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From a neurotypical's perspective

This societal idea that (1) I need to complete my education (2) establish my career and (3) then maybe consider a family is causing not only a rapid decline in the overall birthrate, but also significantly increasing the numbers of babies being born premature with and without autism and congenital anomalies.
Even if you want to have a partner, it's very hard these days if you don't enjoy dating app (lack of) culture. I don't personally like this whole being chronically online thing, but as a society we have decided it is what we collectively want. Even if you want something different, it's very hard to get any human connections. I dislike online spaces, they're too inclusive in the sense that they encourage pathological individuals to take over. There is no way to enforce rules and prosocial behaviour. There are "green islands" here and there but in general the online environment is hostile like a dubious dark street.
 
I often use the language "condition". I know it is "softer" than saying "disorder" and know that some people do not consider their autism a "disorder", per se, but use the language "difference". Medical terminology can sometimes be off-putting, when the term "disorder", in this context, means something outside "the norm" or perhaps a certain number of standard deviations off from the mean.

I believe that most of us here are predominantly ASD-1/Asperger's variants. Some are ASD-2 variants with good communication skills on the computer.

To summarize, autism is a prenatal, genetic and/or epigenetic, neurodevelopmental disorder/condition that primarily affects behaviors, socialization, and communication, but can also affect fine motor skills, as well as specific hormonal, neurotransmitter, and immune responses. It is a medical condition, that unfortunately, science is still learning about, and as a result is diagnosed by symptomatology even though there clearly is a brain anatomy, physiology, and genetic component that needs to be studied more, but someday may be, in part, diagnosed by a neurologist and geneticist. Intelligence, per se, has little to do with autism, as some may have genius level, normal, or below normal IQs, and some may have asymmetrical intelligences, such as your brother, that may be "gifted" in a specific area.

Prenatal meaning it starts early in fetal development, as the primary areas that it effects include the thalamus, hypothalamus, and cerebellum that develop during the first and second trimester of pregnancy, and then to the cortex, which develops later in the second and third trimester. Genetics could be directly from the sperm and egg, or epigenetic where DNA and RNA alterations occur due to the intrauterine conditions (hormonal milieu, inflammatory reactions, infections, toxins, etc.). There are cases of identical twins, one with autism, the other not. Epigenetics.

At any rate, we can dig into all sorts of things here, but some things to think about.
Just to be a pedantic autistic person; I am diagnosed with ASD2 and I have communication skills that go beyond just digitally. It took me A LOT to get here, but now, in my middle age. I have amazing communication skills. The thing is, it's pretty impossible to accurately nutshell peeps by a number. All the number indicates is the level of support needs. To be honest, now that I'm finally out of abuse dynamics, I would probably be diagnosed as a 1, but that's not what was going on when I got my diagnosis so yeah, just challenging or perhaps querying your tone when you referenced people with the 2 behind the ASD.
 
Even if you want to have a partner, it's very hard these days if you don't enjoy dating app (lack of) culture. I don't personally like this whole being chronically online thing, but as a society we have decided it is what we collectively want. Even if you want something different, it's very hard to get any human connections. I dislike online spaces, they're too inclusive in the sense that they encourage pathological individuals to take over. There is no way to enforce rules and prosocial behaviour. There are "green islands" here and there but in general the online environment is hostile like a dubious dark street.
Back in the day, there was no such thing as the internet. We were essentially forced to interact in person. I think the intent was altruistic, that is better human connection, but in fact, it has severely handicapped us all in terms of our interpersonal skills. It backfired and now we, as a society, are all the worse for it. I also agree it has given voice to the toxic, neurotic, narcissists, psychopathics, sociopathics, "trolls" and allowed people to be their worst given the "safety" behind a computer screen.
 
Just to be a pedantic autistic person; I am diagnosed with ASD2 and I have communication skills that go beyond just digitally. It took me A LOT to get here, but now, in my middle age. I have amazing communication skills. The thing is, it's pretty impossible to accurately nutshell peeps by a number. All the number indicates is the level of support needs. To be honest, now that I'm finally out of abuse dynamics, I would probably be diagnosed as a 1, but that's not what was going on when I got my diagnosis so yeah, just challenging or perhaps querying your tone when you referenced people with the 2 behind the ASD.
My brother was also diagnosed with ASD 2 although he had won several chess tournaments prior to the diagnosis. I helped him improve communication skills and he obtained Associate Degree in HVAC (heating, ventilation and air-conditioning). In Europe his degree is an equivalent of the 2-year vocational school diploma. Currently he works as an HVAC technician.
 
ASD2s can still have general giftedness or savantism, which is different.
Savantism is the product of a specific, if beneficial, brain injury.
 
Family comes first, when my older brother lost his job, unable to get re-employed and my dad passed We all got together and bought him a condo so not to leave him homeless. When he passed a few years later fortunately
we doubled our return selling the condo. So I guess we were rewarded for doing the right thing.
 
Idk which "number" I have, I was diagnosed with "Asperger's syndrome". The doctor doesn't like labels and I'm on board with that.
 
