flaws, i got 100+, and it does not work for me to fix these flaws i already tried

Everyone has many flaws. Some are easier seen, some harder. It doesn't mean that due to them you're not worth or that you'll never get a good relationship. How many people that, as you say it, have 'less flaws' are there that don't have anyone either? You can either push despite your flaws or wallow in self-pity until they swallow you. Your choice but you getting a girl is highly probable, what with there being 7.5 billions of people out there and all.

And the guy we're talking about has many more flaws but there's not point in dwelling on it.
 
virginity do matter when it is guys who are it, when a guy is virgin its in most cases because nobody wanted him, which is a bad sign for women. i dont think you would want your husband if he was a virgin, no offence.

ever heard of objective ugly ? google it .

well i am very weird, nobody wants a very weird guy, as i said, i cant even get friends.

having few friends or zero as a male is very bad, it gives off bad vibes.

women want security and stability, i can not provide that with my ****** job

Oh please. As if being a virgin was such a terrible thing. Society teaches you that this kind of pettiness means anything but when it comes to it, the fact is that it doesn't matter at all.
 
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