If you were honest with yourselves, how many of you hate having this condition?

[Jonn]

This is me. Their manipulative properganda-y go irritates me too much. It's not "news" so much as a tool for social engineering.

We are just click-bait victims, well, most of us.
"A pox on all their houses", I say.

But some of us have cultivated critical thinking skills, and can "separate the wheat from the chaff", well, usually.

If ppl weren't so gullible, these manipulators wouldn't have any power.

 

[Misty Avich]

We are just click-bait victims, well, most of us.
"A pox on all their houses", I say.

But some of us have cultivated critical thinking skills, and can "separate the wheat from the chaff", well, usually.

If ppl weren't so gullible, these manipulators wouldn't have any power.

My anxiety can make me a bit gullible, and I can sometimes lack critical thinking skills. And no, I'm not offended or anything lol, as what you said is true; many people do buy into these things.
I try to avoid the news but sometimes I do stumble on to news articles when scrolling online and it always sets my anxiety off. It's like I'm always thinking "oh if it's in the news then it must be true" and also nothing surprises me any more anyway.
At the end of 2019 I thought covid was just another scare to get the attention of the public and would just turn out to be nothing. Oh how wrong I was. So now I never know what is real and what isn't.

 

[Jonn]

I try to avoid the news but sometimes I do stumble on to news articles when scrolling online and it always sets my anxiety off. It's like I'm always thinking "oh if it's in the news then it must be true" and also nothing surprises me any more anyway.
At the end of 2019 I thought covid was just another scare to get the attention of the public and would just turn out to be nothing. Oh how wrong I was. So now I never know what is real and what isn't.

Over time, you get to know who has or hasn't credibility.
There are some media outlet, and particular ppl, that have failed the test badly, and I simply boycott them, these days.
No reason to go back to a questionable source when others have proven themselves reliable.
I am over sitting on the fence.
I don't need the splinters.

On the other hand, you find ppl with greater integrity that have been proven reliable, most of the time,at least.
I don't agree with even my best sources, from time to time, and I think it healthy.
It always amazes me how some ppl blindly believe everything some particular person says.
Groupthink is not my thing.

 

[Perpetually_confused]

I don't hate my autism, I hate the fact that it took me so long to realise and the trauma that I now have to deal with for being undiagnosed for so long especially as a female. However, I try to cope with the trauma by focusing on the benefits such as my intense hyperfocus, how easy it is for me to get into creative flow and my deep appreciation of nature and my sensitivity. Really I feel sorry for people who aren't autistic and can't experience these things. That's not to say life is easy by any means but I would not change it for being neurotypical which seems so bland to me looking from the outside, maybe it's not but it's just my impression.

 

[Misty Avich]

Another thing I hated about being diagnosed so early in life (or having it at all) was feeling singled out. When I was 9 the whole school had to have a vaccination (I don't remember what it was for now), but the day before vaccination day the school nurse phoned my mum and begged me not to let me have the vaccine because it might "make my Asperger's worse". I really don't know where they got that idea from, but it scared my mum into not letting me have the vaccine, so I had to come to school the next day being the only one who couldn't have the vaccine. My sister had it though, even though the school nurse once suspected Asperger's with her but she never got diagnosed and probably wasn't spectrumy enough to get a diagnosis. So she had it done without a threat telling her it would "make her learning difficulties worse".
And let's not forget about all the children who had Asperger's but just weren't diagnosed. Since coming to these forums I have learnt that MORE people went undiagnosed all through childhood than people who got a diagnosis early (and I'm talking about people who grew up in the 90s and 00s, like me).

Ever since then I have always been terrified of vaccines, and I think my mum freaked out because she didn't want me to turn into an autistic boy she knew who was non-verbal, still in diapers, was severely locked in his own world, never bonded with his mother, and had extreme meltdowns over thinks like loud noises and other children being near him.

 

[Jonn]

I don't hate my autism, I hate the fact that it took me so long to realise and the trauma that I now have to deal with for being undiagnosed for so long especially as a female.

I don't hate being autistic either, but have no trouble if others on the spectrum do.

This is so obvious, that it is hardly worth mentioning:

People need to get in touch with their feeling, not suppress them, or pretend they don't exist.
Talking about their issues with sympathetic/empathetic individuals can be a significant part of the healing process.
I seriously shake my head when people lack the insight into the human psyche to realise this self-evident FACT.

However, I try to cope with the trauma by focusing on the benefits such as my intense hyperfocus, how easy it is for me to get into creative flow and my deep appreciation of nature and my sensitivity. Really I feel sorry for people who aren't autistic and can't experience these things. That's not to say life is easy by any means but I would not change it for being neurotypical which seems so bland to me looking from the outside, maybe it's not but it's just my impression.

Well, my mistake was not in being autistic.
My mistake was allowing myself to be conceived.
THAT, will never happen again.

 

[Jonn]

but the day before vaccination day the school nurse phoned my mum and begged me not to let me have the vaccine because it might "make my Asperger's worse".

Never underestimate the foolishness that some people can embrace. <sigh>

 

[Xinyta]

Another thing I hated about being diagnosed so early in life (or having it at all) was feeling singled out. When I was 9 the whole school had to have a vaccination (I don't remember what it was for now), but the day before vaccination day the school nurse phoned my mum and begged me not to let me have the vaccine because it might "make my Asperger's worse".

Such unprompted notions like this, make me wonder if people have intelligence at all.

And let's not forget about all the children who had Asperger's but just weren't diagnosed. Since coming to these forums I have learnt that MORE people went undiagnosed all through childhood than people who got a diagnosis early (and I'm talking about people who grew up in the 90s and 00s, like me).