Idk which "number" I have, I was diagnosed with "Asperger's syndrome". The doctor doesn't like labels and I'm on board with that.
If you do not require a legal guardian nor a rep payee for any benefits you receive (in the US), you are effectively a 1.
 
I may well be wrong, but wasn't ASD1 the replacement for Asperger's when that was phased out as a formal diagnosis abut 10 years back?
 
I'm ASD1 I guess. I prefer severity levels because I don't like being treated like I'm disabled. It seems that having Asperger's on my medical records prevents this, as I wasn't in a priority group for the covid vaccines. Autistic people seemed to be, whether they have physical co-morbids or not. I read up why a neurological disorder like autism is a priority group and it said that it's because autistic people can catch covid because they have no understanding of social distancing, and if they get ill they wouldn't be able to seek help because they are unable to identify how they're feeling physically or emotionally.
Um excuse me but I have none of those and I wouldn't want to be assumed that I'm like that anyway. Having Asperger's written on my stupid medical records is much better because I'm usually treated like I'm able (unless I actively seek help).

I know I shared this before but it really explains my point about why severity/functioning labels need to exist.
On the left it describes what the autism spectrum is without severity levels. Everyone is treated like they're the same, the high-functioning (verbal, less severe, etc) get treated like we're disabled, while some lower-functioning may get less help because there are too many people and not enough services. The picture on the right shows more what the autism spectrum was when we had severity levels. Support as required, not just put into a group and all treated the same.

I prefer fairness over equality any day.
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I read up why a neurological disorder like autism is a priority group and it said that it's because autistic people can catch covid because they have no understanding of social distancing, and if they get ill they wouldn't be able to seek help because they are unable to identify how they're feeling physically or emotionally.
Sounds to me that's something written by someone who has little understanding of autism. Do they actually bother to explain why autistic people are unable to understand the concept of social distancing? It has little to do with socialising issues or communications, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if they understand it better than many so-called normal people.

I prefer fairness over equality any day.
This may depend on the definitions of fairness and equality.
As I understand equality, it's the concept of reducing disadvantages suffered by minorities. In other words, equality is the attempt to to be fair to all.
 
I may well be wrong, but wasn't ASD1 the replacement for Asperger's when that was phased out as a formal diagnosis abut 10 years back?
Not completely. You can see people without speech delay and / or intellectual disability getting the 2s. I don't know what it means from the other lower functioning end though. As @Crossbreed mentioned, in other cases it refers to the need of a legal representative as separate from higher needs. According to contemporary knowledge they're all the same condition, but differences in the need for support result from intellectual disability. If not for it, an autist isn't different from someone with regular sensory disabilities and who experiences anxiety. It sounds like it's legal meandring more than a reflection of facts. I don't know what it was supposed to improve and how it's supposed to be more inclusive, it just produces more unnecessary labels.

Sounds to me that's something written by someone who has little understanding of autism.
This is how it all sounds to me.

Or perhaps ASD-1 is now considered a personality disorder type of thing, if people who have this diagnosis don't have sensory issues? It seems like now everyone gets the label based on personality tests and no other symptoms and in my opinion it's bogous, especially since it became a class thing to get an autism diagnosis.
 
I read up why a neurological disorder like autism is a priority group and it said that it's because autistic people can catch covid because they have no understanding of social distancing, and if they get ill they wouldn't be able to seek help because they are unable to identify how they're feeling physically or emotionally.
Um excuse me but I have none of those and I wouldn't want to be assumed that I'm like that anyway. Having Asperger's written on my stupid medical records is much better because I'm usually treated like I'm able (unless I actively seek help).
In other words, it's about intellectual disability.
 
In other words, it's about intellectual disability.
More accurately, neurological disability (which includes intellectual disability).

Someone who is non-verbal but can understand & type in an age-appropriate fashion would be considered the former but not the latter.
 
More accurately, neurological disability (which includes intellectual disability).

Someone who is non-verbal but can understand & type in an age-appropriate fashion would be considered the former but not the latter.
Yes, that's exactly what I'm referring to. Someone on the autism spectrum may have a neurological disability, but not intellectual, because they understand concepts such as "social distance", "feeling sick" or money.
 
I went on and on here about auditory processing and being unable to speak (myself). It's the same as being deaf and has about the same impact. Intellectual disability is something different than a sensory disability, mobility issues etc. If someone is deaf, blind, uses a wheelchair etc. doesn't mean they need a guardian or a supervisor, and that they don't understand concepts crucial for independent daily living. Two different things.
 
I went on and on here about auditory processing and being unable to speak (myself). It's the same as being deaf and has about the same impact. Intellectual disability is something different than a sensory disability, mobility issues etc. If someone is deaf, blind, uses a wheelchair etc. doesn't mean they need a guardian or a supervisor, and that they don't understand concepts crucial for independent daily living. Two different things.
Severity levels take that into account.
 
Severity levels take that into account.
What do you mean by that? You have said before that based on your and your children's cases all that is taken into account is the intellectual disability and need for a guardian and/or a supervisor.
 
Someone who is non-verbal, but understands written & spoken language will probably still be designated a "1" unless there is more going on.
 

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