I am in that category of a undiagnosed 90s kid. Though it may of been for the best. If I did get diagnosed early. I'm sure I'd be in a psych ward or something. Since this was still a thing at that time.

Ever since then I have always been terrified of vaccines, and I think my mum freaked out because she didn't want me to turn into an autistic boy she knew who was non-verbal, still in diapers, was severely locked in his own world, never bonded with his mother, and had extreme meltdowns over thinks like loud noises and other children being near him.

I can understand that.

Though the notion it'll get worse by being inoculated by a vaccine...

 

[Misty Avich]

Such unprompted notions like this, make me wonder if people have intelligence at all.

It was a rather upsetting time for me. I just felt more different than what I really was. I felt like I had a disease or a severe allergy that I had to be protected from by avoiding vaccines or something.

I am in that category of a undiagnosed 90s kid. Though it may of been for the best. If I did get diagnosed early. I'm sure I'd be in a psych ward or something. Since this was still a thing at that time.

It often baffles me how some people on the spectrum go through childhood without being diagnosed, in a time when Asperger's was more understood. Surely it'd be like a dyslexic child going through school without anyone noticing that he can't read, in a time when dyslexia was known about and more understood. You can't go through school without coming into contact with books, just like you can't go through school without coming into contact with other children.

Maybe if I hadn't have had ADHD as well the Asperger's might have been more internalised and I might have somehow managed to go through school just being a quiet, shy student. But my behaviour problems was what drew the attention to me and it was just too obvious that I had problems, which lead to being assessed and finally diagnosed. It was no picnic for me. Nor for my parents, for that matter.

Things might have been a bit different if I was just diagnosed with ADHD instead, as it was obvious. But because back then ADHD didn't exist in girls (according to doctors and psychiatrists) they completely ignored all the obvious ADHD signs and just thought that Asperger's would do, mostly because I had a fear of the school bell.

 

[Xinyta]

@Misty Avich that is one things that still baffles me. Is how females could be 'incapable' of having ADHD. It's as baffling as the long centuries of medical and psychological professionals thinking that ASD was a form of psychosis and that females "couldn't" get that either. I get that sone if it was limited tools toward research. But there is a point where that even is a assine explanation. Likely more a sexist thing. Which is not unusual.

I personally only dodged the bullet on the ASD diagnosis thing, because of the bogus Landau Kleffner diagnosis. All because of seizures during sleep.

 

[Misty Avich]

Yes, I think if I was a school-age child now I probably would have got diagnosed with ADHD rather than Asperger's, despite being quiet in the classroom. But back in the 90s ADHD was still only known as "naughty schoolboy syndrome". I'm glad that more has been studied on ADHD and in reality there are probably more naughty schoolboys without ADHD and good little schoolgirls with ADHD.

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

I'm one of the very few people, that actually should have a fear of vaccines yet I still get vaccinated weight the risks.
got transverse myelitis from a polio vaccine 60 years ago. Fortunately recovered. Now noticed have extreme resistance to covid. We have a lot to learn about immunes systems. People with my unique immune system are extremely rare.

 

[tree]

The OP of this thread frequented this site for less than a month.

I wonder how things are going for them now.

The title premise has always seemed odd, to me.
Asking people to be honest with themselves.
That looks to me to presume that people aren't
generally honest in their thoughts.

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

The bottom line I have never regretted, being on the spectrum, It would have been nice to know earlier in life, Us Aspies are known for our honesty.

 

[Misty Avich]

The OP of this thread frequented this site for less than a month.

I wonder how things are going for them now.

The title premise has always seemed odd, to me.
Asking people to be honest with themselves.
That looks to me to presume that people aren't
generally honest in their thoughts.

Sometimes titles of threads aren't well thought out. Also maybe they saw me being condemned for my feelings on autism and thought that we should be allowed to speak up more. A lot of autistic people out there do hate their autism with a vengeance and just wish they never had it. But I respect people who have learnt to live with their autism and accept it, I wouldn't discourage such a positive mindset.
But it's how I feel. We're all individuals at the end of the day, and life circumstances and conditions can shape the way people see themselves. I absolutely loathe myself and having low self-esteem doesn't help.

Many people with cancer hate cancer but that doesn't mean they hate everyone with cancer. They just, understandably, don't want cancer. I know autism isn't like cancer but I'm talking about the emotional side of it, not what the two conditions are.

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

From being on this site, those who do not like being on the spectrum have other issues, most us level one had careers many in stem.

 

[Misty Avich]

From being on this site, those who do not like being on the spectrum have other issues, most us level one had careers many in stem.

Yes I guess you could say that.

I'm not very career-orientated and I struggle with learning new things. I'm more of a stay-at-home housewife type but unfortunately that ain't an option, I have to work.

 

[NB79]

I was rejected from a driver license test because i didn't lie about the medication i was taking
I believe i am a good driver, i have seen people horrible at the wheel that even had like 7 crashes, but they have license.

 

[NB79]

From being on this site, those who do not like being on the spectrum have other issues, most us level one had careers many in stem.

I think autism comes with 'complications' sometimes, it seem autistics are prone to suffer them.
I think i believe a 'healthy autism' can be a blessing

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

Yes I guess you could say that.

I'm not very career-orientated and I struggle with learning new things. I'm more of a stay-at-home housewife type but unfortunately that ain't an option, I have to work.

My mother was a stay at home mom this ended with us baby boomers may be it will revert back once we are gone
five more years the last of us will be retired. The inevitable shortage of young workers will drive up wages again.
My dad raised six of us on one wage as a skilled tradesman.